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  • #22102
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      Thanks noClue! Wish there was a way to make the taskbar transparent though. Doesn’t seem like there’s a way.
      I think your pic in post #21933 was your attempt to make it transparent, correct?

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        Correct.

        Transparency and usability …

        You would always want to make the most important information the most obvious.
        For usability purposes, UI elements shouldn’t be transparent at all.
        They would make them much easier to find or read.

        This leads us to: the only good transparency is very dark + opaque.
        That gives some ‘eye-candy’ but, not necessarily the advantage.
        However, it brings a huge disadvantage — resources usage.

        Transparency is ultimate usability nightmare.
        That’s more or less, the direct opposite of usability.
        https://www.usability.gov/what-and-why/user-interface-design.html

        Manjaro OpenBox is greatest example of (un)Usability ever.
        Polybar, Tint2, OBMenu, JGMenu, Compton …
        Over 650 MB RAM worth ‘goodness’.

        Which Terminals you’d rather use all day long, day after day?

        BUT … everybody is free to make whatever he/she wants out of their desktops, as long as somebody doesn’t set such accident as a default setting.

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          Wish there was a way to make the taskbar transparent

          Instead, you could set, in the icewm prefs:
          ShowTaskBar=0

          and install an alternative, e.g. “stalonetray” or “fbpanel” or “tint2”

          can review some sample screenshots of fbpanel here: .
          (you can run multiple fbpanel instances concurrently, docked to whichever screen edges you prefer)

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            hi skidoo,

            good link for fbpanel…haven’t messed with it much but
            seems pretty light and configurable.
            Your link above is only a dot and hard to find.
            https://aanatoly.github.io/fbpanel/shots.html
            here it is for anyone who is interested.

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              sorry that was supposed to be another thread!!

              • This reply was modified 3 years, 11 months ago by kaye.
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                Just curious about this, you can try it if you want. Make <any_theme> your currently selected theme.

                1. Go to /usr/share/icewm/themes/<any_theme>/taskbar

                2. Rename taskbarbg.xpm to something else, may be taskbarbg-orig.xpm , so that it would not be detected, because we will turn the taskbar color to a solid color.

                3. Edit /usr/share/icewm/themes/<any_theme>/default.theme

                Add or edit this line:
                ColorDefaultTaskBar=”#ff0000″
                Click Menu -> Logout -> Restart Session
                That will turn the taskbar to solid red.

                Notice that you probably have a line there that reads:
                ColorClock=””
                I guess that means your clock has a transparent background, and since our taskbar is now solid red, that means the clock’s background ALSO looks solid red.

                Now add or edit this line:
                ColorClock=”#ffffff”
                Click Menu -> Logout -> Restart Session
                Now you see that the clock has a white background, and the taskbar remains solid red.

                What I’m getting at is this:
                If ColorClock=”” makes the clock’s background transparent, why does NOT ColorDefaultTaskBar=”” make the taskbar transparent? It only makes it black.

                Thanks

                • This reply was modified 3 years, 11 months ago by kaye.
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                  @Kaye: put in the simplest way I can: because absence of color is “black”, not transparent 🙂

                  P.

                  #22257
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                    I don’t need to try it; I know that IceWM supports … hmmm … ‘some kind of transparency’ but, it may be, it just got too old to do it properly.

                    Watch VERY CAREFULLY what happens with a ‘close window cross’ on the following screenshots.

                    (Marked very thin & pale, so it doesn’t disturb — watch 1:1!)

                    That ‘cross’ should appear only on ‘mouseover’ and it should appear close to top-right corner.

                    On the 1st screenshot, it does that correctly on ‘Geany’ but not on ‘Rox’.

                    On the 2nd screenshot the cross is moved/shifted to left.

                    On the 3rd screenshot …

                    Well, compare the same spot very carefully in the 1st and in the 3rd screenshot. 🙂 It’s still the same spot!

                    Also, in the 1st screenshot, the gray line ends before the end BUT, on the 2nd screenshot, it didn’t do the same with ‘Geany’s border.

                    ‘IceWM mistery show’ 😉

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