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dukester
I think that it’s time for me to upgrade my system. Do I have to do from scratch? Or can I do so from within Manolis Glezos?
I’ll backup ${HOME} for sure regardless. TIA …--
dukester
Brian Masinick
I think that it’s time for me to upgrade my system. Do I have to do from scratch? Or can I do so from within Manolis Glezos?
I’ll backup ${HOME} for sure regardless. TIA …It’s not “impossible” to “upgrade” between releases, but it’s a lot easier and cleaner to reinstall a new release.
If there’s anything you want to keep, the best practice is to back that up on removable media, then install
a new release, and finally copy back the items you kept on removable media.As long as you save and restore from and to the proper locations, everything will work well.
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
If there’s nothing important to save, it’s even easier to just install something else.
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Brian Masinickdukester
Got it! I want to keep ${HOME}, so I’ll DL the latest live-usb and install from scratch! Thx!
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dukesterBrian Masinick
Sure thing! Just make an offline copy of $HOME somewhere, and copy it back after installation; that ought to be pretty straightforward. Best wishes!
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Brian Masinickdukester
seaken64
I concur. You can also save a full copy of your current system using Live USB Maker and remaster utilities and keep that handy for reference after you get the new system installed.
Since I update at each new version I got used to not “playing” with the settings too much. I use antiX pretty much as the developers put out in the original versions. That makes it easier for me since I don’t have to hunt down my customizations and try to redo them in the new version. But to each their own. Many folks manage to move over there customizations, bearing in mind that some libraries use newer constructs and there has to be a sort of manual “tranlation” between versions.
Seaken64
dukester
You can also save a full copy of your current system using Live USB Maker and remaster utilitie
I’ve never had occasion to use these utilities. Would Live USB Maker “make” a full copy of my system, or just the ${HOME} directory ( or whatever I choose)? What do the remaster utilities do? Thanks for your input!!
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dukesterBrian Masinick
Live USB Maker is the program that creates an antiX image on USB; MX Linux has a virtually identical program.
If the release is either antiX or MX Linux, it builds an image that can run live from USB and also support saving updates to “persistent” files, IF you create them.
In addition, Live USB Maker is also able to write any valid image of other distributions to USB, except they are written using the dd Linux program, which creates a read-only USB image.
The remaster program will create an ISO image of whatever you’ve built. You can then use the Live USB Maker to physically write the remastered image created by the remaster program.
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
I concur. You can also save a full copy of your current system using Live USB Maker and remaster utilities and keep that handy for reference after you get the new system installed.
Since I update at each new version I got used to not “playing” with the settings too much. I use antiX pretty much as the developers put out in the original versions. That makes it easier for me since I don’t have to hunt down my customizations and try to redo them in the new version. But to each their own. Many folks manage to move over there customizations, bearing in mind that some libraries use newer constructs and there has to be a sort of manual “translation” between versions.
Seaken64
You know me; I keep all kinds of tools from all kinds of places; I’ve even ported tools from UNIX environments originally written in the eighties and nineties! All along I had an aim to make the tools as portable as possible. While I’ve had to change a few things, back when I created them I tested them against the original Bourne Shell, the Korn Shell and the Bash shell. When I ported them to my Linux systems, most of it worked; I’ve gradually removed a few things no longer used and added a few new alias definitions, yet 75% or more of what was originally created still work, so I’m very pleased.
I’m even able to move between versions and styles of Linux; I just change a few alias definitions to use whatever that particular distribution uses to update software; 3 to 5 lines in my tools are affected; that’s it.
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
Regarding the previous stuff, most people won’t want to do what I have done; we all have different interests and experiences.
I am merely showing that different people are able to manage their systems many different ways; if you know what you are doing, there are always choices and alternatives.--
Brian MasinickThe Live USB Maker has an option to clone your running system. That will save everything to an ISO file which you can then move to a portable device like a USB. If after you upgrade you realize you want to change some settings that did not get caught from your Home directory you can open the ISO and look around to find your config files. Most of stuff you want are in your Home. But sometimes you miss getting a config backed up, or a default config file that is now slightly different in the new system, etc.
Seaken64
Brian Masinick
The Live USB Maker has an option to clone your running system. That will save everything to an ISO file which you can then move to a portable device like a USB. If after you upgrade you realize you want to change some settings that did not get caught from your Home directory you can open the ISO and look around to find your config files. Most of stuff you want are in your Home. But sometimes you miss getting a config backed up, or a default config file that is now slightly different in the new system, etc.
Seaken64
There’s always something to learn; thanks! I do the remaster so I can retain my entire environment if I so choose; if Live USB Maker can clone 100% of a working environment, that saves multiple steps without a doubt; otherwise the remaster the environment, then write a new Live USB Maker image allows me to carry that self contained environment to another partition or even another computer. To what extent does the clone procedure do the equivalent; will it truly catch everything, and what features, options, selections do you select to perform this? I’m surprised I’ve missed this capability!
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Brian Masinickdukester
Got it! It takes a “snapshot” of my system and creates an iso file, which I can “etch” to a USB stick for future reference.
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dukesterI may be wrong on the LUM option. It may only work on LIVE systems, which is where I have used it. antiX does have a utility for making an ISO Snapshot on an installed on hard drive system. So, short of testing it out I would not use the LUM program unless you are running LIVE. Use ISO Snapshot on the Control Centre instead.
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