Boot time V5.10.x kernel is more than 4 minutes

[Member gsm]

High there,

Antix live boots fast and runs fine. After installation and booting Antix with the default V5.10.x kernel, only a dark screen with blinking cursor is shown.
This lasts for more than 4 minutes, after which Antix starts running fine.
When selecting the 4.9.x kernel from the Advanced boot menu, Antix boots insanely fast within 15 seconds on my old Toshiba laptop!
I will upload the dmesg output in two separate attachments for the 4.9.x and 5.10.x kernels.
Note: MX Linux 21 (XFCE) runs fine out of the box on the same laptop.

Inxy:

System:
  Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: IceWM v: 2.9.9
    Distro: antiX-21_x64-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite C660 v: PSC0LE-00900GDU
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: TOSHIBA model: PWWAM v: 1.00 serial: <superuser required>
    BIOS: TOSHIBA v: 1.00 date: 09/03/2010
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 26.3 Wh (100.0%) condition: 26.3/48.6 Wh (54.2%)
CPU:
  Info: dual core model: Pentium T4500 bits: 64 type: MCP cache: L2: 1024 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1400 min/max: 1200/2300 cores: 1: 1200 2: 1600
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: intel gpu: i915
    resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express (CTG)
    v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet driver: r8169
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 88:ae:1d:f0:63:bd
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter driver: rtl8192ce
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: 1c:65:9d:54:da:c1
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 8.17 GiB (1.8%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 76.98 GiB used: 8.17 GiB (10.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 161 Uptime: 21m Memory: 3.7 GiB used: 958.2 MiB (25.3%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.19

• This topic was modified 7 months, 1 week ago by gsm.

[Member gsm]

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Sorry, i was not allowed to upload the dmesg files.

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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If the 4.9 kernel works well ie all your hardware is functioning then just use that.
There are some posts in the forum where some laptops seem not to boot the 5.10 kernel to desktop (or even at all).
One ‘fix’ was to remove the quiet and/or any vga=xxx ‘cheats’ at the boot menu

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[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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Yeah, I was going crazy with a similar issue. I finally got 2-3 of the 5.10 kernels to boot; even with great care I still usually have to boot a 4.9 kernel first to get around whatever the strange defect is in that kernel release.

Debian in particular has multiple defects against the 5.10 kernel. The crazy part is that it only affects certain systems; if you really want to experiment try a very verbose boot mode, don’t use the framebuffer (add nofb) and if even that doesn’t work, try S nofb and noquiet to see how far you get.

But unless you have the time to figure it out I’d personally just use either a newer or older kernel, avoiding the 5.10 kernel altogether. That’s finally what I did.

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[Member gsm]

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Thanks for the useful information.

With the Package installer it was easy to remove the 5.10.x kernel.
The laptop boots antiX v4.9.x by default in about 15 seconds and that is very much faster than other distributions taking 1 minute average.

[Member Wallon]

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Dear gsm,

Isn’t this word gsm a bit French?

Try the 5.10.142 kernel prepared especially by anticapitalista for all the people who have problems with the 5.10 series.
If it doesn’t work, try the 5.18.00 kernel as well.
Give us news after your tests?

Best regards,
Wallon

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https://www.lifewire.com/definition-of-gsm-578670 — possible meaning?

Global System for Mobile communications is the most popular cell phone standard. According to the GSM Association, which represents the interests of the worldwide mobile communications industry, roughly 80 percent of the world uses GSM technology for wireless calls.

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gsm is short for Gerrit Smit (Dutch).

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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gsm wrote:

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::gsm is short for Gerrit Smit (Dutch).

Our handles and acronyms can be used for many different things; thanks for sharing yours with us, and welcome to our forum!

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5.10.142 has the long boot delay with blinking cursor. Not other 5.10.x is available in the Package Installer.
4.9.0-326 is ok and i will stick for now with that one.

[Member gsm]

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@Wallon
Test result:
Linux 5.18 for 64-bit PCs (signed) boots in 20 seconds and seems to run well, while writing this comment.
Linux kernel, version 4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp takes only 15 seconds!

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gsm

[Member wildstar84]

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I recall running into a “black-screen” issue like this on my Intel-integrated (Iron Lake) laptop back in the 5-10ish era and resolved it with the following boot parameter: i915.fastboot=0 Not sure it’s still needed, but have retained it (I’m on Liquorix 5-19 w/no issues)

Hope this helps!

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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gsm wrote:

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:: @Wallon
Test result:
Linux 5.18 for 64-bit PCs (signed) boots in 20 seconds and seems to run well, while writing this comment.
Linux kernel, version 4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp takes only 15 seconds!

Regards
gsm

Given that the 4.9 kernel boots quickly on your system I recommend using it.

On my new laptop I need 5.18 or 5.19 systems for it to work but on my older laptops I really like the 4.9 kernels; they’re lighter and fast.

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