Connman wireless not working in antiX 19.1 Full 32-bit

[Anonymous]

Helpful

Up

0

::

I never thought of trying the symlink on connman, Moddlt (sorry, I just noticed that I had been spelling your ID wrong. Sorry again)
I’ll try that shortly.

It reminds me. Is this only 32-bit? Has anyone with 64 bit antiX v19 reported any wireless issues?

Hope your rotavirus is getting better. I am on antibiotics, puffer and cough medicine now – should be right as rain in a few days.
Take care
Glady

[Anonymous]

Helpful

Up

0

::

Hi Moddlt,
Sorry no, the symlink doesn’t help.
I started an antiX19.1 live session on DVD, went into terminal, ran the above command to create the symlink
It gave me an error that the file already exists.
I ran the command with “sudo ln -sf…” to force the overwrite and it accepted it.
Started connman through the menus, turned wifi on, clicked on my network, entered my password, and got the same errors I got before (“Agent request failed before a reply was returned” and “Connman returned the following error: connect-failed”

Oh, well. It was worth a try.
Thanks for the idea
🙂
G

[Member ModdIt]

Helpful

Up

0

::

I did get a user saying 64 bit was not connecting, he still has an annoyance card though. Bcom, that may be another story.
See if anyone comes up with why connman is not working. One day the upgrading will have to start.

Antibiotics: Different theme.

[Anonymous]

Helpful

Up

0

::

Hi Moddlt,
Newbie question here: is there a lot of difference between antiX 19.1 64 bit and antiX 19.1 32 bit, other than the kernel version?

Would connman file structure and symlinks be the same in the 64 bit and the 32 bit?

I can try a live session of antiX 19.1 64 bit on a newer notebook, try connecting to this same network, if that would help.
Thanks
G

[Member ModdIt]

Helpful

Up

0

::

Hi gf, Newbie question here: is there a lot of difference between antiX 19.1 64 bit and antiX 19.1 32 bit, other than the kernel version?.

Maybe anti is the one to ask but he may be very busy. Also a question is differences to MX which has worked when tested, just too heavy for our older devices.

I have to admit that without your questions I would have done the same as I think many have done.tried Antix 19, could not connect maybe looked in the forum, saw the long thread then installed another distro, or stayed on 17.4
which gets the job done.
Would miss Antix tools but at home with Arch based as well as deb.

In a few weeks I will be in Vietnam, wanted to take a system with me that can replace XP. In much of asia win 7 is modern. The VN Government is complaining about cost of replacing. Maybe china will jump in with their linux, I just think it is too heavy for many. Many could use Linux but it must be easy, Vietnamese, Chinese, Cambodian and Dbus Unikey have to work immediately. I speak none of those, my Vietnamese family (I sort of foster them) and friends need all of those, sometimes Thai and Malaysian, Indonesian on top. Very interesting.

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

Helpful

Up

0

::

Great questions about the variety of antiX distributions and the inconsistent behavior of the connman network tool. Too bad it’s not a universally applicable tool.

Many of who have been around for a long time have had great success with both Ceni and wicd over the years. Unfortunately wicd (unless I am mistaken) hasn’t been maintained by the original development team in recent years, nor has Ceni, to my knowledge. We try to use packages that do not use library packages that require systems software, or Gtk3 libraries either. That can be a restraining factor. On one hand it would be wonderful to put an easy modern interfere on the Ceni or wicd network management tools. Maybe we will, but then it’s necessary to support it ourselves. Unless we get a helping hand, either within the team or someone else with free software experience, that is wishful thinking.

That’s one reason why we are stuck with this situation. If I had better development and maintenance skills (and free time) I’d gladly volunteer. Best I can do today is promote, encourage and support others and share ideas.

--
Brian Masinick

[Anonymous]

Helpful

Up

0

::

Hi Brian,
Thanks for answering.
Since you are a moderator, should I create a new topic for just the workaround steps so anyone else who has wireless problems, doesn’t have to leaf through pages of ideas tries here in this thread?

And thanks for the background on ceni and wicd. Can you tell me what network manager is used in MX? Does it need systemd or anything that antiX doesn’t have? It worked just fine for me.

Thanks again for joining our conversation here. : )
G

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

Helpful

Up

0

::

No need to make a new topic, though if you choose to do so, make it a HOWTO or a tip topic.

I believe that MX is using either wicd or network manager, but I will have to check to be certain. Ceni, wicd, and network manager have been available recently.

--
Brian Masinick

[Member semicynic]

Helpful

Up

0

::

@moddit, gf, and anyone else using 1024×600 screen as early netbooks such as ASUS eeepc have

On 2020 Jan 16, I posted how to use command line to connect to wifi router using connman.

I now have GUI connman working and I do feel stupid for not realizing the solution earlier.

Agent asking for passphrase screen does not show all it should on a 1024×600 screen.

In particular, it didn’t show the options “OK” and “cancel”. It hung after entering passphrase because I couldn’t see the required selections. Tabbing as someone suggested could select either choice if one didn’t count tabs correctly. That was confusing. But we don’t have to tab.

Use <alt><F7> and can use hand cursor to move passphrase screen up to see the bottom choices and just click on OK.

People with newer hardware that showed WHOLE passphrase screen didn’t have this problem with connman,

So use it either through CLI or GUI, your choice.

[Member ModdIt]

Helpful

Up

0

::

Hi semicynic, thanks for the info. More important question now is if this works for all, (I am sceptical) getting the connman window size reduced and out as an update.
I am no longer using it so it might be better if you follow up apart from the fact I have no weight in the debian world.. Maintainer is Alexander Sack asac@debian.org Maybe you could mail anti a screenshot and explain the issue.

My (limited but dismal) experience with debian maintainers sent me to arch and Manjaro some years ago. I only moved back because of antix not having D which makes me vomit.

[Member ModdIt]

Helpful

Up

0

::

@gf you ask: Can you tell me what network manager is used in MX? Does it need systemd or anything that antiX doesn’t have? It worked just fine for me.

Please just surf over to MX and have a read, answers to that not really relevant here although I think answered in some replies same thread. Easy to find too.
Post like that on most distros you will get rtfm as answer as the impression created is you are lazy and bad mannered. Not good.

@masinik, Hallo Brian, would it be possible to add a HOW TO main Line in forum, it would concentrate information in one place, also possibily facilitate additions to user Manual. All newer users and many not so new find using the forum to search for help and info on a concrete subject a pig.
Other nice to have would be having the information from the Antix Subforum in MX either shown or referenced, my guess is most users will not even think that such exists.

[Moderator caprea]

Helpful

Up

0

::

ModdIt wrote:

or is there another logical explanation

To be honest, I don’t even see a logical explanation why the first symlinnk for gf doesn’t work after a reboot, whereas it always worked fine for me on my tests.
The reason for the change was that the run folder in etc/resolvconf/run is already a symlink to run/resolvconf/resolv.conf.
Nice that it now also works after rebooting.

gf, you can now use ceni or wicd on antix19 without having to make the symlink or the settings new after every reboot.
I would also have preferred to find out why connman does not work for you, because I don’t like to give up and the network software should just work in antiX. But sometimes you just go around in circles and patience is needed and a solution will come easily later.
The network-software used in MX is called network-manager.You can install it on antiX by installing network-manager and network-manager-gnome.You can then start it with nm-applet from terminal, which will put an applet in the toolbar, from where you can access the GUI. You can also add nm-applet & to your startup-script in .desktop-session, to make it autostart at boot. A symlink should not be necessary with network-manager.
I personally don’t see any advantage over wicd or ceni, it just needs more resources

semicynic, thanks for bringing this problem to attention again.
I now remember that someone has already reported it and its solution was to install the former connman-gtk instead of cmst, which was then capable of displaying the complete connman-GUI on the 1024×600 screen.

[Anonymous]

Helpful

Up

0

::

Hi Caprea,
I am happy to keep poking away at the connman issue here with you. Willing to reinstall antiX as often as needed to get connman fixed. Happy to help.

I enquired about MXs wifi manager as I thought MX and antiX were built by the same team of people and that the two distros may use some of the same structure in the background. I meant no offense. I apologise.

I would like to install MXs wifi manager in a fresh copy of antiX just to see if I get the same errors as I do in connman.

Brian, I am a newbie and unsire how to make a HowTo. More step by step details please.

: )
G

[Member ModdIt]

Helpful

Up

0

::

Hallo gf, nobody saying you offended anybody, just trying to give a gentle nudge so you wont get flamed on other linux forums.
and caprea, thanks for help and info. Could we please check if both the sticking symlink caprea and the failing one gf were created in exactly the same way. I have a sneaking feeling there might be some logic hidden there.

@gf if you wish we can do a howto together, not really difficult says one who has a lot of experience writing work plans. Just need to get things so our nightmare user can cope.
K..
if she can be successful anybody can do it.

[Anonymous]

Helpful

Up

0

::

Hi Caprea,
Oh, well. I was not able to get the “network-manager” application to work in antiX 19.1, running live on a DVD.
It was worth a try.
: )
G

[Author]

Posts