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user2022 wrote:

How about netsurf ?

$ sudo dpkg -i netsurf-fb_3.10-1+b1_i386.deb
Selecting previously unselected package netsurf-fb.
(Reading database ... 115824 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack netsurf-fb_3.10-1+b1_i386.deb ...
Unpacking netsurf-fb (3.10-1+b1) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of netsurf-fb:
 netsurf-fb depends on libvncserver1 (>= 0.9.10); however:
  Package libvncserver1 is not installed.
 netsurf-fb depends on netsurf-common (= 3.10-1); however:
  Package netsurf-common is not installed.

dpkg: error processing package netsurf-fb (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for man-db (2.10.1-1~bpo11+1) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 netsurf-fb

$ sudo dpkg -i netsurf-gtk_3.10-1+b1_i386.deb
Selecting previously unselected package netsurf-gtk.
(Reading database ... 115831 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack netsurf-gtk_3.10-1+b1_i386.deb ...
Unpacking netsurf-gtk (3.10-1+b1) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of netsurf-gtk:
 netsurf-gtk depends on netsurf-common (= 3.10-1); however:
  Package netsurf-common is not installed.

dpkg: error processing package netsurf-gtk (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.26-1) ...
Processing triggers for mailcap (3.69) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.10.1-1~bpo11+1) ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 netsurf-gtk

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Netsurf: good idea.
I’ll check it out and see what is usable with this web browser.

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On antiX21 netsurf should be in the repo and installable per synaptic or apt.

Version 3.9-0.1~mx19+1

sudo apt install netsurf

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Hello, andfree!

> dpkg -i netsurf-gtk_3.10-1+b1_i386.deb

need install netsurf-common first
packages.debian.org/bullseye/netsurf-common
and after netsurf-common try install netsurf-gtk

> dpkg -i netsurf-fb_3.10-1+b1_i386.deb

need libvncserver1 and netsurf-common package before netsurf-fb
packages.debian.org/bullseye/netsurf-common
packages.debian.org/bullseye/libvncserver1

PS:
Now in debian-based linux for install local package better use apt-get, for example
instead of
sudo dpkg -i netsurf-gtk_3.10-1+b1_i386.deb
try
sudo apt-get install ./netsurf-gtk_3.10-1+b1_i386.deb
(with full package path)
apt-get can solve dependence

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Caprea wrote: “On antiX21 netsurf should be in the repo and installable per synaptic or apt.

Version 3.9-0.1~mx19+1

sudo apt install netsurf”

I found version 3.10 available.

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Many thanks for your replies.

user2022 wrote:

need install netsurf-common first

user2022 wrote:

need libvncserver1 and netsurf-common package before netsurf-fb

Indeed, today morning:

$ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 netsurf-fb : Depends: libvncserver1 (>= 0.9.10) but it is not installed
              Depends: netsurf-common (= 3.10-1) but it is not installed
 netsurf-gtk : Depends: netsurf-common (= 3.10-1) but it is not installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).

$ sudo apt --fix-broken install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  fonts-dejavu fonts-dejavu-extra libvncserver1 netsurf-common
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  fonts-dejavu fonts-dejavu-extra libvncserver1 netsurf-common
0 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
2 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 2,508 kB of archives.
After this operation, 9,125 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
Get:1 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye/main i386 libvncserver1 i386 0.9.13+dfsg-2+deb11u1 [241 kB]
Get:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye/main i386 fonts-dejavu-extra all 2.37-2 [2,070 kB]
Get:3 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye/main i386 fonts-dejavu all 2.37-2 [32.6 kB]
Get:4 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian bullseye/main i386 netsurf-common all 3.10-1 [164 kB]
Fetched 2,508 kB in 1min 4s (39.2 kB/s)                                                  
Selecting previously unselected package libvncserver1:i386.
(Reading database ... 115841 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libvncserver1_0.9.13+dfsg-2+deb11u1_i386.deb ...
Unpacking libvncserver1:i386 (0.9.13+dfsg-2+deb11u1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package fonts-dejavu-extra.
Preparing to unpack .../fonts-dejavu-extra_2.37-2_all.deb ...
Unpacking fonts-dejavu-extra (2.37-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package fonts-dejavu.
Preparing to unpack .../fonts-dejavu_2.37-2_all.deb ...
Unpacking fonts-dejavu (2.37-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package netsurf-common.
Preparing to unpack .../netsurf-common_3.10-1_all.deb ...
Unpacking netsurf-common (3.10-1) ...
Setting up libvncserver1:i386 (0.9.13+dfsg-2+deb11u1) ...
Setting up fonts-dejavu-extra (2.37-2) ...
Setting up fonts-dejavu (2.37-2) ...
Setting up netsurf-common (3.10-1) ...
Setting up netsurf-fb (3.10-1+b1) ...
update-alternatives: using /usr/bin/netsurf-fb to provide /usr/bin/netsurf (netsurf-browser) in auto mode
Setting up netsurf-gtk (3.10-1+b1) ...
Processing triggers for fontconfig (2.13.1-4.2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.31-13+deb11u5) ...

$ sudo apt-get install ./netsurf-gtk_3.10-1+b1_i386.deb
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting 'netsurf-gtk' instead of './netsurf-gtk_3.10-1+b1_i386.deb'
netsurf-gtk is already the newest version (3.10-1+b1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

Now, netsurf-gtk works and it seems very nice. The access to the antiX forum is direct.
I suppose that login to forum is not supported. I put username & password twice, but it asks for them again, as I had put them wrongly.
Should I install netsurf-fb, too?

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I was eventually able to get the credentials added. In my case I was successful by adding the credentials by logging in after selecting a topic and a reply, logging in there instead of from the main menu with netsurf.

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We had a short 503 outage as I was posting the previous message. I waited 5-10 minutes, posted again and it worked.

We’re not completely finished fixing the outage issues but we have a procedure that is able to restart the service in approximately two minutes.

Let me know if the suggestion for netsurf is clear and if you are able to login using a reply thread to enter the credentials. Thanks!

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andfree wrote:

Should I install netsurf-fb, too?

netsurf-fb is the “framebuffer” version, which you would use if you weren’t working in a graphical X session with a window manager like Icewm or a desktop environment like xfce. It’s pretty cool to be able to use it like that in a tty. But no, you probably don’t need it unless you just want to have fun trying it out that way.

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Many thanks for the replies.

Brian Masinick wrote:

I was successful by adding the credentials by logging in after selecting a topic and a reply

This worked for me, too. Thank you. I’m using netsurf to write this post, but not without problems. The text cursor is invisible (I’m using the mouse one instead), BBCode bar does not appear & the “QUOTE” link is not active (I copied the quote from Pale Moon for this post).
The “REPLY” & “EDIT” links work. The “Helpful” button doesn’t.
The text cursor sometimes appears.
Pressing both touchpad buttons at the same time (resembling with a middle mouse button) doesn’t work as an alternative for copy-paste.

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andfree wrote:

the “QUOTE” link is not active (I copied the quote from Pale Moon for this post).

The reason the quotes don’t work is because Netsurf can’t handle the antiX forum javascript properly. However, you can always do a quote reply here:
1. Find the # at the upper right corner of the post you are quoting from – for instance your post is #97226
2. start the quoted material with “[“quote quote=97226″]” (or whichever post # you pick)
3. paste the quoted words
4. end the quoted material with “[“/quote”]”
*** – remove the ” marks for this to work

You can even post with quotes from links2/xlinks2 here – with no javascript engine at all.

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andyprough wrote:

1. Find the # at the upper right corner of the post you are quoting from – for instance your post is #97226
2. start the quoted material with “[“quote quote=97226″]” (or whichever post # you pick)
3. paste the quoted words
4. end the quoted material with “[“/quote”]”

Thank you.

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Great advice Andy.

The same is true of any other “markup” feature, as long as you know what the starting and ending tags are and what they do.

Conceptually they are similar to the way that html tags work, but in this case they are the tags used in our forum software, so they definitely are NOT identical to the html tags, simply similar in concept.

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Hello,

Is chromium on i386 32bit really not secure anymore? This is just a question of clarification in these interesting thread following the discussion in the first page. Madibi and PPC stated that chromium on 32 bit was not secure anymore and not updated. Then the argument was made that google chrome and other browsers based on chromium were not an option anymore for 32 bit, but it is not entirely clear to me where we stand regarding the use of chromium itself, though user2022 placed a link to debian download pages for chromium where a fresh version could be obtained.

I still receive chromium updates when updating antiX through the updater on my 32 bit machine, currently running chromium 109.0.5414.74 (official build) built on debian 11.6, running on debian 11.6. Am I still in the clear regarding security updates for chromium?

Thank you all for the good work.

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solar wrote:

Am I still in the clear regarding security updates for chromium?

Just to make it clear – I think that the Chromium Dev team stopped supporting 32bits (by this I mean creating packages that allow chromium to be installed in 32bits systems). However I assume that the Debian Dev Team compiled the Chromium source code from scratch and created packages for 32 bits systems. If my assumption is correct, then those 32bits packages should be fairly up to date and secure to use (on any 32bits that is able to run those .deb packages, which I assume, it’s not all of them)

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