Could anyone please briefly outline process from SID Core to SID Base

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I am trying to nail down the issue… Installed now from Sysvinit SID ISO for comparison. However have to wait for updates as Debian Unstable InRelease is not valid for another 3 hours…

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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After I installed Firefox-ESR, I created an .iso and uploaded it. Base does not include Firefox-ESR and I needed that to upload to the website.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/l114h9f0ht4qrmp/antiX-22-runit-sid_x64-base-ff-bc20221202.iso/file
https://www.mediafire.com/file/kegf4pyzounzogf/antiX-22-runit-sid_x64-base-ff-bc20221202.iso.md5/file

I did not try doing a full upgrade yet :). I am afraid it might break it.

PS: I ran the upgrade afterwards and firmware-atheros fails decompression causing a dpkg error. Otherwise it went ok.

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Reporting progress. Or rather the lack of it:
– Installed Sysvinit version of SID ISO and performed dist-upgrade as before
– Installed basic components following the same process as outlined above by @Christophe.

Result: Execution of startx results in the same failure as for Runit version of SID Core ISO.
Looks like I am still missing something to get over this hurdle. The good news is that there seems no difference between behavior of Sysvinit and Runit. Both result in the same failure following the same install sequence.
Therefore it must be something missing, step I still need to get over this hurdle.
Both were installed on the same model machines – Thinkpad X61. It could be something related to this machine model too. I will try on a different model machine, just to nail down this…
In the interim I want to thank for all the helpful advice I received. It is a learning process for me…

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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BobC wrote:

After I installed Firefox-ESR, I created an .iso and uploaded it.

Thank you BobC. I will download your ISO shortly and install. This will hopefully shed some light what I am missing in my install process from the current distribution SID ISOs…

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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I don’t know about OLD Thinkpad support today but these models ALWAYS worked well with Linux when they were younger.

FWIW I have a Thinkpad X201.
When I got it the unit was functional but BARELY working with the original software on it.

I put antix on it. No racehorse today but it definitely still works with antix.

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But if you are doing it all by hand, will you really end up with “base” unless you add exactly all the packages base would contain?

I’m not saying what you are doing isn’t a neat idea, just that I wouldn’t expect to end up with a system like the base iso you would expect to get.

Maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to end up with…

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olsztyn wrote:

BobC wrote:

After I installed Firefox-ESR, I created an .iso and uploaded it.

Thank you BobC. I will download your ISO shortly and install. This will hopefully shed some light what I am missing in my install process from the current distribution SID ISOs…

Please look at the packagecomp so you can see that I’m literally figuring out what packages are missing from the one system to the other, and adding all the missing ones in my attempt to duplicate the system, but with the newer sid apps…

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BobC wrote:

Please look at the packagecomp so you can see that I’m literally figuring out what packages are missing from the one system to the other, and adding all the missing ones in my attempt to duplicate the system, but with the newer sid apps…

Thanks again @BobC…
I downloaded your SID ISO. Thank you for sharing.
Now this gets really interesting:
– This ISO (SID Runit) fails to boot on my both machines I was using for SID (Thinkpad X61) but boots fine on Thinkpad T410. Failure to boot on my X61 machines appears referring to some segmentation fault but the screen flashes quickly due to apparent re-trying so I am not able to notice the exact wording of the message. Looks like my issues were possibly related to this hardware as well…
– The fact it boots fine on Thinkpad T410 machine makes it good for me to work from there. Looks like lots of groundwork you have done to make it a great Base approximation. I will look at your packagecomp later to figure out next steps.

I will try to figure out the issues with booting on the older X61 machines, but in the interim:
How did you originally set up this Live SID? Did you start from Core ISO as published by anticapitalista and installed packages to arrive at Base or you upgraded originally to SID by switching repositories from stable to sid? I see that at this time there are 131 packages due to upgrade…

In any case thanks much for sharing. This seems good representation of SID base. I will try to identify issues with boot on X61 machines as a separate project. The important thing is that it boots on Thinkpad T410 and I will test Thinkpad T520 and X220 shortly. I could not easily recreate the ISOs I was using on Thinkpad T410 for comparison because I was using traditional installation rather than Live as yours. Live makes it easier to test on multiple machines…

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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Yes, its based on anticaptialista’s sid runit 64 core, and then building that into base.

Its ok to update the 131. As noted above there was one failed package in the 131.

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@BobC:

I tried your image.
I can use it to boot existing distros; some of the logic works. However on my HP-14, 1) the stuff on the boot loader has a really big font and 2) though a few of the startup tools work, if I actually boot the image I get about halfway through the boot logic and then the boot procedure goes nuts dumping EE error messages.

Verified the checksum and even reloaded the image. Unfortunately I got the same results. This image doesn’t work at least not on the HP-14. I’ll try another system later.

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On the Dell m2400 the only problem i had running it so far was the boot options stuff when i booted from USB. I noticed that many of the 131 updates were firmware, btw.

You don’t have an atheros adapter, do you? See previous message, that firmware package was corrupt, so even if I redo the iso, it wouldn’t be there.

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My HP-14 has Intel WiFi, an AMD 5500U processor – the full specs are in some recent posts in the topic “What are you “here” with today?”
I also tried booting the Sid image currently available. That one won’t work past boot because the kernels are too old to support the HP-14 hardware.

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Brian,

I got the firmware issues resolved.

If you want me to add a newer kernel to it, just let me know which one would be best to try.

Maybe I should be trying it with full because I won’t have enough web space for both? I don’t actually use base myself except for the old Pentium II I kept for testing.

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Could you please add a kernel of a very late V5 kernel or a v6 kernel?
My hardware on the HP needs 5.18 or later to work well.

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Liquorix and xanmod1 have kernels that have been working great for me on antix 22

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