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PDP-8
Good to be back. Loving the new AntiX-21 !
On a lark, thought I would skip using Etcher, Rufus, dd and the like and see if I could create a bootable Anti-X from within windows without those tools and use just copy n paste. And boot it on a strict uefi-only box.
(Actually I should have named this drag-n-drop !)
Check it out:
1) Insert a fresh fat32 stick out of the packaging as your target to put antix on.
2) Download the antix iso. I used the base version.
3) Double-click the iso and windows will automount it.
4) In one fell swoop, drag and drop all the files and folders from the iso to your stick.
5) EJECT the stick nicely, and then Reboot or pop into a different machine.Done. Of course I’m going to use the live-usb maker within antix itself for full featured persistence and so forth, but at least this gets you up and running.
Pretty pleased that this works.
- This topic was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by PDP-8.
- This topic was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by PDP-8.
Brian Masinick
@PDP-8: that’s cool!
Quite often I simply use dd to create sticks, though lately I have used mostly the Live USB Maker from either antiX or MX Linux.
Being a true geek, I always enjoy reading about more ways to accomplish the same task. Sometimes it doesn’t matter but every now and then someone stumbles onto a new way to do things. In the best case we come out with completely new creations, so I always encourage experimenting!
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Brian MasinickWell, it’s not really new. Gparted Live, Porteus, and a few other utilities have the same installation method. So I thought I’d try it with AntiX.
In those projects, the iso (or zip) file contains both a linux shell script and a windows exe “install” file for convenience to run afterwards. But that step is NOT needed on modern machines. A simple drag and drop will do.
On older machines, if your system doesn’t boot with just the drag and drop, THEN you try again running the included installers which I assume write/modify grub or syslinux.
Porteus kind of tipped me off to that in their own docs, whereas some of the others that use this same method don’t make this clear, and the *assumption* is that you *have* to use those installer scripts. Not so for modern rigs. At least not the little pile I test them on.
Outside of windows, I tested AntiX using the SpaceFM file manager, which loop mounts isos for you. I did a similar quick drag n drop to make another stick.
Even wilder, is that I drag n dropped to a spare fat32/vfat hard-drive with spinning rust, and that worked as well for a frugal initial install – albeit I like to use AntiX’ own utilities for that to get all the options I want.
So SCORE for the modern uefi boxes! 🙂 No need for those included “installer” shell scripts or exe steps.
Brian Masinick
I have to admit, though I know how to create media through a variety of ways, ranging from the ancient cpio and dd to the more recent Live USB Maker, I obviously do not know ALL of the ways to do it; with appropriate access you can do it all kinds of ways; even a short program could take care of it.
Even though they may be useful on other platforms, I’m not a fan of Etcher personally, nor am I a fan of Rufus; if that’s all I have, I’ll grab a CD or a USB stick with a small Linux on it that has dd, and use it, but since our latest images have the Live USB Maker, I’ve found that to be a very simple and reliable way, plus it allows us to take full advantages of our distribution from USB.
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Brian MasinickSure enough. Note that this simple drag-n-drop did not work on core. For that I used dd (or any other gui variant).
This would probably work on MX too, but I haven’t tried it.
Note that this tip is working on very modern UEFI-ONLY machines very well with base. Not sure it would work on older bios or legacy machines without a special exe or shell file like Gparted Live uses.
To be sure, this is NOT an approved install method – only that it works for me to make that initial stick from which I use the onboard tools to really do a good job with all the desired options on another for my “working” AntiX environment.
Anonymous
To be sure, this is NOT an approved install method
Thanks for underscoring that point.
A few sentences explaining “why so” from you or from others will benefit future readers.- This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by Brian Masinick. Reason: Skidoo, one of the latest posts
Then you’ll love this – unsupported but worth a try – with nothing but a stock Chromebook:
(Not FOR the Chromebook, but merely using it as a burning tool with default tools it has, for a separate target machine in the corner … hint – it’s a glorified dd)
Download the AntiX iso.
Rename the iso file so that the suffix is “.img”
Use the Chromebook recovery tool, but instead of going online, use the cog icon to get to to the tools to point to the locally downloaded antix and renamed img suffix file.
Create the “recovery” stick. Which won’t boot your Chromebook, but will boot your other target x86/X86_64 machine you have stashed for your project.
Admittedly this would be a rare environment, but these days, it is quite possible that someone may only have a chromebook and could get them out of a jam if that’s all they have to burn.
Brian Masinick
We have a couple of Chromebook systems in our home; good chance that if we’re traveling that might be what we are carrying, along with 1-2 Android phones!
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Brian MasinickModdIt
Thanks PDP8,
very useful info where modern machines are available, further method. New Post as OT here.https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/create-live-media-with-smartphone-successful/#post-79573
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