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Xecure wrote:

I suspect that skidoo is right, and your CPU doesn’t have SSe2 support.
What is the output of
lscpu

Note: If you confirm that the CPU is missing SSE2 support, you may have to use non sse2 palemoon (install using the package installer)

Here is the terminal output of lscpu:

$ lscpu
Architecture: x86_64
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order: Little Endian
Address sizes: 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
CPU(s): 1
On-line CPU(s) list: 0
Thread(s) per core: 1
Core(s) per socket: 1
Socket(s): 1
NUMA node(s): 1
Vendor ID: AuthenticAMD
CPU family: 15
Model: 12
Model name: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
Stepping: 0
CPU MHz: 2193.658
BogoMIPS: 4387.31
L1d cache: 64K
L1i cache: 64K
L2 cache: 512K
NUMA node0 CPU(s): 0
Flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good nopl cpuid 3dnowprefetch vmmcall

[Member lonegunmen]

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Also I installed Firefox version 87 from the software installer applications and it runs just fine on this same system.

[Member Xecure]

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You are right. There is sse2 support, but the error that you get “Illegal Instruction” usually happens when there is some missing instruction support.

See other posts in the forum where “Illegal instruction” appears:
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/firefox-midori-pale-moon-not-working/ (recommends removing flash player)
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/seamonkey-2-49-5-does-not-start/#post-40068 (CPU doesn’t support SEE2)

Maybe someone else can recommend other options to figure out this problem.

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[Member ModdIt]

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The Athlon 64 Processor 3200+ does according to spec sheet support SSE2 but not 3 or 4.

Pls see if Vivaldi will run, it is a chrome based browser and available for Linux 64 bit (and 32 bit)
as a deb.
You might also like to try ungoogled chromium and or LibreWolf,

Firefox is not my favorite browser but can be quietened down. OTB it is sending data to
mozilla search terms to google, and pinging every time you blink.

I find it More than suspicious that Brave is complaining about invalid systemD machine ID.

That is a poettering/Red Hat induced Tracking feature, aka unique ID.
Keep on deleting it every time you feel like it. A new different one gets generated next boot.

Do Not feel left out, in antiX there is an ID in /var/lib/dbus/machine.id
Delete it before a shutdown anytime you feel like it, new one generated next boot

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lonegunmen wrote:

Also I installed Firefox version 87 from the software installer applications and it runs just fine on this same system.

Does/did the default firefox-esr run properly?

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anticapitalista wrote:

lonegunmen wrote:

Also I installed Firefox version 87 from the software installer applications and it runs just fine on this same system.

Does/did the default firefox-esr run properly?

Yes it does.

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Maybe try
chromium --no-gpu --disable-setupid-sandbox
Just to see if can you launch it with no GPU support. It is strange that firefox (SSE2 support required) works but Chromium based browsers dont. There must be something else that is giving chromium problems.

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Maybe only on my “somewhat modified” live stick.

Latest Firefox vers 88 installed with Package Installer on a2 Bullseye runit.

Firefox installed to /opt previous was /usr/lib
Needs a change for toolbar starter
prog “Firefox” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/categories/firefox.png /usr/lib/firefox/firefox
New
prog “Firefox” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/categories/firefox.png firefox

Error: Your Firefox profile cannot be loaded. It may be missing or inaccessible.

Previously fox just created a new profile in home which was nuisance, now no start.

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Xecure wrote:

Maybe try
chromium --no-gpu --disable-setupid-sandbox
Just to see if can you launch it with no GPU support. It is strange that firefox (SSE2 support required) works but Chromium based browsers dont. There must be something else that is giving chromium problems.

Finally discovered why Chrome based browsers don’t work on my system. It’s because of SSE3 support. Chrome, Chromium, Brave, Vivaldi and even Ungoogled Chromium need SSE3 support now. My AMD Athlon 64 3200+ supports SSE2 but not SSE3, so that’s why it kept returning “illegal instruction” errors in terminal and why Brave kept returning errors. Hopefully this will help someone else who needs this information.

Here’s the link to Chrome’s system requirements:
Chrome Browser system requirements

Scroll down the page and under Linux system requirements

Linux®

To use Chrome Browser on Linux®, you’ll need:

64-bit Ubuntu 14.04+, Debian 8+, openSUSE 13.3+, or Fedora Linux 24+
An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that’s SSE3 capable

So no Chrome based browsers for this system it would seem.

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Thanks for informing of your findings, lonewgunmen.
This move by Google is pretty recent, and at least I didn’t know about it.
Here is the document Google published in September 2020, informing about their decision of dropping SSE2 support.:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QUzL4MGNqX4wiLvukUwBf6FdCL35kCDoEJTm2wMkahw/edit#heading=h.7nki9mck5t64
Any chromium based browser from version 89 onward drops support for SSE2. So you could try downloading the version 88 chromium in Debian repository.
Purge chromium and brave first, disable the debian-security repo and install chromium from the normal debian repo
On my system, it says that the buster repo has version 88.0.4324.182-1~deb10u1, so maybe you can install it that way. After that, you would hold the chromium version so it no longer updates
sudo apt-mark hold chromium
And then re-enable the debian-security repo.

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Feeling nervous posting here but heading seemed relevant. I am running Antix Distro: antiX-19.2.1_386-base Hannie Schaft 29 March 2020 and Firefox 78.10.0esr (32-bit) installed from Antix package manager. For convenience I use KeepassXC to manage passwords and the KeepassXC browser add-on. The Add-on version I have installed is KeePassXC-Browser Version: 1.7.8.1 and the main program KeePassXC Version: 2.3.4 which is the latest I can find for this system.

Unfortunately I get the following message from my browser

You are using an old version of KeePassXC.
Please download the latest version from keepassxc.org.

This may not be surprising but how can I prevent this warning.
Budgie

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Budgie wrote:

You are using an old version of KeePassXC.
Please download the latest version from keepassxc.org.

This may not be surprising but how can I prevent this warning.

Install the backports version 2.6.2 of keepassxc
sudo apt install -t buster-backports keepassxc
See if this fixes the annoying warning message

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Hi and many thanks for your reply. I ran the backport as you suggested. I no longer have the annoying message but I have another which is equally annoying:-

Message encryption failed. Is KeePassXC running?

In short yes it is running.

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It seems to be related to keepassxc-proxy
See if anything here helps:
https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc-browser/wiki/Troubleshooting-guide#3-check-if-keepassxc-proxy-is-launched-and-running

You may need to start it manually (adding keepassxc-proxy & command to startup), but based on a brief internet research, every time firefox launches it should launch it by default.

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Hi and many thanks. I haven’t dug further yet because the second annoyance has gone, Keepassxc is working as needed. Strange but the original annoyance has returned in spite of the fact that the correct version number is showing and I get a Redetect login fields prompt. Will dig more and report but fast reaching my knowledge limit!

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