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      Hi lads i just turned to antiX after using LXLE and the difference in speed and ease of use is astounding!

      But i do have one major problem,
      i have an old Pentium (3) M laptop which runs at 2.13ghz (it is a single core) and for some reason the frequency no matter the load is always stuck at 800 as you can see on the attached images.
      On another pc in which i used the live usb (pentium D the frequency shown was that of the cpu)

      I can really use the extra speed the cpu holds me back ,so does anyone have any idea how to make the cpu operate at its peak frequency?
      Thanks again to anyone who may reply!

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        Conky and lspcu are not suited for your “problem”
        The commands are more telling:

        sudo dmidecode -t 4
        and
        $ cpufreq-info

        1. show the terminal output as user of
        $ grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
        2. open a second terminal and give this endless loop
        $ while :; do :; done
        execute in 1 again the 1st command. What value do you see?
        End the endless loop with Ctrl+c

        and, since you are from the GDR, you should read this (especially then the ”command line”)

        I URGE CAUTION!

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          Hello male and thanks a lot for your answer!
          Well i loaded up the cpu with the do loop and both commands displayed same data as when idle,i link the screenshots.
          Do you suggest i know have to do clocking and governor stuff from the link?
          If so please send an english link if there is one because my german is a bit rusty so i can be 100% sure of my actions.

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            hi ddr,

            also try checking in the bios settings for anything to. my old dell laptop has
            a few settings for intel cpu stepping. I’ll hook it up later and post exactly
            what it’s called. it has the same cpu as yours and the speed changes on
            demand.

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              Ok now things are going deep!
              I dualboot to windows xp (i have them because they run much better than 7 and LXLE linux i had),so i go there and see using multiple utilities that even in windows the core clock is stuck at 800.
              I checked the bios and i see nothing that is cpu step related,i attach pics(it cant attach the last pic the power tab,but it just says long batterty life mode and i have it disabled)
              What the heck is going on!?

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                ok … I’m not seeing it there. It would say Intel speedstep.

                check the current linux governor by typing in a terminal

                cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor

                you could try changing the linux governor setting to performance by
                typing

                echo performance | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor

                in the terminal. might have to reboot to take effect.

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                  Hi, dig deeper you say, I assume you measured on Power supply plugged in system. If your power supply is non original or has failing capacitors you might not have enough power to run cpu at full speed.

                  Amilio tends to run hot at the best of times, processor throttling is to avoid damage in that case and likely to be your issue. If you try to force cpu speed and cooling is insufficient you might fry the cpu, I am not sure how well the temp throttling works.
                  carefully clean cooling system. Make sure the fan is cleaned of all dust spiders web etc. Please do not use compressed air for that at first, use a soft brush then from a distance gently blow away loosened dirt in to the waiting vacuum cleaner, DO not let the fan spin up to crazy speed. Check it is working after clean.
                  Replace cooling paste or pad on cpu with something like Arctic silver.
                  If you are not confident with that work and have nobody around to help you local repair shop may be a safer bet, they also know how to avoid static damage. Should anyway.. May be a howto on you tube for your model, manual online help too. Be careful with screws, put them back in same place if lengths vary which is common. Put in wrong place can cause massive damage.

                  Replace board battery while case is open.
                  Amilio is a pretty good device so I would consider it worth the trouble.

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                    if the first command says no such file or directory then it don’t
                    support cpu scaling. I just checked and my celeron M laptop with
                    antiX-19.2 don’t have the file.

                    If happening in windows and linux …. sounds like hardware issues
                    like moddIt mentioned.

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                      Thanks for the replies lads,
                      first linuxdad sadly it says:
                      cat: ‘/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor’: No such file or directory

                      Any other way to remove governor?

                      Secondly moddit it you are right this laptop is worth it it has the best keyboard i have typed on for one.I have cleaned it thoroughly as u described the fun and cooling system changed the paste too.The laptop in general runs very cool a friend of mine has an amilo 15something and it runs much much hoter his is hot mine is just barely warm to the touch on the low right corner so i think it can handle a lot more heat.
                      Also yes i run it on the power plug.
                      Now about the powersupply i scavenged the laptop 2 years ago when a friend wanted to throw it because it is “too old” so i don’t know if the power supply is original but it is fujitsu and outputs 20V and 4.5A
                      Also about board battery i had replaced it too but weirdly enough the internal time clock has reset 2 times last year.

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                        Thanks for the replies lads,
                        first linuxdad sadly it says:
                        cat: ‘/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor’: No such file or directory

                        Any other way to remove governor?

                        Secondly moddit it you are right this laptop is worth it it has the best keyboard i have typed on for one.I have cleaned it thoroughly as u described the fun and cooling system changed the paste too.The laptop in general runs very cool a friend of mine has an amilo 15something and it runs much much hoter his is hot mine is just barely warm to the touch on the low right corner so i think it can handle a lot more heat.
                        Also yes i run it on the power plug.
                        Now about the powersupply i scavenged the laptop 2 years ago when a friend wanted to throw it because it is “too old” so i don’t know if the power supply is original but it is fujitsu and outputs 20V and 4.5A
                        Also about board battery i had replaced it too but weirdly enough the internal time clock has reset 2 times last year.

                        Edit added picture of power brick

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                          Linuxdad since your’s too dosen’t have the file and it dosen’t support scaling what does the cpu normally do?always runs at max clock?

                          About it being hardware i am not too sure , last year i used 4 different random power bricks besides the one i have on the picture and didn’t see any responsiveness difference statistically one of them should be right if my current one isn’t šŸ˜›
                          (but i had not checked Freq first time i noticed now with conky on my face).
                          Also i have been googling today and found that people with other laptops had em stuck at 800 and unlocked it with some windows app(i downloaded said app but i didn’t figure out what i was supposed to change to have any difference but there may be a way on linux to remove the govenor)

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                            Overclocking tools in Linux

                            Ok, technically Linux has nothing to do with overclocking. Most of hyperparameter tuning is on the BIOS side. However there is a significant difference for the operator depending on the OS he/she uses. There is a plethora of monitoring and benchmarking tools for Windows, and all the reviews on popular web sites are using them to show whatever results they get. You simply don’t have this kind of choice under Linux, and it makes the operator’s job somewhat more difficult, especially on the monitoring side.

                            I’ll cover here the tools I checked out and used.

                            He mentions deliding or scalping a CPU. This might sound scary but I managed it despite the fact that Parkinson’s Disease causes my left hand to shake so you can do it too.

                            ā€œThese are the times that try men's souls" - Thomas Paine

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                              my compaq presario 2200 has the celeron-M 1.4ghz and is always at max. I
                              have a dell d610 that has the pentium-M 2.13ghz like yours.

                              my d610 has the file in a different place …. look in

                              /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0

                              folder for the scaling_governor file to edit as root and change
                              ondemand to performance.
                              you don’t need to restart after changing it.

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                                you need to have the package
                                cpufrequtils
                                also …. not sure if it is on the iso or not

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                                  Linuxdad the file remains elusive still,
                                  the directory exists but it is empty no policies at all, also yes cpufrequtils was installed.What if we write a file to put there will it take prescience and work?Where else could it be?

                                  VW interesting post i tried the cpupower method by installing the package and running the command but it failed and it lists many possible reasons that i dont full understand eg(Is the governor you requested available and modprobed)
                                  About deliding, i am not scared to do it.I know a meaningful amount about pc internals, i have repaired half a dozen but at least yet it is not necessary, the pc is cold, barely warm to the touch i cannot believe thermal throttling to be the issue,i have touched hot pcs and this one isn’t even close.
                                  I will test the other tools from the link later tonight.

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