Cant install Budgie DE

[Member zilvinas]

Hello, I new to AntiX (migrated from LM) and I just love AntiX. Its fast, simple and customizable, but I got error. I tried to install Budgie DE. When I’m loading Budgie from Desktop menu it’s not loads it leaves just blank desktop wallpaper. Any tips how to load Budgie?

[Moderator BobC]

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Just curious what was missing from all 5 antiX desktops and file manager choices that made you want to install the Budgie DE and use it instead? I ask that in case there might be things we could do to improve them for people.

Does the Budgie DE include wallpaper and a program to control changing the wallpaper? It might be that if you installed a base or full flavor of antiX that you could run antiX’s wallpaper changing program and it might work. The best bet would be to try it.

I haven’t tried installing the Budgie DE, myself. How it would work on top of an antiX system would depend on which version and flavor and possibly desktop of antiX you installed it onto. But you didn’t say, so I don’t know. There are posts at the top of the thread list that explain what info is needed and how to get it.

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[Moderator caprea]

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Please also tell us how you installed budgie desktop. Best way to do it on antiX would be the Package Installer from
control-centre > software > Package Installer
It should install everything needed for a working desktop.

[Moderator BobC]

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FYI, We still have very few clues what you have or did, so even if we try to fix something, it may not help you. I am guessing maybe you don’t speak English, and that is not unusual here, so don’t worry about it. If you aren’t technically good at posting in English, post the Google translation and underneath it, post in your native language in case someone here can help with that.

On a test machine, I took a fresh USB of antiX 22 x64 full, updated and upgraded, then used the package installer to install a light Budgie DE. The install goes fine, no errors.

If I logout or reboot and then select Budgie on the login screen, it gives me the unusual desktop window, and I go on from there trying to run Budgie, the screen with the telephone wires stays up, and the keys and mouse do nothing. There were no errors on the screens, and the problem is not related to wallpaper.

I can Ctrl+Alt+2 to a new session and login that way, but basically Budgie doesn’t work.

So, the problem I found was that I was able to successfully install the light Budgie desktop, but when I tried to run it, it didn’t seem to work at all. Maybe whoever tested the original can help diagnose where the problem is.

[Member zilvinas]

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caprea wrote:

Please also tell us how you installed budgie desktop. Best way to do it on antiX would be the Package Installer from
control-centre > software > Package Installer
It should install everything needed for a working desktop.

I installed exactly this way as you described trough native installation. But then Im trying to load Budgie trough meniu option (Desktops) its change for empty desktop (without taskbar ant other), and some window pop-out who says what I need to choose window manager so I choose Budgie and it leaves me with empty desktop :/ I have no idea how to fix this. And right now I got empty desktop, have no clue how to fix it, Im tired of reinstalling antiX again and again as I get to point where its only wallpaper is showing up I cant even go back to previous default antix desktop :/
After Budgie instalation pop-out windows saying //Your window manager was not one of the supported window managers. This window is to provide the same function as the Other Desktops menu.//
Any suggestion how to fix this?

• This reply was modified 4 months, 3 weeks ago by zilvinas.
• This reply was modified 4 months, 3 weeks ago by zilvinas.

[Member zilvinas]

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BobC wrote:

Just curious what was missing from all 5 antiX desktops and file manager choices that made you want to install the Budgie DE and use it instead? I ask that in case there might be things we could do to improve them for people.

Does the Budgie DE include wallpaper and a program to control changing the wallpaper? It might be that if you installed a base or full flavor of antiX that you could run antiX’s wallpaper changing program and it might work. The best bet would be to try it.

I haven’t tried installing the Budgie DE, myself. How it would work on top of an antiX system would depend on which version and flavor and possibly desktop of antiX you installed it onto. But you didn’t say, so I don’t know. There are posts at the top of the thread list that explain what info is needed and how to get it.

I need search option in menu so I can faster navigate trough my programs ant ability to add top bar for my favorite programs. Everything is fine out of box.
What do you have in mind then you said antiX flavors? You mean base net full ISO’S? I downloaded and installed FULL version of ISO, and tried DE (if I can say that) from menu bar but all these themes/de looks pretty similar. Also I don’t like folder manager. I was using Linux Mint for very long time so i prefer Nano look a like manager.

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[Moderator caprea]

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From your description I guess budgie needs lightdm as displaymanager and can’t work together with slimski(the default on antiX).You could try to install it.
It’s sure possible to get budgie running but I don’t know how much hope I should see here. Installing another desktop always requires some manual work and also tinkering.Other minor problems are sure to arise, and if you don’t like working them out, the best thing to do is to look at the window managers that are offered.

There’s an appfinder, should be one of the upper entries in the menu.
If you don’t like rox file-manager take a look at zzzfm,it’s in the menu > application >system

There’s also the antix transformation pack, called ft10-transformation, which gives a completely other look and feel.
Install ft10-transformation from synaptic > then Menu > Applications > Enable FT10 > choose Menu layout > mark what you like to be installed > Ok > reboot.

ft10-transformation is developed by PPC a member here in the forum, already much recommended and you are I think a candidate for it.

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[Moderator BobC]

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Ok, to get back to normal, press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace all at the same time. The login screen should come up. Press F1 until you see Sessiontype: rox-icewm at the bottom, then type your name, press enter, and type your password, and press enter again. Everything should be back to default antiX.

The search program you are looking for is called App Select. If you click the antiX menu button in the bottom left corner, or right click in an open area of the screen, the menu will come up and App Select is the 5th option down from the top. Another way to run it directly is to press Ctrl+Space at the same time, and App Select will pop up in a window. Type a few letters till the program you want appears and then Double click on it to run it.

The ft10-transformation pack changes the antiX standard interface to look and feel more like a Win/10 system, where you have a different file manager called zzzfm, and you double click instead of single click to run things, and you have a couple of different styles of menus available. Caprea gave install instructions above. The options to enable or disable will be on the antiX >> Applications >> Preferences menu after its installed.

[Member zilvinas]

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what means “zzz-” and “Rox-” in front of window managers name? 🙂
P.S. thank you both for help. I really need to understand how to operate properly in this great distro

[Member PPC]

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Side note: there are Desktop Environments that work with antiX, Gnome was tested by an user here, with good results. It seems Budgie does not, for now, work, out of the box, with antiX.
Like previously mentioned: If you want to change to a more familiar “desktop”, you can try installing my FT10 transformation pack (that works on top of all default floating window managers that antiX includes)- you can search for it here in the forum or check out it’s homepage and see if you thing you may like it: https://gitlab.com/antix-contribs/ft10-transformation/-/blob/main/README.md (there’s a video link about how to set it up).
PS: FT10 uses about the same system resources as the default antiX Desktop (rox-icewm, with volumeicon, conky, etc). Since you can disable volumeicon and conky and still have equivalent features in FT10’s taskbar, you can even save a couple of Mb of RAM, using it.

P.

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[Member zilvinas]

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caprea wrote:

From your description I guess budgie needs lightdm as displaymanager and can’t work together with slimski(the default on antiX).You could try to install it.
It’s sure possible to get budgie running but I don’t know how much hope I should see here. Installing another desktop always requires some manual work and also tinkering.Other minor problems are sure to arise, and if you don’t like working them out, the best thing to do is to look at the window managers that are offered.

There’s an appfinder, should be one of the upper entries in the menu.
If you don’t like rox file-manager take a look at zzzfm,it’s in the menu > application >system

There’s also the antix transformation pack, called ft10-transformation, which gives a completely other look and feel.
Install ft10-transformation from synaptic > then Menu > Applications > Enable FT10 > choose Menu layout > mark what you like to be installed > Ok > reboot.

ft10-transformation is developed by PPC a member here in the forum, already much recommended and you are I think a candidate for it.

Thanks! Its that I was searching!

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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If you really want Budgie desktop, you will have to install lightdm and set it as the default login manager.

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

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[Moderator BobC]

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I did get Budgie working by switching to lightdm as anticaptalista said. FYI it’s using about 400 mb at idle. It looks similar to ft10, but with the tray at the top.

[Member PPC]

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BobC wrote:

FYI it’s using about 400 mb at idle. It looks similar to ft10, but with the tray at the top.

(I don’t want to seem to be pushing for FT10- I only post this because, from this user’s posts, I’m assuming that what he really wants is a more similar interface to what he’s used to, not particularly “Budgie”… If I’m wrong in my my assumption, Moderators, please remove this post…)

Since FT10 was created to fit right into what users expect a modern desktop to look like, and it can also be easily configurable- if the user installs and then enables FT10, chooses the categories menu and then uses FT10’s GUI to put the toolbar on top part of the window ( Right Click the “+/-” toolbar icon > Select the position to change the toolbar position > select “Top” > click “Ok” ) I would say it provides a very similar interface (using about 50% of the RAM that Budgie uses). The user can select the preferred colors of the toolbar/menu, etc. IF the user really wants to, it’s easy to install “plank” dock from antiX’s Package Installer and run it- I’d say you get almost the same effect… for some extra 7-8Mb of RAM. If the user selects a nice dark IceWM theme, the end result is a “clone” of Budgie that uses about 200-210 Mb of RAM (extremely light, for such a D.E. like environment).

But… if the user really wants “Budgie”, it seems it can be done with just a few tweaks.

P.

• This reply was modified 4 months, 3 weeks ago by PPC.
• This reply was modified 4 months, 3 weeks ago by PPC.

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what means “zzz-” and “Rox-” in front of window managers name?

If you choose a zzz-* or a rox-* session, desktop icons will be available and ((( optional, you can choose to enable ))) right-clicking on the desktop will open a context menu containing available actions.

For the sessions without zzzfm or rox enabled to manage the desktop, no desktop icons will be available and right-clicking on the desktop will only cause the window manager’s “menu” to display. This possibility provides a session with lower memory overhead in case your system is strapped for RAM, or in case you consider the presence icons on the desktop to be annoying or distracting.

The min-* sessions further minimize memory overhead by ignoring / skipping launch of any programs listed in your session “startup” file. If you click the FAQ link shown in the forum header you can read more about what else is skipped ((( for instance, desktop wallpaper will not be loaded )))

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