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      My apologies for being pushy, but moderators/admins have closed for comments the original Cyberpunk in “anti-COVID vaccines” thread.
      This subforum is “A place to discuss non-linux stuff including politics.” A healthy discussion was going on, several members expressed their opinions, all decent. I request that the original thread be reopened for comments and these two threads are merged.

      My original post:

      21 minutes video by doctor Carrie Madej:
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      The touted “anti-COVID vaccine” is of a novel type, unlike any existing vaccines, and is about to:
      make you genetically modified with patented sequences, and thus make (parts of) your genome patented (= make you owned)
      inject nano-robotics, capable of AI (= Artificial Intelligence) thus connecting you to IoB (= Internet of Bodies) and making you controllable
      put an ID on you

      Do your own research

      My replies to 5 users’ posts:

      debunked by the BBC

      Not a single disproof fact and a groundless claim of an official there
      fingers crossed
      or the sole words “debunked” and “false” suffice for you, anticapitalista?

      Bill and his BBC bill:
      contagious bill gates

      These vaccines are NOT of a novel type; they are small modifications to generic vaccines that were developed in 2002.

      “mRNA vaccines take a novel approach that has never been licensed for human use.”
      “The details that Moderna presented suggest that the company may be on its way to achieving something unprecedented: licensing the first mRNA vaccine for human use.”


      A joke, please amend my wording if you know more appropriate one:
      — How can 3 programmers make a living?
      — The first one writes viruses; the second — antiviruses; the third — operating systems under which all this stuff works.
      Hint: apply it to the picture with Bill above, expand it beyond programming.

      A joke, please amend my wording if you know more appropriate one:
      A man comes home unexpectedly to catch his wife in their marital bed with a lover. She says:
      — So you choose to believe your eyes over your own wife’s words?

      IT-corporations, vaccine producers, mass-media, the governments, official medicine are ultimately subordinate to the same corporatocracy-owners corruption ring. The populace undergoes the enormous tonnage of propaganda.

      “CIA Operation Mockingbird is Alive and Well”
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      “agencies are to quash vaccine hesitancy”; ““cyber war” to be commanded by AI-powered arbiters of truth against information sources that challenge official narratives.”
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      The call is “do your own research”, not “read propaganda, marked as “research””

      “Morality and ethical behavior are now a “Commodity” and easily changed quickly and often for a price.
      “Fact Checking” is for YOU to do alone, and if you have ANY bias, you’ll only see what you want. Regardless of science (which is now a dogmatic religion) facts, or anything that contradicts the “belief” is immediately dismissed and worse, violently confronted.”

      Fact-checkers & debunkers are part of this corruption.
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      USA Today fact-checking on Event 201 (A Global Pandemic Exercise):
      “Although Event 201 was a real event affiliated with high-profile medical professionals, business leaders and government actors, the claim that the event predicted the current pandemic,or is tied to it directly in some way, is unfounded. We rate this claim FALSE because it is not supported by our research. There is no reason to believe that the current pandemic will resemble the Event 201 simulation, despite coincidences in the modeling and timing of the simulation.”
      “And the USA Today fact-checking geniuses came to their above-listed conclusion by asking the people who designed the simulation if there was any connection between Event 201 and Covid-19.USA Today’s Fact-Checking Sources:
      Center for Health Security, Event 201
      Johns Hopkins University, Statement about nCoV and our pandemic exercise
      Johns Hopkins University, Pandemic simulation exercise spotlights massive preparedness gap
      Johns Hopkins University: What is a coronavirus?
      And Bill Gates himself!”

      “drown in your own mucus”
      “This thread is FUD. This thread is False. I hope you don’t bury cared ones with your ideas. ”

      1. Anything in its worst-case scenario is gruesome deadly. Anything, without exception, including common cold or scratches.
      2. Can drowning in your own mucus be attributed to COVID? Pneumonia might be the case:
      “Mucus plugs actually further decrease the efficiency of gas exchange in the lung. The alveoli fill further with fluid and debris from the large number of white blood cells being produced to fight the infection.”

      and pneumonia is among influenza’s complications:

      COVID-related: “Died 0.30 per 1000 people” (= 0.03% fatal cases)

      “the average age of people dying in England and Wales from Covid-19 is 82.4.
      This is slightly higher than deaths caused by other illnesses, which has a median age of 81.5.”

      This is official statistics. “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics”:
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      Kary Mullis, PCR test inventor (died on August 7, 2019):
      “I don’t think you can misuse PCR [but] the results, the interpretation of it”
      “if you do it [a PCR test] well you can find almost anything in anybody”
      “you can amplify one single molecule up to something that you can really measure, which PCR can do” “there is just very few molecules that you don’t have at least one, single one of them, in your body”
      “it [a PCR test] doesn’t tell you that you’re sick and it doesn’t tell you that the thing you interact with really was gonna hurt you or anything like that”
      ( )

      “Is Germ Theory True?” “my good guess is NO, there are no such thing as germs.”
      ( )

      Is flu to be scared of? Is COVID to be scared of?

      If you instist on having medication and treatment, look here:
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      “Already had my 1st shot.”

      “Most people incorrectly assume that the key to disease eradication is through the administering of vaccines and antiviral medicines. These products do not prevent illnesses, they have always caused the proliferation of diseases.”
      “The trillions of bacteria and viruses that generally exist in the same environment and atmosphere we live in cannot infect people with healthy immune systems. Once again, let me point out that vaccines and suppressive drug therapies weaken human immunity. By the way, so do disinfectants and hand sanitizers. If the powers that be wanted to truly improve the collective immunity of the population, they would do the opposite of what is currently being prescribed. Let everybody go about their business and interact with one another. ”
      “From a microbiological standpoint, viruses that routinely kill their hosts are cutting off their noses to spite their faces. In other words, it does no good for a virus to kill its host. Because of this fact, viruses modify themselves so that they can co exist with hosts without harming them. Therefore, we see the virulence of viral microbes decrease in intensity in humans and other animals over time.”

      “The trouble is that people are very reluctant to believe that things that sound so scientific and medical and are promoted so aggressively by scientific and medical experts could be mythical or at the very best exaggerated”
      “pharmaceutical industry ‘normal’ business is characterized by persistent deceit, ranging from subtle image manipulation to outright and frequent research fraud”
      “Despite irrefutable evidence of extensive patient harm, years of attempts to prevent harm due to conflicts of interest have failed dismally”

      “The physician who served as Bill Gates’ private doctor in Seattle in the 1990s says the Microsoft founder and vaccine proponent “refused to vaccinate his own children” when they were young.”
      “Gates has three children with his wife Melinda – Jennifer, Rory and Phoebe – born between 1996 and 2002, and according to his former doctor, they are all unvaccinated and healthy.”
      “the elite do not vaccinate their children. But at the same time they expect the masses to have their children vaccinated.”
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      for plebeians, parent’s consent may be implied almost by default:
      “obtaining informed consent for vaccination vary among countries”
      “3. An implied consent process by which parents are informed of imminent vaccination through social mobilization and communication, sometimes including letters directly addressed to the parents. Subsequently, the physical presence of the child or adolescent, with or without an accompanying parent at the vaccination session, is considered to imply consent. This practice is based on the opt-out principle and parents who do not consent to vaccination are expected implicitly to take steps to ensure that their child or adolescent does not participate in the vaccination session. This may include not letting the child or adolescent attend school on a vaccination day, if vaccine delivery occurs through schools.”

      Consider harm from vaccines:

      “Direct evidence on the comparative safety of mRNA vaccines and other vaccines is lacking.”
      “The rate of severe adverse effects (severe enough to interfere with a person’s daily activities) appears to be in the range of 5 to 10 percent”

      @Uxer : do your own research, please…
      I recommend first, doing some light reading on how the scientific method works- try reading Cosmos by Carl Sagan. If you prefer listening to stuff, The Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe podcast (now also a book) will give you some knowledge on how the scientific process works, and how false claims also work, how personal bias can distort our reality, etc, etc…

      @PPC : How do you think, how biased is you personal perception and judgement?
      What programmers say and what they mean

      “Enough research will tend to support whatever theory.”
      “Research supports a specific theory depending on the amount of funds dedicated to it.”

      Lets check the extraordinary claims here:

      1- Research if “anti-COVID vaccine” is of a novel type, unlike any existing vaccines”- some are of a novel type, that’s a good thing. They are faster to make…

      Debian: Stable (which antiX is based on), Testing, Unstable and Experimental. It is OK to have Debian Experimental, but it is wrong to tout it as urgently needed for the whole world, including you, antiX.
      Great haste makes great waste.
      Shortcuts make long delays.
      Better safe than sorry.

      2- Research on how to “genetically modify” any organism. Sure, if you inject something radiotive in your body it will produce genetic mutations- cancer

      Or no? “The Nuclear Scare Scam – Galen Winsor”, 1:31:19

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      3- Research on how patents work, all over the world- If I grab you off the street and tatoo the secret coca cola formula in your forehead against your will, do you think CocaCola Corp will own your body?

      2. Pre-historic Svastikas 卍, 卐 used to be revered throughout the globe, but today in many countries it is banned, just by a decree.
      3. “The suit filed by USL alleged that BSDi’s product included code and trade secrets that belonged to USL. They also asked for an injunction to prevent BSDi from selling their product until the lawsuit had been resolved because it could damage USL.”
      “USL couldn’t sue them over freely available code.”
      “Even though the supporters of a free and open-source BSD were victorious, the UNIX System Laboratories, Inc. v. Berkeley Software Design, Inc. lawsuit caused immense damage. It effectively stalled development on BSD for several years.”
      ( )
      4. You may know that upon incorporating a single GNU GPL -incompatible component into a GNU GPL product, you may not distribute the product under GNU GPL terms.
      ( You may know also, that genuinely libre OSes and distros have issues with running on real-world hardware. The same way, denuienely libre ideas and movements and individuals have issues with running in real-world society )
      5. How some “civilized” and “legitimate” states (including such top countries as Israel and USA) have been established: by occupation (= invasion and conquest), raising the flag and signing documents stating: “we are legitimate”.

      Moreover, it may not matter how patents works for you if you are in power to write legislation and interpret it and shape opinion of the masses.
      In 2019 COVID-hysteria would have been both laughable and illegal. Nowadays the hysteria scourges the planet “legally”.
      In many countries, constitutional rights have been “legally” suspended due to “pandemics”.

      sure, some evil corporation can be sitting on new tech advances, just waiting to enslave us all, instead of making fortunes doing more immediately lucrative stuff like curing cancer, baldness, aging, etc…

      A joke, please amend my wording if you know more appropriate one:
      On a farm, a cow talks to another cow:
      — Humans breed us for our milk and meat.
      — I am tired of your conspiracy theories!

      Patent WO2020060606
      “Human body activity associated with a task provided to a user may be used in a mining process of a cryptocurrency system. A server may provide a task to a device of a user which is communicatively coupled to the server. A sensor communicatively coupled to or comprised in the device of the user may sense body activity of the user. Body activity data may be generated based on the sensed body activity of the user. The cryptocurrency system communicatively coupled to the device of the user may verify if the body activity data satisfies one or more conditions set by the cryptocurrency system, and award cryptocurrency to the user whose body activity data is verified.”
      The reading may be up to:
      “To get income, you have to execute orders. Disintegration from society otherwise.”

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      “On the surface, it is made to look like the pharmaceutical companies are burning the oil day and night to find a cure”
      “Pharmaceutical companies depend on these diseases to make large profits every year. It wouldn’t be very smart for a pharmaceutical company to conduct research that would lead to a cure for a specific disease. Why would a company want to destroy a cash cow?”
      “There is not much money to be made by producing cures but quite a lot of money is collected in the management of various diseases.”

      Your health benefits most from your life-and-health attitude, good karma, positive relationship and social contacts, healthy physical and brain activity, fresh local organic food, good sleep during night, nature: sun, air, water.
      No corporation can possibly give you any of these.

      BTW, Google distorts output for “cancer cure” queries.

      5 – “Artificial Intelligence” – The previous statement applies. also. True artificial intelligence will be a game changer, once discovered. The group that does that will probably keep a lid on it, but also use it to amass money and power – many sci-fi novels/movies/tv series explore that possibility. For now, we are nowhere near that (as far as the scientific community knows)

      “as far as I know”, “will probably keep a lid on it”, “as far as the scientific community knows” — !
      Classified developments are somewhat more advanced than ones that receive public airing, many novels/movies/tv series explore that either, if these sources count.

      The group that does that will probably keep a lid on it, but also use it to amass money and power

      The group that does that has already both world money and global power. The former is of second-rate importance: as long as you have power, you can impose any political/economical/societal changes upon the world, retaining your influence and continuing being the rulers, but under other titles, if even taking titles.

      just waiting to enslave us all, instead of making fortunes doing more immediately lucrative stuff

      As soon as you obtain money source, money cease to be the purpose and becomes a mere means.

      4- Research nano-robotics – as far as I know, nothing has been produced that can be injected without the use of a very large needle
      6- “connecting you to IoB (= Internet of Bodies) and making you controllable” – Lol, that’s the most hilarious claim…
      Think about that for one second- you used the Internet to post this- how does it work? You need a power supply (connection to an electric grid, or battery- how the hell do this “nanobots” get their power inside your body? Body heat? Using some insane tech to transform the lipids in your blood stream into electric power?). You need something that processes the signal to be sent/received over the network- sure, that part is not implausible, robots, and nano bots can do that) but how to send/receive the signal? No antenna, right? Using your body? Sorry, you are mostly water, not a very good medium so send radio signals.

      I have not developed a working human remote control, so just a dump of links intended to show the achievability:

      “MARK OF THE BEAST ADVANCED PART 1”, 49 minutes:
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      “may be powered by electromagnetic energy (heat, light, magnetic), mechanical or even chemical energy harvested from body’s resources.”

      “Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), an agency of the United States Department of Defense, has developed cyborg insects that can transmit information from sensors implanted into the insect during the pupal stage. The insect’s motion is controlled from a micro-electro-mechanical system (MEMS), and it can be used to survey an environment or, say, detect explosives and poisonous gases. Similar high-value and path-breaking work using cutting-edge implantable technology is being done on humans, too.”
      “A single chip radio system with onboard antenna and sensors of size 100µm×100µm×1µm is what is feasible with current technology. Consequently, wireless communication becomes possible with human implants for receiving information about chemical or physical quantity in biological systems, or for providing remote activation/deactivation of biochemical activity inside a single living cell.
      Using nanotechnology, fabrication of an FM radio using a single nano-tube of 1µm length and 10nm width is possible. The nano-tube radio is inserted inside the living human cell to give a sub-cellular remote and real-time controlled interface.
      Miniaturisation of the radio chip could also be used in the fabrication of smart dusts, that is, tiny objects with sensing and communication abilities that may be massively distributed over an area for remote tracking of human presence. Another application could be based on the fabrication of tiny physiological sensors implanted in humans, communicating with a single central unit in wireless body area networks (WBANs).”
      “Technological feasibility of tiny devices implanted inside a living cell for the remote control of a wide range of biological functions or detection of presence of an antibody has been successfully demonstrated by scientists. They have done so by implanting a nano-robot in embedded smart sensors in the human body for tele-operated surgical procedures or early disease diagnosis.”
      ( )

      “manipulate the waves so that they propagate and pass through live tissue”

      “power active implants wirelessly via ultrasound”

      “electricity from the glucose present in the cerebrospinal fluid”
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      self-winding watch
      “demonstrated how nanoparticles could move quickly in a desired direction without help from outside forces.”

      “human body act as a radio/TV antenna?”

      “we propose to use the human body itself as an antenna”

      “Human body communication (HBC) is a promising wireless technology that uses the human body as part of the communication channel.”

      “YOU are an antenna!”

      Hardware and software updates envisaged:
      “Health officials expect people to need yearly COVID-19 booster shot”
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      In a pratical stand point- many people already do have a (semi) permanent connection to the internet that enslaves, guides and tracks them- it’s called a smartphone…
      And even so, smartphone batteries keep dyeing on their users, wifi keeps coming down, gps fails sometimes, etc… How exactly would that be different on a nano scale, with less room for storing power and a nano antenas?

      Diversification and multiple chips — one fails, others work?

      7- “put an ID on you” – sorry mate, unless you do not own a smartphone, or use an ungoogled phone, you are already tagged…
      Prior to smartphones, citizens had long been tagged with passports, прописки, tax IDs, medical record, birth certificate, military identity card, driving licence, other identity documents.

      Even prior to secular documents, population had been being tagged in parish registers.
      Why not upgrade the tagging method further? A smartphone is less “private”, “convenient” and reliable than an in-body chip.

      I recommend first, doing some light reading on how the scientific method works- try reading Cosmos by Carl Sagan. If you prefer listening to stuff, The Skeptics’ Guide to the Universe podcast (now also a book) will give you some knowledge on how the scientific process works, and how false claims also work, how personal bias can distort our reality, etc, etc…

      Sorry mate, but with Carl Sagan’s support of such blatantly unscientific ideas as global warming and evolution, I say that Carl Sagan either was not as enlightened as he has been being presented, or he was a hypocrite and an agent to push mainstream pseudo-science.
      Wait, קרל סייגן? No surprise.

      the tumbnail of the video on the BBC – she looks hot, I guess I’ll be watching her video after all… ????

      here is another nice lady speaking:
      “Dr. Simone Gold on Risks of the Experimental MRNA COVID Vaccine”
      ( )

      Meanwhile across the ocean and to the south …

      Anyone interested in reading will need to translate into their respective language.

      I wonder how to put these two in line:

      “CoronaVac is produced with inactivated viruses of the new coronavirus (Sars-CoV-2)”

      “no quantified virus isolates of the 2019-nCoV are currently available”
      ( )

      Sars-CoV-2 = severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2
      2019-nCoV = 2019 novel coronavirus
      Sars-CoV-2 = 2019-nCoV

      COVID is about control

      I personally prefer to err on the safe side.
      I am not going to make anyone change his/her mind. A human being is inherently free to believe anything, even if he/she is absolutely wrong. This applies to you all and me


        I had previously seen the bitchute video posted atop your post here.
        Dismissed it as Fear Porn because her rant contains numerous overreaching claims (along with multiple technical inaccuracies) and she opines several non-sufficiently substantiated points.

        IMO, this is a more compelling video in support of the same (position of cautionary skepticism):

        28min video: interview with Lee Merritt, MD | COVID-19 Therapeutics and Vaccines

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