{Solved} Difference between full version and base version of antiX 17

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  • #901
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    Avatargreyowl

    Is the only difference between the full version and base version of antiX17, the inclusion of Libre Office in the full version? If not, what other things are omitted from the base version?
    thanks

    • This topic was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by greyowl.

    Dell Latitude D610 laptop with antiX 19.3 (32 bit)
    Dell Latitude D620 laptop with antiX 19.3 (64 bit)

    #902
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    BitJamBitJam

    Here are the packages that are in full but not base:

    acl
    acpi
    acpi-support
    apt-show-versions
    aspell
    aspell-en
    asunder
    avahi-daemon
    avahi-utils
    bind9-host
    bittorrent
    bluetooth
    bluez
    cclive
    cdparanoia
    cherrytree
    claws-mail
    claws-mail-i18n
    claws-mail-pdf-viewer
    claws-mail-pgpinline
    claws-mail-pgpmime
    claws-mail-tools
    coinor-libcbc3
    coinor-libcgl1
    coinor-libclp1
    coinor-libcoinmp1v5:amd64
    coinor-libcoinutils3v5
    coinor-libosi1v5
    cups
    cups-client
    cups-common
    cups-core-drivers
    cups-daemon
    cups-filters
    cups-filters-core-drivers
    cups-ppdc
    cups-server-common
    dc
    dc3dd
    dcfldd
    dosbox
    e3
    ethtool
    evince
    evince-common
    evince-gtk
    gcolor2
    ghostscript
    gir1.2-notify-0.7:amd64
    gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0
    gnome-desktop3-data
    gsfonts
    gsfonts-x11
    gtkam
    gufw-legacy
    guvcview
    gweled
    hexchat
    hexchat-common
    hplip
    hplip-data
    html2text
    hunspell-ca
    hunspell-en-gb
    imagemagick
    imagemagick-6-common
    imagemagick-6.q16
    irqbalance
    libabw-0.1-1:amd64
    libapt-pkg-perl
    libavahi-core7:amd64
    libavcodec-extra
    libavcodec-extra57:amd64
    libbind9-140:amd64
    libbluetooth3:amd64
    libboost-date-time1.62.0:amd64
    libboost-filesystem1.62.0:amd64
    libboost-iostreams1.62.0:amd64
    libboost-program-options1.62.0:amd64
    libboost-system1.62.0:amd64
    libcairo-perl
    libcanberra0:amd64
    libcddb2
    libcdr-0.1-1:amd64
    libclucene-contribs1v5:amd64
    libclucene-core1v5:amd64
    libcmis-0.5-5v5
    libcolamd2:amd64
    libcompfaceg1
    libcupscgi1:amd64
    libcupsfilters1:amd64
    libcupsimage2:amd64
    libcupsmime1:amd64
    libcupsppdc1:amd64
    libdjvulibre-text
    libdjvulibre21:amd64
    libdns162:amd64
    libe-book-0.1-1:amd64
    libenchant1c2a:amd64
    libeot0:amd64
    libetonyek-0.1-1:amd64
    libetpan17:amd64
    libevdocument3-4:amd64
    libevview3-3:amd64
    libexif-gtk5
    libexttextcat-2.0-0:amd64
    libexttextcat-data
    libfontembed1:amd64
    libfreehand-0.1-1
    libgd3:amd64
    libgeoip1:amd64
    libglib-perl
    libgltf-0.0-0v5:amd64
    libgnome-desktop-3-12:amd64
    libgpgme11:amd64
    libgphoto2-6:amd64
    libgphoto2-port12:amd64
    libgpod-common
    libgpod4:amd64
    libgs9-common
    libgs9:amd64
    libgsl2:amd64
    libgtk2-perl
    libgtksourceview2.0-0:amd64
    libgtksourceview2.0-common
    libgusb2:amd64
    libgutenprint2
    libguvcview-2.0-2:amd64
    libgxps2:amd64
    libharfbuzz-icu0:amd64
    libhpmud0:amd64
    libhyphen0:amd64
    libieee1284-3:amd64
    libijs-0.35:amd64
    libisc160:amd64
    libisccc140:amd64
    libisccfg140:amd64
    libkeybinder0
    libkpathsea6:amd64
    liblangtag-common
    liblangtag1:amd64
    liblcms2-utils
    liblqr-1-0:amd64
    liblwres141:amd64
    libmagickcore-6.q16-3:amd64
    libmagickwand-6.q16-3:amd64
    libmhash2:amd64
    libmikmod3:amd64
    libminiupnpc10:amd64
    libmspub-0.1-1:amd64
    libmwaw-0.3-3:amd64
    libmythes-1.2-0:amd64
    libnatpmp1:amd64
    libnautilus-extension1a:amd64
    libneon27-gnutls:amd64
    libodfgen-0.1-1:amd64
    liborcus-0.11-0:amd64
    libpackagekit-glib2-18:amd64
    libpagemaker-0.0-0:amd64
    libpango-perl
    libpaper-utils
    libpcrecpp0v5:amd64
    libpisock9
    libpoppler-glib8:amd64
    libpoppler64:amd64
    libqpdf17:amd64
    libquvi-0.9-0.9.3:amd64
    libquvi-scripts-0.9
    libraptor2-0:amd64
    librasqal3:amd64
    librdf0:amd64
    libreoffice-base-core
    libreoffice-calc
    libreoffice-common
    libreoffice-core
    libreoffice-draw
    libreoffice-gtk
    libreoffice-gtk2
    libreoffice-impress
    libreoffice-math
    libreoffice-style-galaxy
    libreoffice-systray
    libreoffice-writer
    librevenge-0.0-0:amd64
    libsane-common
    libsane-hpaio:amd64
    libsane:amd64
    libsdl-net1.2:amd64
    libsdl-sound1.2:amd64
    libsdl1.2debian:amd64
    libsgutils2-2
    libsnmp-base
    libsnmp30:amd64
    libspectre1:amd64
    libsuitesparseconfig4:amd64
    libusb-0.1-4:amd64
    libvisio-0.1-1:amd64
    libvo-amrwbenc0:amd64
    libwebcam0
    libwebpdemux2:amd64
    libwnck-3-0:amd64
    libwnck-3-common
    libwpd-0.10-10:amd64
    libwpg-0.3-3:amd64
    libwps-0.4-4:amd64
    libxres1:amd64
    libyajl2:amd64
    lp-solve
    lua-bitop:amd64
    lua-expat:amd64
    lua-json
    lua-lpeg:amd64
    lua-socket:amd64
    luckybackup
    luckybackup-data
    mpg321
    mupdf
    myspell-ca
    myspell-de-de
    myspell-el-gr
    myspell-en-gb
    myspell-es
    myspell-fr
    myspell-nl
    myspell-pl
    myspell-pt-br
    network-config
    notify-osd
    numlockx
    openssh-server
    openssh-sftp-server
    poppler-data
    poppler-utils
    printer-driver-brlaser
    printer-driver-c2050
    printer-driver-c2esp
    printer-driver-cjet
    printer-driver-cups-pdf
    printer-driver-dymo
    printer-driver-escpr
    printer-driver-foo2zjs
    printer-driver-foo2zjs-common
    printer-driver-gutenprint
    printer-driver-hpcups
    printer-driver-hpijs
    printer-driver-m2300w
    printer-driver-min12xxw
    printer-driver-pnm2ppa
    printer-driver-postscript-hp
    printer-driver-ptouch
    printer-driver-pxljr
    printer-driver-sag-gdi
    printer-driver-splix
    pv
    python-appindicator
    python-bittorrent
    python-cssselect
    python-enchant
    python-gtksourceview2
    python-imaging
    python-keybinder
    python-pil:amd64
    python-pyquery
    python-urwid
    python-webob
    python-wicd
    python3-cairo
    python3-chardet
    python3-cups
    python3-cupshelpers
    python3-dbus
    python3-gi
    python3-pexpect
    python3-pil:amd64
    python3-ptyprocess
    python3-reportlab
    python3-reportlab-accel:amd64
    python3-requests
    python3-six
    python3-urllib3
    radeontool
    sane-utils
    simple-scan
    spawn-fcgi
    ssl-cert
    streamripper
    streamtuner2
    system-config-printer
    system-config-printer-common
    system-config-printer-udev
    transmission
    transmission-cli
    transmission-common
    transmission-gtk
    ufw
    unclutter
    uno-libs3
    ure
    uvcdynctrl
    uvcdynctrl-data
    wamerican
    wavpack
    wicd
    wicd-curses
    wicd-daemon
    wicd-gtk
    winff
    winff-data
    winff-doc
    winff-gtk2
    xfce-keyboard-shortcuts

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    #906
    Member
    Avatargreyowl

    Wow! That is a lot of stuff for the 180mb difference between full and base.
    I will definitely stay with the full version.
    Thanks for the information.

    Dell Latitude D610 laptop with antiX 19.3 (32 bit)
    Dell Latitude D620 laptop with antiX 19.3 (64 bit)

    #908
    Forum Admin
    BitJamBitJam

    You could try running a base system (or even core) as a live-usb. If you want. We’ve tried to make it easy to explore.

    Context is worth 80 IQ points -- Alan Kay

    #909
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    Avatargreyowl

    Yes, that would be a good experiment. Maybe, I won’t need the extra things in the full version. I wouldn’t mind saving some space on my small laptop drive.

    Dell Latitude D610 laptop with antiX 19.3 (32 bit)
    Dell Latitude D620 laptop with antiX 19.3 (64 bit)

    #911
    Forum Admin
    anticapitalistaanticapitalista

    Just to add a couple of points.

    Up until this release we were able to include what is now antiX-full to fit on a cd ie be around 700MB.
    We just about managed it on the previous version, antiX-16 (jessie based), but it became clear that it was impossible on stretch.
    So, we decided to build our usual antiX-full version even though it is now 100MB fatter.
    Due to this, we also decided to make the base version closer to the old full so those users who need to boot from cd could do so with most of what we had before in antiX-full.

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

    #912
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    Avatargreyowl

    Thanks for the clarification.

    Dell Latitude D610 laptop with antiX 19.3 (32 bit)
    Dell Latitude D620 laptop with antiX 19.3 (64 bit)

    #1184
    Member
    Avatargreyowl

    I am trying to figure out whether to go with the base version or the full version.

    From the long list of items above, I can recognize many apps which I would not miss initially and could install as I need them later. Here is a list of apps that appear to be omitted in the base version:
    libre office
    asunder
    simple scan
    cherry tree
    blue tooth
    claws mail
    evince
    lucky backup
    bittorrent
    wicd
    sane utilities
    stream ripper
    stream tuner
    transmission

    Most of the list are item that I am not familiar with. I need some guidance on the impact it would have on my setup if I used the base version rather than the full version eg would it be more difficult to install my printer? What else?

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 5 months ago by greyowl.

    Dell Latitude D610 laptop with antiX 19.3 (32 bit)
    Dell Latitude D620 laptop with antiX 19.3 (64 bit)

    #1190
    Forum Admin
    BitJamBitJam

    I think your original instincts to stay with full were correct. If you can boot from a dvd or a usb stick then the extra space taken up by full does you very little harm. OTOH, if you want to tailor a system to have only the stuff you want on it then it’s better and easier to start out too small and add things as you miss them or need them.

    I view full, base, and core as starting points for people to create their own custom systems. While not perfect, our live tools are very good. Once you’ve customized the system to your liking, you are just a live-remaster or an iso-snapshot away from making it your own. You’ll have your customized system on live media. You can use it to install on other machines, use it as a snapshot/backup of your system, use it as a rescue boot device, or use it to take your system with you in your pocket.

    Context is worth 80 IQ points -- Alan Kay

    #6130
    Member
    Avatarmizpa

    @BitJam – I’d like to use base, but I’m just wondering if I can remove the extra window managers (I only need one) as well as other things without screwing up the whole system. I don’t want to have to start out with a system that has no X, but I would like to make it as small as possible for space reasons. I’m probably going to put this on a 5 or 10Gb partition, but I won’t need a whole lot of apps, etc., for this particular system. About all I need is Dillo, network capability, a notepad, mplayer, and that’s about it.

    • This reply was modified 3 years, 2 months ago by mizpa.
    #8084
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    Avatarskidoo

    remove the extra window managers

    FYI, the cumulative size on disk for “the window manager files” is minimal.

    fluxbox ~= 3.9Mb
    fluxbox themes ~= 2.4Mb

    icewm 2.5Mb
    icewm themes ~= 24Mb

    jwm ~= 485kb
    jwm themes ~= 850kb

    If you decide to uninstall any of the pre-installed window manager packages,
    you’ll need to manually followup by editing /etc/slim.conf and /usr/share/slim/slim.template
    to remove any reference to the now-absent window manager(s).

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