Browsers for old CPUs

[Member Garrett Derner]

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Fenyo, the freexian elts Debian 8 repo is alive and working. Officially it’s supported until June 2025, but it could be extended further if customers still want it. His Debian 9 goes through some time in 2027, and his GPG key does not expire until then. So it seems to be not the key, nor the repo, but the site certificate. I guess wget --no-check-certificate would also work. Maybe he’ll get around to updating that certificate, but for now I’m glad to find a way that works, and share it, for anyone here trying to set up the repo.

BTW, although I call them “his” repos, his site says it’s Debian developers doing the work. Hertzog raises funds to pay them.

Thank you for posting all those browser builds!! I’ll be trying those.

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[Member Fenyo]

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Cyberghost: Yes, someone mentioned Netsurf, in the first half of this thread, which is a good from a resource point of view, less so from a feature point of view, no html5 and javascript support and only partial css. By the way, Pentium M is already a modern cpu 🙂 on feature level, since it knows sse2, so apart from the latest (89+) Chrome based browsers (which already require sse3), it will run any current official browser. We’re mostly talking about pre sse2 cpus, which were officially dropped from the support list of all relevant browsers in the middle of 2018 (Firefox 52.9 ESR, Seamonkey 2.49.4, Palemoon SSE 27.9.4 were the last ones on Linux, under Windows even earlier).

Garett Derner: yes i know that freexian repos are alive :), i was thinking that other repos like older antix or other 3rd patry repos if they were installed and dead or expired, freexian didn’t work until i removed them from the sources list (disabled them or replaced them with live ones) at least that was my experience, that you found another way…

[Member Garrett Derner]

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Fenyo, right, I see! Yes, delete the obsolete repos, or apt-get update won’t finish.

Right now I looking for how to install the key for antix-17. A couple days ago, I was seeing this announcement from antiX:

antiX stretch based versions (antiX-17 series) only have one working antiX repo.
deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/stretch/ stretch main nosystemd nonfree
Most if not all other mirrors will give errors

Today I’m trying to use that repo, but I get expired key errors. Should be fixable, I think. Only, when I look around at the antiX sites for the above announcement, I no longer find it. Maybe that last holdout antix/stretch mirror just broke, like yesterday?

…No, it seems fine! All I needed to do was
apt-get install --allow-unauthenticated antix-archive-keyring

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[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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It’s not broken, but it will be unavailable once antiX-23 (bookworm based) is released.

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

[Member Garrett Derner]

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anticapitalista, thank you! I have a further question. It isn’t about browsers, though, so I’ll start a new thread.

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[Member Fenyo]

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Today I’m trying to use that repo, but I get expired key errors. Should be fixable, I think. Only, when I look around at the antiX sites for the above announcement, I no longer find it. Maybe that last holdout antix/stretch mirror just broke, like yesterday?

Hello,

Try this , works, even for older antix repos, if you can find one that is still alive.

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CyberGhost wrote:

if anyone mentioned Netsurf yet

Hi, CyberGhost!

Unfortunately Netsurf develop is slowly 🙁
For example, current version released three year ago.
I used Netsurf, but it can not be main browser in system (for anfix-forum it suit but bad for more complex web-site).
For debian-9 family i builded Netsurf 3.10 for himself
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/-ynMOlrHFSu48Q/netsurf
(gtk’s and framebuffer version)

[Member calciumsodium]

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Hello,
I used to use netsurf a lot on my older 32-bit systems. It is very fast and simple. But I stopped using it because I found out that netsurf does a lot of input output writes to the hard drive. I found this out in my runit systems using iotop. At the time in its development in antiX 21, the runit systems were during a lot of input output writes to the hard drive using runsv logs. Netsurf was doing even more input output writes to the hard drive than the runit runsv logs. So I stopped using netsurf to preserve the life of my old hard drives. Just my experience.

Now on my oldest system using antiX OS, if I have at least 500 Mb of ram, a luxury, I use seamonkey. If I have less RAM then I use lynx, links, links2, and elinks.

Sometimes, if I use SliTaz OS, I use their TazWeb browser, which can render many modern websites, such as youtube and indivious. Watching the videos is harder because the CPU is too old.

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calciumsodium wrote:

TazWeb browser

Hi, calciumsodium

TazWeb from SliTaz is browser use libwebkit+GTK like classic midori browser from repository
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=midori
midori-7.0 is last version of classic midori browser (based on libwebkit)

for debian 9 midori-7.0
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/-ynMOlrHFSu48Q/midori
and for debian 9 better use more modern version of libwebkit from stretch-backports-sloppy (it better for midori-browser and for epiphany-browser)
https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=stretch-backports-sloppy&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libwebkit

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[Member CyberGhost]

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Oops! I meant to comment on the “browsers for 32 bit” thread not this one! My mistake! Thanks for the info though ya’ll!

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I don’t think Min has been mentioned yet but I’m posting from it now and it seems to work fine on fairly undemanding websites and uses few system resources; about 540 MB of RAM, for example, and almost no processor activity. I haven’t tested it on a more resource-intensive website though it works well on Youtube and the website of a national newspaper I looked at.

https://minbrowser.org/

(Edit: I take that back. It’s fine with Youtube as long as all you want to do is play videos and you don’t want to sign in, but when I did try to sign in I got this message;

Couldn’t sign you in
This browser or app may not be secure. Learn more
Try using a different browser. If you’re already using a supported browser, you can try again to sign in.
)

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[Member Lu.C.]

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How i can install firefoxsse-esr-91.13.0 After extracting It?

[Member Fenyo]

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If you unpacked e.g. /home/pathtowhereyouextracted/firefox-esr, you can just run it simply (usually with alt+f2) with /home/pathtowhereyouextracted/firefox-esr/firefox-esr, then if you want to keep it just create launcher for it, there are gui applications for this (menu manager, menu creator or similar something), but it can also be created manually by creating a firefox-esr.desktop file under /usr/share/applications, here is an example of how to create a launcher for palemoon, obviously you have to modify the paths and the name/locations of the launcher application, but it’s good for analogy.

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Fenyo wrote:

If you unpacked e.g. /home/pathtowhereyouextracted/firefox-esr, you can just run it simply (usually with alt+f2) with /home/pathtowhereyouextracted/firefox-esr/firefox-esr, then if you want to keep it just create launcher for it, there are gui applications for this (menu manager, menu creator or similar something), but it can also be created manually by creating a firefox-esr.desktop file under /usr/share/applications, here is an example of how to create a launcher for palemoon, obviously you have to modify the paths and the name/locations of the launcher application, but it’s good for analogy.

You’re right. In fact I download and manage several different browsers myself and I am able to put them on the taskbar of IceWM and the toolbars of Xfce (or on a desktop or menu). All that’s necessary is to provide a name of your program, the complete path to the image you are running and the location of the icon for your application. When you install your own application all of these are in the directory tree where you store your program. When you use an already installed program you use the location of the binary for the program and the location of the icon to put the parameters in /use/share/applications.

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calciumsodium wrote:

if I use SliTaz OS, I use their TazWeb browser

Try build TazWeb for 32-bit debian 🙂
source from
https://github.com/SliTaz-official/tazweb

GTK version work 🙂
Need only repair “Home web-site”
TazWeb-ng version have tabs
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/-ynMOlrHFSu48Q/TazWeb

And try build Qt version TazWeb-Qt
But TazWeb-Qt write for Qt4, i build for Qt5 and it work only as web-site viewer… i do not know why…

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