can’t open file browser

[Member smallred]

hey there,
i manage more or less to fight myself through the terminal jungle with my half rotten computer, weak internet and low knowledge…
so my new problem that i dont manage to solve by myself is that the computer doesnt want to open the filebrowser anymore. it just turns up the vent to maximum and nothing happens. It hasnt been like that before!
sorry for my newbieness, tell me where i can find info that you need to diagnose… 😉

thx

[Member sybok]

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Hi,

the typical minimal input to tell us more about the system (HW and antiX version) is output of ‘inxi -Fxz’.
You may also post information about the most recent update (if it caused the issue), ‘/var/log/apt/history.log’ (must be opened as root).
1) vent at max.:
Is the computer inner part free from dust?
2) file-browser/manager:
2.A) You can browse files from terminal using the utility ‘mc’, (un)mount using terminal as well (at least in the meantime).
Also, some text/console-based web-browser can be used for the same task.
2.B) You could also try to reinstall the filebrowser.

Hopefully, someone will be able to help once you provide the inxi output.

• This reply was modified 11 months, 2 weeks ago by sybok. Reason: apt log added

[Member marcelocripe]

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Hello Smallred and Sybok.

I’ve seen this problem happen at least once with antiX 19.3 and 19.4. When I clicked on the shortcut icon on the file manager IceWM toolbar, the program would not open and the CPU fan had become stronger. The system monitor in the system tray kept showing the levels very high, similar to the levels when the same computer is browsing the internet on the YouTube site. I didn’t report this problem here on the forum, because I suspected hard drive problems. However, the file manager antiX main menu shortcut icon could open normally.

Smallred, I appreciate you creating this topic.

marcelocripe
(Original text in Portuguese language of Brazil)

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Olá Smallred e Sybok.

Eu já vi este problema acontecer ao menos uma vez com o antiX 19.3 e o 19.4. Quando eu clicava no ícone de atalho da barra de ferramentas do IceWM no gerenciador de arquivos, o programa não abria e ocorria de a ventilação ficar mais forte da ventoinha do processador. O monitor do sistema na badeja do sistema ficava exibindo os níveis muito alto, semelhante aos níveis de quando o mesmo computador está navegando na internet no sítio do YouTube. Eu não reportei este problemas aqui no fórum, porque eu desconfiava de problemas no disco rígido. Contudo, o ícone de atalho do menu principal do antiX do gerenciador de arquivos conseguia abrir normalmente.

Smallred, eu agradeço por você criar este tópico.

marcelocripe
(Texto original em idioma Português do Brasil)

[Moderator caprea]

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Hi smallred, you didn’t tell us which file browser you want to use.
You can start it from terminal and post the output here. So if you use rox-filer type
rox
or if you use zzzfm type
zzzfm

[Member marcelocripe]

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You can start it from terminal and post the output here.

Thank you, Caprea. If this problem happens to me again in the future, I will know what I should do to report the problem here.

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You can start it from terminal and post the output here.

Obrigado, Caprea. Se no futuro vir a acontecer este problema novamente comigo, eu saberei o que devo fazer para informar aqui sobre o problema.

[Member smallred]

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i used the filebrowser that is on the desktop, the one that is in the bar at the bottom and the one in the start-menu. all the same. each one I open adds more cpu percentage.

here the output:

System:
  Kernel: 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
  Desktop: IceWM 2.9.7 Distro: antiX-21_x64-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: AO722 v: V1.11 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Acer model: JE10-BZ serial: <filter> BIOS: Acer v: 1.11 
  date: 09/25/2012 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 33.5 Wh (94.1%) condition: 35.6/48.8 Wh (72.9%) 
  volts: 12.6 min: 11.1 model: Sanyo AL10B31 status: Charging 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: AMD C-60 APU with Radeon HD Graphics bits: 64 
  type: MCP arch: Bobcat rev: 0 cache: L2: 512 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 3990 
  Speed: 1191 MHz min/max: 800/1000 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 
  1: 1191 2: 1195 
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Wrestler [Radeon HD 6290] vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI 
  driver: radeon v: kernel bus-ID: 00:01.0 
  Device-2: Chicony 1.3M Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-1:2 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: ati,radeon 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: 
  renderer: AMD PALM (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp LLVM 11.0.1) 
  v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Wrestler HDMI Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:01.1 
  Device-2: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:14.2 
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes 
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8152 v2.0 Fast Ethernet 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: atl1c v: kernel port: 2000 
  bus-ID: 06:00.0 
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Foxconn 
  driver: ath9k v: kernel port: 2000 bus-ID: 07:00.0 
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 12.09 GiB (2.6%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS727550A9E364 size: 465.76 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 14.32 GiB used: 4.83 GiB (33.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
  ID-2: /home size: 439.12 GiB used: 7.26 GiB (1.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 3.91 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) 
  dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 58.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 57.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 126 Uptime: 1d 2h 50m Memory: 1.67 GiB used: 675.3 MiB (39.5%) 
  Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1633 
  Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.06

[Moderator caprea]

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OK, sounds like you are using rox-filer
So what happens if you type in terminal
rox
and enter to start the file browser from there. Does the terminal give any output?

[Moderator christophe]

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When I had a laptop with the AMD C60 cpu, I used a 4.x kernel. It worked well. So, when you boot up, try the “legacy” (4.9.x) kernel. Maybe that kernel will work better on your computer.

• This reply was modified 11 months, 2 weeks ago by christophe.
• This reply was modified 11 months, 2 weeks ago by christophe.

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[Moderator caprea]

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That’s true. I completely forgot about the kernel. Try the 4.9 kernel in the advanced options on the bootscreen and follow Christophs advice.

[Moderator BobC]

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This reminds me of my Pentium III.

I agree with the suggestions already made. Check the CPU temp (hover over the system monitor next to the clock). Check the cooling if the temp is high. Is the CPU load running very high when this happens?

If CPU is heavily loaded a lot, you could run a window with htop sorted by CPU percentage to find out what program is the culprit. My first guess would be web browser, but yes, it could be the file manager.

Anyway, if the other ideas don’t fix it, since its not a very fast CPU, and maybe just run lighter apps. The solution for mine was to ask it to do less so it didn’t get overloaded.

For a file manager on a slow machine, I too like Midnight Commander (mc). Try it or another very light (probably terminal based) file manager. You can search the internet for lightweight linux file manager to get ideas. If you find one you like, change the default file manager to it. You can always run rox or zzzfm when you need to.

[Member smallred]

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So the other krnel doest make any visible difference. But the rox in terminal opens the rox filebrowser. just that I dont like it because it does not have the overview on the left side. No idea how to access external drives with that… I changed at some point the standart app for filebrowsing to another one.

now i learn how to use the rox properly or I get the other one running.

[Moderator BobC]

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It sounds like you would be happier with zzzfm as your file manager. Try it, and if you like it, make it your default file manager.

[Moderator caprea]

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Go to
menu > control-centre > desktop > Preferred Applications
Click on the file-manager button. In the opening “select file” window click on the “applications” button on top.
Now you can scroll down and open the zzzfm.desktop

This should solve the problem with the menu and taskbar buttons for the file-manager

[Member smallred]

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yaay works really good, thx!!

[Member marcelocripe]

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Smallred, if the “problem” was resolved with Caprea’s explanation, then I recommend you read these excellent tutorials created by @PPC:

What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.
How to: correctly use antiX forum.

When I first started using antiX, I read the tutorials that PPC created, these readings saved me a lot of time and I think it saves time for any new antiX user. Your time will not be wasted with these readings, everything will seem to be much easier than you could imagine. You won’t waste your time searching the internet or even creating new topics, on the contrary, you will gain a lot of time with these readings.

I recommend you try out desktops that have “zzz” in their name. I usually use zzz-IceWM or zzz-JWM or zzz-Fluxbox (each of these desktops has its own characteristics and consumes more or less resources), zzzFM will be the default file manager for your desktop, it it is very similar to the other file managers of other GNU/Linux distributions and Windows XP. To access other antiX workspaces, click on Menu, Desktop, Other Desktops and click on the workspace name, instantly the workspace will be loaded.

Whenever you need to ask for help or technical support, post the output of the terminal command $ inxi -Fxz, copy and paste here in the message of the topic you are going to create in this forum.

When you start a topic or participate with a post, remember to check the option “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, by checking this option, you will receive a message in your email box whenever there are replies from topic in question.

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Smallred, se o “problema” foi resolvido com a explicação do Caprea, então eu recomendo você ler estes excelentes tutoriais criados pelo @PPC:

What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.
How to: correctly use antiX forum.

Quando eu comecei a utilizar o antiX, eu li os tutoriais que o PPC criou, estas leituras me pouparam muito do meu tempo e acho que poupa o tempo de qualquer novo usuário do antiX. O seu tempo não será perdido com estas leituras, tudo parecerá ser muito mais fácil do que você poderia imaginar. Você não perderá o seu tempo com pesquisas na internet ou até mesmo em criar novos tópicos, ao contrário, você ganhará muito tempo com estas leituras.

Eu recomendo você experimentar as áreas de trabalho que possuem “zzz” em seu nome. Eu costumo utilizar o zzz-IceWM ou zzz-JWM ou zzz-Fluxbox (cada uma destas áreas de trabalho possuem características próprias e consomem mais ou menos recursos), o zzzFM será o gerenciador de arquivos padrão da sua área de trabalho, ele é muito semelhante aos outros gerenciadores de arquivos das outras distribuições GNU/Linux e do Windows XP. Para acessar as outras áreas de trabalho do antiX, clique no Menu, Área de Trabalho, Alternar Entre as Áreas de Trabalho e clique sobre o nome da área de trabalho, instantaneamente a área de trabalho será carregada.

Sempre que você precisar solicitar ajuda ou suporte técnico, poste o resultado do comando do terminal $ inxi -Fxz, copie e cole aqui na mensagem do tópico que você for criar neste fórum.

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