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April 3, 2023 at 10:01 pm #104017Moderator
Brian Masinick
The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first release
candidate of the installer for Debian 12 “Bookworm”.The Debian Installer team thanks everybody who has contributed to this
release.1. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Team
2. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata
3. https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer--
Brian MasinickApril 10, 2023 at 3:34 am #104474Moderator
Brian Masinick
::https://linuxiac.com/debian-12-a-closer-look/
This article gives a lot of information about the upcoming Debian 12 (Bookworm) release and accordingly it may provide a few hints about how close we are to a potential antiX 23 release.
I don’t know for certain if we can anticipate the antiX 23 release to precede the Debian 12 release, closely match it or follow it. That will depend on what we in the community test and contribute and what we can complete with or without Debian. We’d be blind and misguided to think we are completely independent of Debian, but we’d be equally blind to see the many things we have built, replaced, enhanced or improved.
I’ve been a long time Debian user and an even longer Linux user, and a past UNIX developer and user. When Debian replaced the classic Linux sysvinit program with systemd, a powerful but questionable development by another organization (Red Hat), it fractured quite a bit of the community, to the point that a Debian fork called Devuan was formed. The antiX team initially chose this approach to preserve the legacy established. The team also investigated other options and has been using one, the “runit” init system as an alternative and is considering other alternatives for future efforts.
Where I’m going with this is that even in freely available software there’s disagreement and choices to make. Debian still works. I use siduction, a Debian Sid alternative and it definitely works well. We know very well that antiX works great. Endeavour OS is a great distribution based on Arch Linux that makes Arch Linux usable without a graduate degree in system administration or Computer Science.
My point is that there are many options out there. Our job here is to collaborate on the antiX distribution to keep it both lean and efficient while usable and relevant. We’ve made some very useful options and choices available. Choice means more than one way to assemble our own systems.
Today we use some of the best components from the Debian project, a collection of applications and tools from developers all over the world including some of us. No one person has made everything. Even Linus Torvalds and Richard Stallman have benefited from the efforts of thousands of people. Our own efforts include a few people who are no longer with us.
I’m thankful for everyone, those with ideas we like and those who think differently. Sometimes our diversity ends up resulting in more ideas; some work, some don’t. While our relatively small project can’t outdo everything, we’ve done some things that have created a terrific niche for old stuff and fast, lean stuff.
I’m excited to see it through.
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Brian MasinickApril 10, 2023 at 10:53 am #104484MemberXunzi_23
::makes Arch Linux usable without a graduate degree in system administration or Computer Science.
Thanks made me grin, arch is a challenge at times but not that bad. Sometimes I miss the fun and games.
I have also converted Manjaro to pure arch, probably still doable although now Manjaro has some own repos.
real challenge try Gentoo 🙂
April 10, 2023 at 12:50 pm #104486Moderator
Brian Masinick
::Yeah, Gentoo Linux is another one like Arch Linux – EXTREMELY flexible and customizable – if you have nothing else to do with your time!
I’m retired and I do have some time but now my time is more filled with things I can do with the people that I love and that’s more important than practically writing my own interface for my system!
I do like systems that are highly configurable. Our own distributions are very configurable but they also are preconfigured so you can use them immediately and fine tune them for your specific interests and requirements.
I think that Gentoo Linux may have a preconfigured environment available. For whatever reason it never quite fit me and that’s what I do appreciate about the hundreds of different systems and configurations.
I argue repeatedly that free software and commercial software are choices that ought to be available. My wife gets only as close to the software and hardware as preconfigured systems provide. She used Microsoft Windows for 30-35 years of her life and then their school tried out some inexpensive Chromebook models and she’s been using them ever since.
She also uses an Android phone so all of her network use has a Linux kernel but she’s never been a Linux desktop user.
Six or seven years ago I got my own mother and a neighbor across the street to use an extremely simple antiX setup. Their computers were old and slow, positive point one. The default settings have too many choices for those cases so I greatly simplified it. In both situations I found out exactly what they used so I created custom configurations that would log directly into the most common thing and has fewer than five toolbar buttons they could press once to access what they needed; simple, fast, and easy for me to customize and easy for them to use!
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Brian MasinickApril 27, 2023 at 11:20 pm #105559Moderator
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bookworm release planned on 2023-06-10 and the last weeks up to the release
Release date
============We plan to release on 2023-06-10.
If you want to celebrate it, please consider attending a Debian
release party, or hosting your own! See
https://wiki.debian.org/ReleasePartyBookworm for more information.
(Note: the release process typically takes the whole day and the
release isn’t done until the early hours of Sunday UTC.)Full Freeze date
================With the release date set, it’s time to announce the Full Freeze [1]
date: Wednesday 2023-05-24. This means that from that moment on, every
package requires a manual unblock [2] by the release team if it needs
to migrate to bookworm. Please note that, as with all freezes, the new
rules apply for all packages that haven’t migrated to testing yet (not
only for uploads after the freeze).For all uploads, please review the Freeze Policy [1] once again to
make sure you know what is appropriate at this phase of the release.The final weeks up to the release
=================================In the last week prior to the freeze, testing will be completely
frozen and only emergency bug fixes will be considered in this period.
Please consider Sunday 2023-05-28 at 12:00 UTC the absolute last
moment for submitting unblock requests for bookworm.Changes that are not ready to migrate [3] to testing at that time will
not be included in bookworm for the initial release. However, you can
still fix bugs in bookworm via point releases if the changeset follows
the rules for updates in stable.Upgrade testing
===============If you are in a position to carry out upgrade testing from bullseye to
bookworm in the field, now is the time to do so and send your feedback
as a bug report against the “upgrade-reports” pseudo-package.Release notes
=============Please ensure that any information about your packages which should
form part of the release notes is prepared in plenty of time to allow
for review and translations. Release notes coordination happens in the
BTS in bugs filed against the “release-notes” pseudo-package and in
merge requests on salsa [4].For the release team,
Paul[1] https://release.debian.org/testing/freeze_policy.html#full
[2] please use $(reportbug release.debian.org) to get the tags and
template right
[3] The testing migration excuses must not mention *blocked* (due to
dependency issues, CI or piuparts failures or other reasons). It is
acceptable if the required age has not been reached at this time.
[4] https://salsa.debian.org/ddp-team/release-notes/--
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