{Solved} Difference between full version and base version of antiX 17

[Member greyowl]

Is the only difference between the full version and base version of antiX17, the inclusion of Libre Office in the full version? If not, what other things are omitted from the base version?
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• This topic was modified 5 years, 6 months ago by greyowl.

Dell Latitude D620 laptop with antiX 22 (64 bit)

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Here are the packages that are in full but not base:

acl
acpi
acpi-support
apt-show-versions
aspell
aspell-en
asunder
avahi-daemon
avahi-utils
bind9-host
bittorrent
bluetooth
bluez
cclive
cdparanoia
cherrytree
claws-mail
claws-mail-i18n
claws-mail-pdf-viewer
claws-mail-pgpinline
claws-mail-pgpmime
claws-mail-tools
coinor-libcbc3
coinor-libcgl1
coinor-libclp1
coinor-libcoinmp1v5:amd64
coinor-libcoinutils3v5
coinor-libosi1v5
cups
cups-client
cups-common
cups-core-drivers
cups-daemon
cups-filters
cups-filters-core-drivers
cups-ppdc
cups-server-common
dc
dc3dd
dcfldd
dosbox
e3
ethtool
evince
evince-common
evince-gtk
gcolor2
ghostscript
gir1.2-notify-0.7:amd64
gir1.2-packagekitglib-1.0
gnome-desktop3-data
gsfonts
gsfonts-x11
gtkam
gufw-legacy
guvcview
gweled
hexchat
hexchat-common
hplip
hplip-data
html2text
hunspell-ca
hunspell-en-gb
imagemagick
imagemagick-6-common
imagemagick-6.q16
irqbalance
libabw-0.1-1:amd64
libapt-pkg-perl
libavahi-core7:amd64
libavcodec-extra
libavcodec-extra57:amd64
libbind9-140:amd64
libbluetooth3:amd64
libboost-date-time1.62.0:amd64
libboost-filesystem1.62.0:amd64
libboost-iostreams1.62.0:amd64
libboost-program-options1.62.0:amd64
libboost-system1.62.0:amd64
libcairo-perl
libcanberra0:amd64
libcddb2
libcdr-0.1-1:amd64
libclucene-contribs1v5:amd64
libclucene-core1v5:amd64
libcmis-0.5-5v5
libcolamd2:amd64
libcompfaceg1
libcupscgi1:amd64
libcupsfilters1:amd64
libcupsimage2:amd64
libcupsmime1:amd64
libcupsppdc1:amd64
libdjvulibre-text
libdjvulibre21:amd64
libdns162:amd64
libe-book-0.1-1:amd64
libenchant1c2a:amd64
libeot0:amd64
libetonyek-0.1-1:amd64
libetpan17:amd64
libevdocument3-4:amd64
libevview3-3:amd64
libexif-gtk5
libexttextcat-2.0-0:amd64
libexttextcat-data
libfontembed1:amd64
libfreehand-0.1-1
libgd3:amd64
libgeoip1:amd64
libglib-perl
libgltf-0.0-0v5:amd64
libgnome-desktop-3-12:amd64
libgpgme11:amd64
libgphoto2-6:amd64
libgphoto2-port12:amd64
libgpod-common
libgpod4:amd64
libgs9-common
libgs9:amd64
libgsl2:amd64
libgtk2-perl
libgtksourceview2.0-0:amd64
libgtksourceview2.0-common
libgusb2:amd64
libgutenprint2
libguvcview-2.0-2:amd64
libgxps2:amd64
libharfbuzz-icu0:amd64
libhpmud0:amd64
libhyphen0:amd64
libieee1284-3:amd64
libijs-0.35:amd64
libisc160:amd64
libisccc140:amd64
libisccfg140:amd64
libkeybinder0
libkpathsea6:amd64
liblangtag-common
liblangtag1:amd64
liblcms2-utils
liblqr-1-0:amd64
liblwres141:amd64
libmagickcore-6.q16-3:amd64
libmagickwand-6.q16-3:amd64
libmhash2:amd64
libmikmod3:amd64
libminiupnpc10:amd64
libmspub-0.1-1:amd64
libmwaw-0.3-3:amd64
libmythes-1.2-0:amd64
libnatpmp1:amd64
libnautilus-extension1a:amd64
libneon27-gnutls:amd64
libodfgen-0.1-1:amd64
liborcus-0.11-0:amd64
libpackagekit-glib2-18:amd64
libpagemaker-0.0-0:amd64
libpango-perl
libpaper-utils
libpcrecpp0v5:amd64
libpisock9
libpoppler-glib8:amd64
libpoppler64:amd64
libqpdf17:amd64
libquvi-0.9-0.9.3:amd64
libquvi-scripts-0.9
libraptor2-0:amd64
librasqal3:amd64
librdf0:amd64
libreoffice-base-core
libreoffice-calc
libreoffice-common
libreoffice-core
libreoffice-draw
libreoffice-gtk
libreoffice-gtk2
libreoffice-impress
libreoffice-math
libreoffice-style-galaxy
libreoffice-systray
libreoffice-writer
librevenge-0.0-0:amd64
libsane-common
libsane-hpaio:amd64
libsane:amd64
libsdl-net1.2:amd64
libsdl-sound1.2:amd64
libsdl1.2debian:amd64
libsgutils2-2
libsnmp-base
libsnmp30:amd64
libspectre1:amd64
libsuitesparseconfig4:amd64
libusb-0.1-4:amd64
libvisio-0.1-1:amd64
libvo-amrwbenc0:amd64
libwebcam0
libwebpdemux2:amd64
libwnck-3-0:amd64
libwnck-3-common
libwpd-0.10-10:amd64
libwpg-0.3-3:amd64
libwps-0.4-4:amd64
libxres1:amd64
libyajl2:amd64
lp-solve
lua-bitop:amd64
lua-expat:amd64
lua-json
lua-lpeg:amd64
lua-socket:amd64
luckybackup
luckybackup-data
mpg321
mupdf
myspell-ca
myspell-de-de
myspell-el-gr
myspell-en-gb
myspell-es
myspell-fr
myspell-nl
myspell-pl
myspell-pt-br
network-config
notify-osd
numlockx
openssh-server
openssh-sftp-server
poppler-data
poppler-utils
printer-driver-brlaser
printer-driver-c2050
printer-driver-c2esp
printer-driver-cjet
printer-driver-cups-pdf
printer-driver-dymo
printer-driver-escpr
printer-driver-foo2zjs
printer-driver-foo2zjs-common
printer-driver-gutenprint
printer-driver-hpcups
printer-driver-hpijs
printer-driver-m2300w
printer-driver-min12xxw
printer-driver-pnm2ppa
printer-driver-postscript-hp
printer-driver-ptouch
printer-driver-pxljr
printer-driver-sag-gdi
printer-driver-splix
pv
python-appindicator
python-bittorrent
python-cssselect
python-enchant
python-gtksourceview2
python-imaging
python-keybinder
python-pil:amd64
python-pyquery
python-urwid
python-webob
python-wicd
python3-cairo
python3-chardet
python3-cups
python3-cupshelpers
python3-dbus
python3-gi
python3-pexpect
python3-pil:amd64
python3-ptyprocess
python3-reportlab
python3-reportlab-accel:amd64
python3-requests
python3-six
python3-urllib3
radeontool
sane-utils
simple-scan
spawn-fcgi
ssl-cert
streamripper
streamtuner2
system-config-printer
system-config-printer-common
system-config-printer-udev
transmission
transmission-cli
transmission-common
transmission-gtk
ufw
unclutter
uno-libs3
ure
uvcdynctrl
uvcdynctrl-data
wamerican
wavpack
wicd
wicd-curses
wicd-daemon
wicd-gtk
winff
winff-data
winff-doc
winff-gtk2
xfce-keyboard-shortcuts

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[Member greyowl]

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Wow! That is a lot of stuff for the 180mb difference between full and base.
I will definitely stay with the full version.
Thanks for the information.

Dell Latitude D620 laptop with antiX 22 (64 bit)

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You could try running a base system (or even core) as a live-usb. If you want. We’ve tried to make it easy to explore.

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Yes, that would be a good experiment. Maybe, I won’t need the extra things in the full version. I wouldn’t mind saving some space on my small laptop drive.

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Just to add a couple of points.

Up until this release we were able to include what is now antiX-full to fit on a cd ie be around 700MB.
We just about managed it on the previous version, antiX-16 (jessie based), but it became clear that it was impossible on stretch.
So, we decided to build our usual antiX-full version even though it is now 100MB fatter.
Due to this, we also decided to make the base version closer to the old full so those users who need to boot from cd could do so with most of what we had before in antiX-full.

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Thanks for the clarification.

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I am trying to figure out whether to go with the base version or the full version.

From the long list of items above, I can recognize many apps which I would not miss initially and could install as I need them later. Here is a list of apps that appear to be omitted in the base version:
libre office
asunder
simple scan
cherry tree
blue tooth
claws mail
evince
lucky backup
bittorrent
wicd
sane utilities
stream ripper
stream tuner
transmission

Most of the list are item that I am not familiar with. I need some guidance on the impact it would have on my setup if I used the base version rather than the full version eg would it be more difficult to install my printer? What else?

• This reply was modified 5 years, 6 months ago by greyowl.

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I think your original instincts to stay with full were correct. If you can boot from a dvd or a usb stick then the extra space taken up by full does you very little harm. OTOH, if you want to tailor a system to have only the stuff you want on it then it’s better and easier to start out too small and add things as you miss them or need them.

I view full, base, and core as starting points for people to create their own custom systems. While not perfect, our live tools are very good. Once you’ve customized the system to your liking, you are just a live-remaster or an iso-snapshot away from making it your own. You’ll have your customized system on live media. You can use it to install on other machines, use it as a snapshot/backup of your system, use it as a rescue boot device, or use it to take your system with you in your pocket.

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@BitJam – I’d like to use base, but I’m just wondering if I can remove the extra window managers (I only need one) as well as other things without screwing up the whole system. I don’t want to have to start out with a system that has no X, but I would like to make it as small as possible for space reasons. I’m probably going to put this on a 5 or 10Gb partition, but I won’t need a whole lot of apps, etc., for this particular system. About all I need is Dillo, network capability, a notepad, mplayer, and that’s about it.

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remove the extra window managers

FYI, the cumulative size on disk for “the window manager files” is minimal.

fluxbox ~= 3.9Mb
fluxbox themes ~= 2.4Mb

icewm 2.5Mb
icewm themes ~= 24Mb

jwm ~= 485kb
jwm themes ~= 850kb

If you decide to uninstall any of the pre-installed window manager packages,
you’ll need to manually followup by editing /etc/slim.conf and /usr/share/slim/slim.template
to remove any reference to the now-absent window manager(s).

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