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November 29, 2018 at 1:15 pm #13763Member
Regular way to do “Debian way” upGRADe from lower to higher release:
First you would change the sources to those of a newer distro.
DO NOT USE THESE! It´s example and it´s for Debian; Anti can give you exact sourcess needed for antiX 17.
Then you would execute 4 commands: (sudo –> gives you appropriate rights (makes you temp root))
sudo apt-get update –> updates repo data bank
sudo apt-get upgrade –> makes upDATe
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade –> makes upGRADe
sudo apt-get autoremove –> removes junk
You can also chain them. You have to read the output of the Terminal to see if the last one is needed but, usualy it is.
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade sudo apt-get autoremoveDecember 4, 2018 at 4:25 am #13870Member
Then you would execute 4 commands: (sudo –> gives you appropriate rights (makes you temp root)) sudo apt-get update –> updates repo data bank sudo apt-get upgrade –> makes upDATe sudo apt-get dist-upgrade –> makes upGRADe sudo apt-get autoremove –> removes junk
well, i used all of these commands from my Antix 16 terminal but, after reboot, it did NOT update anything so it is still 16 version.
How come ?
Also i realized Antix 16 is so slow……i mean, it is slower than WINDOWS XP so maybe should i change linux version in order to get faster pc performance ? (my pc is very old)December 4, 2018 at 4:36 am #13871Forum Admin
You haven’t told us the specs. Post the output of inxi -v8 in a terminal
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.December 4, 2018 at 6:54 am #13875Member
… i used all of these commands from my Antix 16 terminal but, after reboot, it did NOT update anything so it is still 16 version.
How come ?
Simple. Like so many people out there, you mixed “upDATE” and “upGRADE”.
You are not trying to upDATE but, upGRADE from one release to another one!
Those commands DID update — if there was something to update but, what you are trying to do is not what you are doing.
Updating Photoshop 12 will update it but, it’ll still stay at 12 and not become 16.
Upgrading will bring it from 12 to 13 to 14 to 15 to 16 …
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
1. … you upDATE your current 16 release to the latest stand,
2. Change the Repositories to those of 17 so you could upGRADE (like in Example above but, you change to the sources that Anti will give you),
3. Repeat the command AFTER the Repositories got changed,
4. Then you “tiger around” and wait and pray and hope it’ll still work (since the fresh 17 install already didn’t work, NO upgrade even will be better).December 5, 2018 at 9:56 am #13907Member
So this is log of INXI -V8 from terminal:
System: Host: antix16 Kernel: 4.4.10-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 4.9.3 Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8 dm: slim Distro: antiX-16.2_386-full Berta Cáceres 15 June 2017 Machine: Type: Desktop System: FUJITSU SIEMENS product: SCENIC E v: N/A serial: YBFC287921 Chassis: type: 6 v: SCEE serial: YBFC287921 Mobo: FUJITSU SIEMENS model: D1534 v: S26361-D1534 serial: N/A BIOS: FUJITSU SIEMENS // Phoenix v: 5.00 R2.05.1534.01 date: 04/07/2004 Memory: Array-1: capacity: 2 GiB slots: 2 EC: None max module size: 1 GiB note: est. Device-1: Slot-1 size: 256 MiB speed: 266 MHz type: DDR detail: synchronous bus width: 64 bits total: 64 bits manufacturer: N/A part-no: Not Specified serial: Not Specified Device-2: Slot-1 size: 256 MiB speed: 266 MHz type: DDR detail: synchronous bus width: 64 bits total: 64 bits manufacturer: N/A part-no: Not Specified serial: Not Specified PCI Slots: Slot: 1 type: 32-bit AGP 4x AGP status: Available length: Long Slot: 2 type: 32-bit PCI PCI-1 status: Available length: Long Slot: 3 type: 32-bit PCI PCI-2 status: Available length: Long CPU: Topology: Single Core model: Intel Celeron bits: 32 type: MCP arch: Netburst Willamette rev: 9 L2 cache: 128 KiB bogomips: 5186 Speed: 2593 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 2593 Flags: acpi apic bts cid clflush cmov cx8 de dts fpu fxsr ht mca mce mmx msr mtrr pae pat pbe pebs pge pse pse36 sep ss sse sse2 tm tsc vme xtpr Graphics: Card-1: Intel 82865G Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:2572 Display: server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1280x1024~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 865G x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 1.3 Mesa 10.3.2 direct render: Yes Audio: Card-1: Intel 82801EB/ER AC97 Audio driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.5 chip ID: 8086:24d5 Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.4.10-antix.1-486-smp Network: Card-1: Intel 82547EI Gigabit Ethernet driver: e1000 v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: 4000 bus ID: 02:01.0 chip ID: 8086:1019 IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:30:05:60:d9:9d Card-2: D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122 Wireless Adapter(rev.C1) [Ralink RT2571W] type: USB driver: rt73usb bus ID: 1:2 chip ID: 07d1:3c03 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 00:22:b0:6c:a7:1e IP v4: 192.168.1.60/24 scope: global broadcast: 192.168.1.255 IP v6: fe80::222:b0ff:fe6c:a71e/64 scope: link WAN IP: 220.127.116.11 Drives: HDD Total Size: 37.25 GiB used: 3.02 GiB (8.1%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD400BB-75DEA0 size: 37.25 GiB speed: <unknown> serial: WD-WMAD17271681 rev: 3E05 scheme: MBR Floppy-1: /dev/fd0 Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: Optiarc model: DVD RW AD-7170A rev: 1.02 dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw Features: speed: 48 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running RAID: Message: No RAID data was found. Partition: ID-1: / size: 4.03 GiB used: 3.02 GiB (74.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 label: rootantiX-16 uuid: f7f8b361-d8f3-4de6-8260-d4b77dbde628 ID-2: swap-1 size: 500.0 MiB used: 312 KiB (0.1%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda4 label: swap uuid: 2695d8a9-3d0f-4665-88fa-8b3b31877a03 Unmounted: ID-1: /dev/sda1 size: 29.63 GiB fs: ntfs label: N/A uuid: EE38034638030CF1 ID-2: /dev/sda2 size: 2.91 GiB fs: ntfs label: N/A uuid: 8E34A51234A4FE79 USB: Hub: 1:1 usb: 2.0 type: Full speed (or root) hub chip ID: 1d6b:0002 Device-1: D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122 Wireless Adapter(rev.C1) [Ralink RT2571W] bus ID: 1:2 usb: 2.0 type: Vendor Specific Protocol chip ID: 07d1:3c03 Hub: 2:1 usb: 1.1 type: Full speed (or root) hub chip ID: 1d6b:0001 Hub: 3:1 usb: 1.1 type: Full speed (or root) hub chip ID: 1d6b:0001 Hub: 4:1 usb: 1.1 type: Full speed (or root) hub chip ID: 1d6b:0001 Hub: 5:1 usb: 1.1 type: Full speed (or root) hub chip ID: 1d6b:0001 Device-2: Logitech bus ID: 5:2 usb: 2.0 type: Keyboard chip ID: 046d:c52e Sensors: Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured? Repos: Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 1: deb http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/mx/antix/jessie jessie main nosystemd Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 1: deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 1: deb http://ftp.it.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free 2: deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list Processes: CPU top: 5 1: cpu: 32.1% command: firefox-esr pid: 2823 mem: 195.5 MiB (40.0%) 2: cpu: 28.7% command: inxi started by: perl pid: 4117 mem: 13.0 MiB (2.6%) 3: cpu: 26.5% command: firefox-esr pid: 3372 mem: 127.5 MiB (26.1%) 4: cpu: 17.5% command: firefox-esr pid: 2895 mem: 117.6 MiB (24.0%) 5: cpu: 14.6% command: x pid: 2096 mem: 10.7 MiB (2.1%) Memory top: 5 1: mem: 195.5 MiB (40.0%) command: firefox-esr pid: 2823 cpu: 32.1% 2: mem: 127.5 MiB (26.1%) command: firefox-esr pid: 3372 cpu: 26.5% 3: mem: 117.6 MiB (24.0%) command: firefox-esr pid: 2895 cpu: 17.5% 4: mem: 59.3 MiB (12.1%) command: firefox-esr pid: 3717 cpu: 0.5% 5: mem: 17.6 MiB (3.5%) command: roxterm pid: 2669 cpu: 0.3% Info: Processes: 140 Uptime: 9m Memory: 488.4 MiB used: 316.0 MiB (64.7%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 4.9.2 alt: 4.9 Shell: bash (sudo) v: 4.3.30 running in: sudo inxi: 3.0.10
December 5, 2018 at 1:36 pm #13912Member
- This reply was modified 5 days, 11 hours ago by rokytnji.
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
1: deb http://ftp.cc.uoc.gr/mirrors/linux/mx/antix/jessie jessie main nosystemd
That’s exactly what I wrote above.
You didn‘t change the repos to 17.
„jessie“ == Debian 8 (Basis for AntiX 16.x)
„stretch“ == Debian 9 (Basis for AntiX 17.x)December 6, 2018 at 12:48 am #13952Member
We’re talkin’ about:
If you open it, it’ll read:
# Use with Debian Stable/stretch repositories. Set as default for antiX-17. Note new repos
deb https://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/mxlinux/antix/stretch/ stretch main nosystemd
#deb https://ftp.nluug.nl/os/Linux/distr/mxlinux/antix/stretch/ stretch main nosystemd
Notice that “stretch” instead of “jessie”?
I’d recommend to stick with 16 since it’s working.
You’ll not get better or quicker OS on that HW.
Security is least problem on such machine.
Debian 8 “Jessie” is still supported.
If you still wanna risk, proceed on your own risk.
1. Make backup of your OS with Clonezilla first
2. Download my file and unpack it
3. Open Terminal and execute:
sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.d /etc/apt/sources.list.old.d
sudo mv /PATH/TO/UNPACKED/FILE/sources.list.d /etc/apt/sources.list.d
5. log out / log in
6. Open Terminal and execute:
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
7. Wait, hope and pray …
It’s very well possible that you’ll kill your System since, that’s how it all started …
8. Wait until is done, READ & MAKE NOTES of EXACT messages if some problem appear.
9. Reboot after it’s all done
10.Open Terminal and execute:
sudo apt-get autoremove
If all went well, you have almost the same what you had before your upgrade.
If you can’t start at all or your USB doesn’t work any more or … don’t bother.
That’s why you made Clonezilla system image at the beginning. Put it back and enjoy.
Note that you might still need to change the Kernel and add Pulse Audio & pavucontrol manually.
Attachments:December 6, 2018 at 8:08 pm #13977Member
Hey! Don’t give up the ship yet! I rock a Pentium 2 with slower clock speed, less memory, and the same clunky HDD as you have, and 17.2 works just fine. Might find another HDD and install on that off the Live CD, then move whatever files you wish to save off the old one, as its not the best drive in the universe. I might be doing much the same thing eventually as I am just learning the ropes of this OS, but the HDD is starting to misbehave..though its 20 years old, so can’t complain all that much, right?December 7, 2018 at 2:04 am #13980Member
There are many things one could try, it is only the question of how much one knows and how much time one is ready to invest.
In this case, knowledge might be the limiting factor as we could see on update / upgrade / sources understanding.
Possibly easiest way would be to take the HD out and put it another computer, install it there and swap the HD again but, that is also without the warranty that the same problem we started with, will not reappear.
I really do not see much sense in not leaving it as is, with 16 installed.
It works fine, is still supported, so what is the point?December 7, 2018 at 7:32 am #13994Forum Admin
Still dist-upgrading. Hard Drive came out of a broke older IBM laptop I used to run.
harry@biker:~ $ inxi -r Repos: Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 1: deb http://repo.antixlinux.com/jessie jessie main nosystemd Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 1: deb http://ftp.gr.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free 2: deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/palemoon.list 1: deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser/Debian_8.0/ / No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/siduction.list No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list harry@biker:~ $ inxi -S System: Host: biker Kernel: 4.9.83-antix.1-686-smp-pae i686 bits: 32 Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8 Distro: antiX-15-V_386-full Killah P 30 June 2015 harry@biker:~ $ inxi -M Machine: Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 2347DS2 v: ThinkPad T430 serial: <root required> Mobo: LENOVO model: 2347DS2 serial: <root required> UEFI [Legacy]: LENOVO v: G1ET41WW (1.16 ) date: 05/25/2012 harry@biker:~ $ inxi -C CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-3320M bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 3072 KiB Speed: 3060 MHz min/max: 1200/3300 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3060 2: 2987 3: 3085 4: 2055
Why one may ask?
Because. I may not be alive in 2020 for all I know?
Just toi twist your knickers on this install I got
harry@biker:~ $ free total used free shared buffers cached Mem: 16318996 1004028 15314968 68076 45788 405912 -/+ buffers/cache: 552328 15766668 Swap: 4095996 0 4095996
So lack of ram does not figure into this laptop running 32 bit antiX. Only reason it is 32 bit. The hard drive came out of a older single core 64 bit laptop with no copious amounts of ram in it. This install is now years old since 2015. But it is current.
harry@biker:~ $ sudo apt-get -f install [sudo] password for harry: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: libjsoncpp0 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove it. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Now for the bad on what I am posting. You have MB of updates if installing 15 . Mine has been upgraded slowly and normally since I slapped this drive in here.
But the initial physical install of drive and powering on this laptop?
I pulled in 250MB of updates to bring it up to date. Using
sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Having run this distro for years. I am finally getting the hang of accepting or denying the package maintainers version when it comes to /etc changes.
You will probably ask. But that is for later. After a successful install.
You will also notice the AntiX 15 in my readout even though I have dist-upgraded for years. Because? We like to know what you started with.
That is all. No biggy for me. Should be no biggy for you.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsDecember 9, 2018 at 1:25 am #14073Member
nothing to do, i tried to update to 17 version from 16 but it killed my Antix 16 installation so now it doesn’t even boot.
How can i restore my Antix 16 ?December 9, 2018 at 2:03 am #14074Member
… i tried to update to 17 version from 16 but it killed my Antix 16 installation …
I’d recommend to stick with 16 since it’s working.
How can i restore my Antix 16 ?
1. Make backup of your OS with Clonezilla first
Simply restore your Clonezilla backup which you did before starting the upgrade.
Also i realized Antix 16 is so slow……i mean, it is slower than WINDOWS XP so maybe should i change linux version in order to get faster pc performance ?
Just like Ubuntu 18.04 is slower then 16.04, is slower then 14.04, is slower then 12.04, is slower then 10.04 …
Older OS’s are always quicker on deprecated HW. Also, don’t forget that antiX 17 is a Debian 9 and Debian 9 is slow.
Try installing Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS, Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS or Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS if you don’t need any new Software but, if you are happy with what comes preinstalled.
If you need something up to date and want to install additional SW, the only chance you can still make youre HW usable is to try to make a frugal install of Core.December 9, 2018 at 7:24 am #14078Member
thanks but the fact is now i can NOT boot my Antix 16 anymore.
When i select Antix 16 boot (instead of my WINDOWS XP PRO boot), i get a black screen with alghoritmic characters…
Is there any way to repair antix 16 installation or should it be better to format everything and reinstall Antix 16 from start ?December 9, 2018 at 8:09 am #14080Member
Is there any way to repair antix 16 installation or should it be better to format everything and reinstall Antix 16 from start ?
My personal opinion (== what I would do on your place) –> make fresh install.December 9, 2018 at 12:09 pm #14092Member
Is there any way to repair antix 16 installation
Unlikely, better start all over again. But anyway if I get this right in your inxi -v8, then you gave antix only 4.03 GiB place used already used: 3.02 GiB . This is really little, especially if you want to upgrade.Maybe just enough to try it out.So, if you like to keep antix16 give it some more place.
BTW, I still think this hardware should be able to boot antix17.2.2 live.There’s a DVD-player.Maybe try the antix-base on cd or antix-full on DVD.
How did you install antix16 ?
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