(Debian) systemd maintainers 'emotionally exhausted' :(

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  • #27363
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    dghdgh

    https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2019/09/msg00001.html
    Cry me a river. Sounds like Captain Feelgood has a fresh bucket of crocodile tears and he’s greasing the skids in the torpedo bay; so much for Debian’s glowy, short-lived lies about ‘init diversity’. (Never believed them anyway.) Prepare for impact!

    #27367
    AvatarAnonymous

    You just have to understand it the proper way.

    Linux is a server OS and Linux on a desktop is an illusion.

    Linux is still alive because of a few ‘big players’ needing and developing it.

    (Almost) Everything that’s good in Linux world is financed by Apple, Google, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle …

    The rest of it consists of a hand full of barely usable applications and the big bunch of crap, made by some hobbyists.

    The situation with systemd is not different. It’s not perfect, but it’s better.

    #27368
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    fatmacfatmac

    Systemd was conceived to make money for the big players to sell maintenance contracts, it is the equivalent of MS Registry, only a few people really understand how it works, it has been made complex to sell these contracts.

    SysV has been, & still is, working perfectly, why change it – just to make money, that’s why.

    Thankfully, the BSDs are not using systemd, & many really big concerns are using BSD to run their businesses.

    Debian has sold out, no longer is it the distro of the people.

    Linux (& BSD) since 1999

    #27373
    AvatarAnonymous

    “Systemd was conceived to make money for the big players to sell maintenance contracts, it is the equivalent of MS Registry, only a few people really understand how it works, it has been made complex to sell these contracts.”

    Well maybe, but … take a look at gconf-editor and dconf-editor … and editing /etc/something/somecrap.rc is also not that much easier (or harder) for anybody else except for “a few people (who) really understand”.

    And about selling contracts/support plan, every serious company on this planet is paying for support, either directly or indirectly.

    Either you pay for the contract or pay for your own support (== pay your very own support team).

    That wasn’t different with (or in times of) any other init.

    #27376
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    malemale

    Unfortunately, some systemd opponents repeatedly misjudge that this beneficial invention only came into being because sysVinit was associated with old-age weakness lid. Only then did they start to maintain this init system again…

    I love systemd and have already written once, first with systemd I understand my Linux! I don’t understand sysVinit. The main thing is that the people writing here understand it…

    Yeah, and the hard impact won’t happen! lol

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