Dist upgrade WARNING

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

As from today, 6 August 2020 Grrek time, a dist-upgrade will remove essential parts of antiX ie the logout dialog box.
Instead just do

sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

A dist-upgrade shows this:

Reading package lists… Done

Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libgtksourceview2.0-0 libgtksourceview2.0-common python-cairo python-dbus
  python-gobject-2 python-numpy python-pkg-resources python3-enchant
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  cherrytree diffuse libpython-stdlib python python-gtk2 python-gtksourceview2
  python-minimal
The following packages will be upgraded:
  dh-python libpython2-stdlib python2 python2-minimal
4 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 7 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 171 kB of archives.
After this operation, 8,648 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.

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And this applies only to -sid not stable & testing installations.

Is there going to be a remedy to this situation or we have to live with it?

This is the residual difference I get between the upgrade done and the dist-upgrade not done:

Calculating upgrade... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  gir1.2-libvirt-sandbox-1.0 libmpdec2 libvirt-glib-1.0-0 libvirt-sandbox-1.0-5 libvirt0
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libpython-stdlib python python-minimal virt-sandbox
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libpython2-stdlib python2 python2-minimal
3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

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Only to sid, for now. In 10 days,probably same in testing.
It will not affect stable users.

If sid users are ‘happy’ to use reboot or halt in a terminal, then all should be ok.
Seems like python2 is being totally dumped by sid.

Working on a remedy.

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For my stable installs (17 and 19) I thought sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade was recommended.

And I thought this was also recommended for sid.

Appreciate clarification.

Thanks.

stevesr0

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Hello anticapitalista
Thanks for the warning.
python2 claims it will remove wicd.
I can shutdown by terminal okay, but
turning off internetworking mid upgrade could not be good.
I have two sids using wicd. Need some change forced on me. ugh. quickly.
pybootchart on the remove list. didn’t this happen before? often? but wicd!

Found a note of same in last half of 2017. seems a time since then. oh.
Do You kindly have a recommend for the day’s your preferred better wireless networking manager solution? Known Ceni is installed. Have regularly used wicd.

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@stevesr0 – this is only for sid and temporary. Too many things will break – see ile’s post.

@ile – I use ceni on all my boxes. I like connman, others don’t.

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Hello anticapitalista
Did i See a sign? a flag.
upgrades done. In with the new. Some names of the disallowed: disk manager, fslint, medit, wicd, bitorrent
Nice Exit board.

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anticapitalista wrote:

As from today, 6 August 2020 Grrek time, a dist-upgrade will remove essential parts of antiX ie the logout dialog box.

anticapitalista wrote:

Seems like python2 is being totally dumped by sid.

Working on a remedy.

I know little on antix internals. Is the logout dialog box etc. affected only because our existing scripts are still based on Python 2.7? Is it a matter of migrating those scripts to Python 3? If so, there is an official “2to3” tool provided by Python 2.7 that can possibly help. Just a fyi…

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python2 and python3 can coexist.
So if you put python (2.7.12-2) on hold, your python2 packages will not be removed.

# apt-mark hold python

That should keep you out of trouble for a meantime and will do no harm to python3.
But still you better keep an careful eye on the removal list of ‘# apt full-upgrade’.

• This reply was modified 2 years, 9 months ago by Xaver.
• This reply was modified 2 years, 9 months ago by Xaver.
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anticapitalista wrote:

As from today, 6 August 2020 Grrek time, a dist-upgrade will remove essential parts of antiX ie the logout dialog box.

Has this been solved?
With apt WI get

axSid@Sat2Sid:~
$ sudo apt upgrade
A ler as listas de pacotes… Pronto
A construir árvore de dependências
A ler a informação de estado… Pronto
A calcular a actualização… Pronto
Alguns pacotes não puderam ser instalados. Isso pode significar que
você solicitou uma situação impossível ou se você está a usar a
distribuição unstable em que alguns pacotes pedidos ainda não foram
criados ou foram movidos do Incoming.
A seguinte informação pode ajudar a resolver a situação:

Os pacotes a seguir têm dependências não satisfeitas:
elogind : Em Conflito: systemd
Em Conflito: systemd:i386
eudev : Estraga: systemd (> 220)
Estraga: systemd:i386 (> 220)
libelogind0 : Em Conflito: libsystemd0
runit-init : Em Conflito: systemd-sysv
Em Conflito: systemd-sysv:i386
E: Pacotes estragados
axSid@Sat2Sid:~

and with apt-get I get

axSid@Sat2Sid:~
$ sudo apt-get upgrade
A ler as listas de pacotes… Pronto
A construir árvore de dependências
A ler a informação de estado… Pronto
A calcular a actualização… Pronto
O seguinte pacote foi instalado automaticamente e já não é necessário:
libjsoncpp1
Utilize ‘sudo apt autoremove’ para o remover.
Serão mantidos em suas versões actuais os seguintes pacotes:
cdw cherrytree connman gambas3-gb-pdf gir1.2-pango-1.0 init libayatana-indicator3-7 libcdio-cdda2 libcdio-paranoia2 libhpmud0 libiso9660-11
libmpv1 libpango-1.0-0 libpangocairo-1.0-0 libpangoft2-1.0-0 libpangoxft-1.0-0 libpoppler-cpp0v5 libpoppler-glib8 libpython2-stdlib
libreoffice-base-core libreoffice-calc libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress libreoffice-math libreoffice-writer libsane mpv
poppler-utils printer-driver-hpijs python-glade2 python2 python2-minimal rsyslog telegram-desktop tshark wireshark-common wmnd-snmp
Serão actualizados os seguintes pacotes:
firefox-esr libldap-2.4-2 libldap-common libvulkan1 libzmq5 virtualbox virtualbox-dkms virtualbox-ext-pack virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11 virtualbox-qt
13 pacotes actualizados, 0 pacotes novos instalados, 0 a remover e 38 não actualizados.
É necessário obter 146 MB de arquivos.
Após esta operação, serão utilizados 18,3 MB adicionais de espaço em disco.
Deseja continuar? ^C
axSid@Sat2Sid:~
$

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I don’t understand the output (Portuguese?).
It is ok on my sid box if that helps.

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anticapitalista wrote:

I don’t understand the output (Portuguese?).
It is ok on my sid box if that helps.

Sorry, forgot to give a translation

axSid@Sat2Sid:~
$ sudo apt upgrade
Reading the package lists… Ready
Building dependency tree
Reading the status information… Ready
Calculating the update… Ready
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that
you requested an impossible situation or if you are using the
unstable distribution in which some requested packages have not yet been
created or moved from Incoming.
The following information can help resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
praise : In Conflict: systemd
In Conflict: systemd:i386
eudev : Damage: systemd (> 220)
Damage: systemd:i386 (> 220)
libelogind0 : In Conflict: libsystemd0
runit-init : In Conflict: systemd-sysv
In Conflict: systemd-sysv:i386
E: Damaged packages
axSid@Sat2Sid:~

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axSid@Sat2Sid:~
$ sudo apt-get upgrade
Reading the package lists… Ready
Building dependency tree
Reading the status information… Ready
Calculating the update… Ready
The following package was installed automatically and is no longer required:
libjsoncpp1
Use ‘sudo apt autoremove’ to remove it.
The following packages will be kept in their current versions:
cdw cherrytree connman gambas3-gb-pdf gir1.2-pango-1.0 init libayatana-indicator3-7 libcdio-cdda2 libcdio-paranoia2 libhpmud0 libiso9660-11
libmpv1 libpango-1.0-0 libpangocairo-1.0-0 libpangoft2-1.0-0 libpangoxft-1.0-0 libpoppler-cpp0v5 libpoppler-glib8 libpython2-stdlib
libreoffice-base-calc libreoffice-core libreoffice-draw libreoffice-impress libreoffice-math libreoffice-writer libsane mpv
poppler-utils printer-driver-hpijs python-glade2 python2-minimal rsyslog telegram-desktop tshark wireshark-common wmnd-snmp
The following packages will be updated:
firefox-esr libldap-2.4-2 libldap-common libvulkan1 libzmq5 virtualbox-dkms virtualbox-ext-pack virtualbox-guest-additions-iso
virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11 virtualbox-qt
13 updated packages, 0 new packages installed, 0 to be removed and 38 not updated.
It is necessary to get 146 MB of files.
After this operation, an additional 18.3 MB of disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? ^C
axSid@Sat2Sid:~
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zeh, you can temporarily change your locale like this:

$ export LANG=C

For example:

$ apt list --upgradable
Вывод списка… Готово
$ export LANG=C
$ apt list --upgradable
Listing... Done
$ export LANG=ru_RU.utf8
$ apt list --upgradable
Вывод списка… Готово
$ export LANG=en_GB.utf8
$ apt list --upgradable
Listing... Done

Do you have systemd installed? Because the first one really makes it look like you do.

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Dzhigit wrote:

zeh, you can temporarily change your locale like this:

No, didn’t know about that one. Thanks, Dzhigit!

Do you have systemd installed? Because the first one really makes it look like you do.

No, I don’t. I was surprised, myself.

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Where did you get praise from? Are you using 32 or 64 bit antiX?

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