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Brian Masinick
I may be wrong on the LUM option. It may only work on LIVE systems, which is where I have used it. antiX does have a utility for making an ISO Snapshot on an installed on hard drive system. So, short of testing it out I would not use the LUM program unless you are running LIVE. Use ISO Snapshot on the Control Centre instead.
Seaken64
Yes, no wonder I didn’t spot it; the feature you mention is available to clone a running LIVE system, but for what I like to do, I remaster customized INSTALLED systems, then use Live USB Maker to create a USB image that can be run live or reinstalled somewhere else.
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
In fact, the other day I did just that; I remastered, THEN I made an image of that system using Live USB Maker, then I ran from it live, and it had ALL the stuff I had on my previously custom configured system.
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Brian Masinick
dukester
Xunzi_23
The Live USB Maker has an option to clone your running system,
That confused me.Sorry, in my experience no, you can clone two sticks from another
succesfully running antiX though.
Done very recently for my Welsh new user and wife.You can make an ISO snapshot then Live USB Maker.
If intending to keep home in a reinstall please be aware many config
files will be different in newer version as antiX updates do not touch
home setup.Best practice is only transfer what you need to a fresh. home
seaken64
Yes, I agree. Use the data in Home to copy and update the newly installed system. Just dropping the entire Home is not a good idea between versions. You will read that some folks do exactly that. But when updating between generations if is not a good idea. Some folks who do this are using more of a “rolling” release model. It also depends on how complicated your personal setting have become, or if you are in control and know exactly what you are doing. Lot’s of variables when going from one version/generation to another.
Seaken64
dukester
Yes, I agree. Use the data in Home to copy and update the newly installed system.
All I’m interested in is saving mp3/mp4/pdf/odt/txt/and source code files. I’ll use the KISS principle – I’ll connect a high-capacity USB stick or HDD to my laptop and copy over everything that I want to keep. Then when the new system is up, I’ll copy it back. Sound like a plan?
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dukesterBrian Masinick
dukester
Yes, that is the perfect approach.
In most of my systems I just upgrade and don’t worry about trying to save anything. But I am an experimenter and a hobbiest and I enjoy the whole process of learning the quirks between the old system and new systems. But I do keep all my wallpapers and internet radio links, and some docs I make up as memory aides, on a USB and a backup on my server, and then copy and paste on the new system.
I have found the external USB drive on my Netgear router a convenient place to store some stuff I want to keep from system to system. Once I get the new system set up on the LAN I can access them easily as needed.
Seaken64
dukester
I’m a hobbyist as well. Seems like we’re on the same track. Thanks for the tips!
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dukester
blur13
There’s definitely something to be said for simply sticking with the defaults. Makes upgrading a lot easier. And also, if you find yourself using a different computer than your own, then you’re not completely lost because you changed every default keyboard shortcut to something personalized.
(This is from personal experience. I still customize everything…)
dukester
dukester
fdisk -l
Device Start End Sectors Size Type
/dev/sda1 2048 976476159 976474112 465.6G Linux filesystem
/dev/sda2 976476160 980672511 4196352 2G Linux swap
/dev/sda3 980672512 980673535 1024 512K FreeBSD boot
/dev/sda4 980673536 1945362423 964688888 460G FreeBSD UFS
/dev/sda5 1945362424 1953525134 8162711 3.9G FreeBSD swapI’ve decided to use the FreeBSD partition to upgrade to antiX-22.
I suppose that all I have to do is make sure that I don’t blow it and choose “/dev/sda3”! Correct?I’ll back up selected directories in ${HOME} still.
I also plan to install another distro in “/dev/sda1” – like maybe gentoo or archlinux. Suggestions please!
So How would I tell GRUB to boot off “/dev/sda3” first? Is there a way to prioritize the boot partition order?
Once again – thanks in advance!!
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dukesterBrian Masinick
IF you intend to essentially reinstall across ALL of these partitions, it appears that you may have close to 1 TB, or roughly 1000 GB of potential space.
That’s certainly enough room for AT LEAST two distributions, but unless you save an awful lot of stuff, you COULD potentially carve them out differently and try out as many as four or five distributions; that’s completely up to you.
If your hardware is able to handle any full featured distributions, you could try out our cousin, MX Linux; it is a desktop based distribution, though it has a Fluxbox light derivative, it’s main version is Xfce based, and they also have a KDE variation; I’d skip KDE unless you have considerable hardware and software resources available. If you are interested in trying out a cutting edge distribution, siduction recently released https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=11782 siduction 22.1.1.
If you want to try a cutting edge Arch-based distribution, EndeavourOS https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=endeavour might be worth a look. If you want to stick with Debian or Debian alternatives, then how about Devuan? https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=Devuan and https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/devuan/devuan_daedalus/ is what I have on one of my systems..When you rebuild, personally I’d revamp your setup. I’ve been successful for years in using and reusing a swap partition that is reused by all of my distributions. In my case, I very seldom actually need to actively use swap, so it makes little difference whether it’s used by more than one distribution; it’s never used by any of them at the same time, and can hold any processes that are “swapped out”; ideally you never have to actually swap anything unless you are severely limited in usable system memory.
I have no issues at all multibooting. I definitely don’t need 400-500 GB per system, so if you decide to try out 3, 4, or 5 distributions, allowing 40-80 GB, or even 100-150 GB per distro would be fine, unless you really max them out with every app possible. This allows the possibility of trying out a lot of stuff, or alternatively creating a data partition to store pictures, videos, or movies, which can potentially chew up MORE space than a distribution. Such a “data” partition could conceivably be shared by distributions, IF you add the data partition to the mount setup in each distro during configuration. Again, that is another potential way to use and share space, but then you do have to explicitly set that up IF you choose to share it between systems. If you are not adept at partitioning and managing setups, that may be something for “future consideration” and it might be something for medium to advanced user capabilities.
At least these are things you may potentially learn about and grow into in the future.
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Brian Masinickdukester
IF you intend to essentially reinstall across ALL of these partitions, it appears that you may have close to 1 TB, or roughly 1000 GB of potential space.
Correct ..
That’s certainly enough room for AT LEAST two distributions, but unless you save an awful lot of stuff, you COULD potentially carve them out differently and try out as many as four or five distributions; that’s completely up to you.
If I had a young brain and was a speed-demon on the keyboard, I’d carve the HDD to run 4+ distros. As it stands, I think 3 partitions for distros and a common swap would be great. 🙂
Devuan looks good! What’s devuan_daedalus? a derivative of the former?
When you rebuild, personally I’d revamp your setup. I’ve been successful for years in using and reusing a swap partition that is reused by all of my distributions.
I suppose to get that to happen, I would carve out 3 partitions for the distros – lets say – and one common partition for swap?
I hear you about the common “data partition”, but I think I’ll keep it simple for the time being. Maybe down the road ..
Artic MX-6 coming tomorrow from Amazon. I’ll be cleaning the ASUS and cooling the beast off shortly, THEN I’ll carve up and upgrade.
How do you deal with GRUB with all those distros?
Thanks again for the great suggestions!
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dukester
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