antix-testing /buster is breaking up

[Member fungalnet]

After the disaster I faced with sid and the advise I was given I reinstalled and used testing (the buster parallel). It had been going well but last upgrade keeps wanting to throw everything out and bring systemd in.
I tried to revert the damage (I am running sddm openbox and some lxde software) and when I started sddm manually both kbd and mouse lost function. I rebooted and I go into emergency (no tty) and if I type exit it goes into kernel panic.
So now on chroot this is what I get. If I install systemd-must-die then on the next dist-upgrade run it wants to remove it and install systemd.

apt install lxpolkit        
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  consolekit libck-connector0 libegl1-mesa libencode-locale-perl libept1.5.0 libfile-listing-perl
  libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl libhttp-cookies-perl libhttp-date-perl
  libhttp-message-perl libhttp-negotiate-perl libio-html-perl libio-socket-ssl-perl
  liblwp-mediatypes-perl liblwp-protocol-https-perl libnet-http-perl libnet-ssleay-perl libqt5qml5
  libqt5quick5 libtimedate-perl libtry-tiny-perl liburi-perl libwww-perl libwww-robotrules-perl
  libxatracker2 libxfont2 libxvmc1 lxlock man-db perl-openssl-defaults qml-module-qtquick2 x11-apps
  x11-session-utils xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable xinit xscreensaver xscreensaver-data
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libpam-systemd policykit-1 systemd systemd-sysv
Suggested packages:
  systemd-container
Recommended packages:
  libnss-systemd
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  eudev sddm systemd-must-die xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all
  xserver-xorg-input-libinput xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-radeon
  xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libpam-systemd lxpolkit policykit-1 systemd systemd-sysv
0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 17 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 14.7 kB/3466 kB of archives.
After this operation, 8164 kB disk space will be freed.

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Somewhere within lxde pkgs is where the culprit exists, but exactly where I don’t know.

# apt install lxde 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libegl1-mesa libept1.5.0 libqt5qml5 libqt5quick5 libxatracker2 libxfont2 libxvmc1 man-db
  qml-module-qtquick2 x11-apps x11-session-utils xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable xinit
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  galculator gpicview laptop-detect libpam-systemd lxappearance-obconf lxde-common lxde-core
  lxde-icon-theme lxhotkey-core lxhotkey-gtk lxinput lxpolkit lxsession lxsession-edit lxsession-logout
  openbox-lxde-session policykit-1 systemd systemd-sysv
Suggested packages:
  gimp libreoffice lxlauncher pidgin pk-update-icon xfce4-power-manager firefox-esr | firefox
  | www-browser systemd-container
Recommended packages:
  xdg-utils clipit deluge | transmission-gtk evince | pdf-viewer gnome-disk-utility smplayer | vlc
  | mplayer-gui gnome-system-tools gucharmap firefox-esr | firefox | www-browser lightdm
  | x-display-manager lxmusic | audacious menu-xdg usermode wicd | network-manager-gnome xserver-xorg
  notification-daemon lxhotkey-plugin-openbox lxhotkey-data openssh-client | ssh-client libnss-systemd
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  eudev sddm systemd-must-die xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all
  xserver-xorg-input-libinput xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-radeon
  xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  galculator gpicview laptop-detect libpam-systemd lxappearance-obconf lxde lxde-common lxde-core
  lxde-icon-theme lxhotkey-core lxhotkey-gtk lxinput lxpolkit lxsession lxsession-edit lxsession-logout
  openbox-lxde-session policykit-1 systemd systemd-sysv
0 upgraded, 20 newly installed, 17 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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anti-X - Adélie - obarun - systemd Free Space

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Wait for the new systemd-free policykit-1 debs to hit the repos.
BTW where did you get systemd-must-die from? It is not in our repos.

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

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@ anticapitalista

anticapitalista wrote:

BTW where did you get systemd-must-die from? It is not in our repos.

I wondered, where my ‘systemd-must-die’ came from. So I have checked the repos.
‘systemd-must-die’ is in the antix repo: http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/testing/pool/nosystemd/p/prevent-systemd/

$ apt show systemd-must-die
Package: systemd-must-die
Version: 1
Priority: extra
Section: nosystemd
Source: prevent-systemd
Origin: WTF
Maintainer: Wookey <wookey@debian.org>
Bugs: mailto:wtf@mirbsd.org
Installed-Size: 2.048 B
Conflicts: libpam-systemd, live-config-systemd, python-systemd, systemd, systemd-cron, systemd-gui, systemd-shim, systemd-sysv, systemd-ui
Download-Size: 1.898 B
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/sid sid/nosystemd amd64 Packages
Description: metapackage to remove systemd
This metapackage ensures that systemd is not used as the init
system for your computer. This is necessary if you prefer a
traditional init system.

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If I updated and installed it I am sure it didn’t come from debian, it wouldn’t install from cache, would it?
Not with apt install systemd-must-die

apt search systemd-must-die
Sorting... Done
Full Text Search... Done
systemd-must-die/testing,testing,now 1 all [installed]
  metapackage to remove systemd

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@ fungalnet
Find repo of installed package with ‘apt policy <package name>’
Comprehensive list of package manager commands:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta

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Yes it is in the repos, my mistake. It is not installed by default though and is not necessary.

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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It still works nevertheless

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta

@Xaver are you talking to me? 🙂

https://sysdfree.wordpress.com/222/

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I just did an update and tried dist-upgrade:

The following packages will be REMOVED:
  eudev sddm systemd-must-die xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all
  xserver-xorg-input-libinput xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-radeon
  xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  init systemd systemd-sysv

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inxi -r for sources list

Also, post the output of apt-get upgrade

• This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by anticapitalista.

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Active apt repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           121 deb https: //repo.antixlinux.com/testing/ testing main nosystemd dev
           12No active apt repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           12Active apt repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           121 deb https: //deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
           122 deb https: //security.debian.org/ buster/updates non-free contrib main

The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  consolekit libck-connector0 libegl1-mesa libencode-locale-perl libept1.5.0 libfile-listing-perl
  libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl libhttp-cookies-perl libhttp-date-perl
  libhttp-message-perl libhttp-negotiate-perl libio-html-perl libio-socket-ssl-perl
  liblwp-mediatypes-perl liblwp-protocol-https-perl libnet-http-perl libnet-ssleay-perl
  libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libqt5qml5 libqt5quick5
  libtimedate-perl libtry-tiny-perl libunique-1.0-0 liburi-perl libwww-perl libwww-robotrules-perl
  libxatracker2 libxfont2 libxvmc1 lxlock lxsession-data man-db perl-openssl-defaults
  qml-module-qtquick2 x11-apps x11-session-utils xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable xinit
  xscreensaver xscreensaver-data
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  eudev sddm systemd-must-die xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all
  xserver-xorg-input-libinput xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu xserver-xorg-video-ati
  xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-radeon
  xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  init systemd systemd-sysv
The following packages will be upgraded:
  binutils binutils-common binutils-x86-64-linux-gnu e2fslibs e2fsprogs libbinutils libcom-err2
  libcomerr2 libcups2 libext2fs2 libpng16-16 libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0
  libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libss2 libxen-4.8 libxenstore3.0 tor
18 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 17 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

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policykit-1/testing 0.105-21.0nosystemd1 amd64 [residual-config]
  framework for managing administrative policies and privileges

# apt install policykit-1 
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  consolekit libargon2-0 libck-connector0 libcryptsetup12 libencode-locale-perl libept1.5.0
  libfile-listing-perl libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl libhttp-cookies-perl
  libhttp-date-perl libhttp-message-perl libhttp-negotiate-perl libio-html-perl libio-socket-ssl-perl
  libjson-c3 liblwp-mediatypes-perl liblwp-protocol-https-perl libnet-http-perl libnet-ssleay-perl
  libtimedate-perl libtry-tiny-perl libunique-1.0-0 liburi-perl libwww-perl libwww-robotrules-perl
  lxlock lxsession-data perl-openssl-defaults xscreensaver xscreensaver-data
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  policykit-1
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0
3 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded.
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• This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by fungalnet.
• This reply was modified 4 years, 9 months ago by fungalnet.

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Thinking there might have been something I did that messed up the installation I revived an old backup, 5mos old, put it on a stick and booted. It worked fine, it was an early backup of the same installation. Thinking that if I update it and it works I can replace the messed up installation and just the software I has added over the past few months. Basically the same minimalist openbox with some lxde tools. It took a while to update, nothing weird like systemd coming in, everything seemed fine.

I reboot, kernel panick!
The only thing I added was the latest kernel on top of the 4.14 I had. I tried the other kernel just in case … same thing.

So is buster busting us? Anyone else running testing?

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Both the new kernel and the original kernel are having a kernel panic?
Any interesting clues in the kernel panic output? like cannot mount /find root file…..
Was the kernel changed on a live usb? did you use the utility to change the kernel on a live usb? I think it is live-kernel-updater
A copy of the dist-upgrade apt history might help… but being it was a clean dist-upgrade than I am doubtful of that

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No it is not a live system, it is a backup of a hard installation, the one that broke last week. Just put the image in a usb partition with its own grub etc. It booted fine and run fine, apart from the expected delay in usb action.

I think somehow the links on root for bin sbin lib were wiped out.

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