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[Member cyrilus31]

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I don’t know if seamonkey is secure, but from the tests I carried out it’s the best for low configurations (P4 and 1Go ram inside)

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From what I know, I think Seamonkey is a fork of an old Firefox version. But that does not mean it’s an outdated (and not secure) browser. The latest beta is dated from December 7, 2022, which means that probably in early 2023, we’ll have a new version. The changes includes “some minor updates for web compatibility like implementing microtasks”.
The problem with Seamonkey is that it lacks compatibility with some modern websites (Ex: github), that don’t work at all or work only with some extension (like polyfill).
You can install, for example, an extension that allows seamonkey to open pdf files- making it a perfect browser for office work (if you need to work with pdf’s, like I do).
Seamonkey is a lot lighter than firefox and firefox-esr.
Running any application in a 32bits OS, usually means that about 50% less RAM is used, when compared to a 64bits OS (It’s roughly my estimate, from my old HP 32bits laptop).
If Seamonkey works for the sites you need to use, stick with it. If some site does not work with it, suffer and open it with firefox or firefox-esr (or any other browser that works for you).
I personally use seamonkey and the last Min Browser 32bits version, on my 32bits system. For some sites, I use Firefox-esr.
Note that seamonkey e-mail client is quite good, and even works with gmail (and I can’t make it work with Claws mail).

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[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey

From this page, “SeaMonkey is a free and open-source Internet suite. It is the continuation of the former Mozilla Application Suite, based on the same source code, which itself grew out of Netscape Communicator and formed the base of Netscape 6 and Netscape 7.

SeaMonkey was created in 2005 after the Mozilla Foundation decided to focus on the standalone projects Firefox and Thunderbird. The development of SeaMonkey is community-driven, in contrast to the Mozilla Application Suite, which until its last released version (1.7.13) was governed by the Mozilla Foundation. The new project-leading group is called the SeaMonkey Council.

Compared to Firefox, the SeaMonkey web browser keeps the more traditional-looking interface of Netscape and the Mozilla Application Suite, most notably the XUL architecture. This allows the user to extend SeaMonkey by modifying add-ons for Thunderbird or the add-ons that were formerly compatible with Firefox before the latter switched to WebExtensions.

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To avoid confusing organizations that still want to use the original Mozilla Application Suite, the new product needed a new name. After initial speculation by members of the community, a July 2, 2005 announcement confirmed that SeaMonkey would officially become the name of the Internet suite superseding the Mozilla Application Suite.

On March 10, 2005, the Mozilla Foundation announced that it would not release any official versions of Mozilla Application Suite beyond 1.7.x, since it had now focused on the standalone applications Firefox and Thunderbird. However, the Foundation emphasized that it would still provide infrastructure for community members who wished to continue development. In effect, this meant that the suite would still continue to be developed, but now by the SeaMonkey Council instead of the Mozilla Foundation.

SeaMonkey was first released on September 15, 2005. SeaMonkey 1 was released on January 30, 2006.”

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Application_Suite

So in one sense, Firefox (2002) definitely preceded SeaMonkey (2005), but the Mozilla Application Suite was a direct descendant of Netscape. In 2005 the SeaMonkey development continued from the Mozilla Application Suite 1.7 series. So SeaMonkey, by name, came AFTER Firefox; the code base, though refactored, did come largely from Netscape –> rewritten Mozilla Application Suite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_web_browsers

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hello andfree
https://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=14943121#p14943121
by Frank Lion
https://seamonkey.boards.net/thread/45/seamonkey-problem-assets-on-github
by admin

Hello PPC
and Seamonkey has tab preview! Its email compozser is a comfortable text editor.
The links are for github issue (?)

[Member andfree]

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Thanks for all your replies. At first, I’d like to give a try to this:

PPC wrote:

the last Min Browser 32bits version

Where can I find a deb file for this 32bits version, please?

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Have to say using a search engine helps 🙂

https://github.com/minbrowser/min/releases?page=5

The deb on page 5 may not be the most recent, I leave finding that out to you.

[Member andfree]

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Xunzi_23 wrote:

using a search engine helps

Xunzi_23 wrote:

The deb on page 5 may not be the most recent

Thanks for the effort, but I think that the latter somehow contradicts the former.
I hope that PPC could say which file he has used, so as to help us avoid searching blindly.

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general.useragent.compatMode.firefox is true by default on my SeaMonkey. I also changed the value for general.useragent.compatMode.strict-firefox to true (should I change the value for the former one to false?). Unfortunately, this didn’t solve the problems that SeaMonkey has with specific sites (I have wrote about them here & here).

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andfree wrote,

Xunzi_23 wrote:

using a search engine helps

Xunzi_23 wrote:

The deb on page 5 may not be the most recent

Thanks for the effort, but I think that the latter somehow contradicts the former.

Means you are Too lazy to search the rest of appropriate the site archived version pages.
What an attitude.
This is NOT A PAID SUPPORT SITE, I do not need the old browser. .

[Member andfree]

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Why worry? I really appreciate your help, and nobody said you’re obliged to do something more. I don’t need “the old browser”, too. I would give it a try, but I don’t find it worth wasting time searching.

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[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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“general.useragent.compatMode.firefox is true by default on my SeaMonkey. I also changed the value for general.useragent.compatMode.strict-firefox to true (should I change the value for the former one to false?).”

Keep both set to true; at least you should get some level of compatibility. It works well for me when I use either Palemoon or Seamonkey with these values.

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Brian Masinick wrote:

Keep both set to true; at least you should get some level of compatibility.

Thank you.

sybok wrote:

I resort to text-based browsers such as ‘lynx’ (or ‘elinks’, ‘links2’ etc.) for pages where the inconvenience is minor.

Thank you, too.
I see that ‘lynx’ is a terminal-based browser. Maybe someday I give it a try.
As for the rest of the very minimal browsers, only “Dillo” seems to work for me.
‘links2’ seems to be just a dead grey window.
‘elinks’ doesn’t seem to work, too:

Error
Unable to retrieve http://www.antixforum.com/:
Host not found
OK

EDIT:
In the next post, andyprough explains to me how to use ‘links2’.
After that, in my next post, I say that ‘elinks’ also works, but there’s a problem about the direct access of these browsers to the antiX forum.

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[Member andyprough]

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andfree wrote:

‘links2’ seems to be just a dead grey window.

Hit the “g” button on your keyboard to type in a url and go somewhere. The F1 button will give you a list of keyboard shortcuts. Escape key will bring up a menu at the top. links2 is very quick and minimal, works great on nearly any site that doesn’t require a lot of complicated javascript just to see the text of the page.

If you like it, type in “xlinks2” on the command line in antiX – it’s a special antiX command to bring up links2 in graphical mode, so that it will display pictures from the websites. It’s very cool, something I use quite often. If you have any questions leave me a response, as I have written some tutorials on using links2/xlinks2 and on theming it and configuring it to use some of its advanced features. I can either answer short questions here or give you links to my longer how-to threads.

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andyprough wrote:

Hit the “g” button on your keyboard to type in a url and go somewhere.

andyprough wrote:

type in “xlinks2” on the command line in antiX – it’s a special antiX command to bring up links2 in graphical mode, so that it will display pictures from the websites.

Many thanks.
At first, I tried again with http://www.antixforum.com, and the same error message that had appeared in “elinks”, appeared again:

Error
Unable to retrieve http://www.antixforum.com/:
Host not found
OK

Then, I tried with google.com, and it worked. I used the search engine and successfully accessed antiX forum. This worked for all: “links2”, “xlinks2” & “elinks”.

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How about netsurf ?

https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=bullseye&searchon=names&keywords=netsurf

netsurf-fb -f x
netsurf-gtk2

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