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    Brian Masinick
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      Regarding the telemetry…
      … In neither case did I personally suffer financial loss.

      I share almost all of your opinion except here.
      Insurance and reinsurance companies do not think like you (us).

      That may be true, but I’ve not encountered any unreasonable instances of insurance or reinsurance. Like other things, we may experience something else.

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        For example in France,
        In 2020, the amount of banking fraud in France reached around 525 million euros. Economic and financial scams and offenses have increased significantly new means of payment and fraudulent use of banking information, thanks to the diversion of communication networks where caught data.

        And Insurances, we all pay them indirectly (by mutualization).

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        Brian Masinick
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          Thanks for that information. In that respect, there is harm done to the overall infrastructure and it affects the costs, and they are passed on to all. We’re seeing a much greater amount of inflation recently that affects many things. Some blame it on COVID related things, but regardless, the costs of many thing have greatly risen. Interestingly airline prices are among the few items that have held steady overall, even declining in prices, probably because people have grown tired of cancellations and long delays – we flew last summer, and my wife was so troubled by the experience that we’ve put off many of our previously planned trips. Yeah, pandemic has had an impact too, but travel was uncomfortable, to say the least.

          I accept your assertion about this; thanks for enlightening me on this.

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            I changed my credit cards, etc. You were it seems lucky
            For sure not free in EU and a lot of inconvenience involved. You may end up paying for fraudulent usage.
            Credit rating, insurance rating, banning from online banking forced to pre pay online purchases.

            And for some it goes far enough that scammers take over property with help from bent lawyers.

            The effort to do it would almost certainly cost FAR MORE than the amount they could possibly gain from
            attempting to acquire any of my asset.

            Exactly the kind of statement scammers love.

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              Please, posters get back and on topic Firefox, Telemetry

              The thread is not about dont worry I am fine, you are until you get hit. Then its very late time to learn.

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                Anyway. The telemetrie was invented by the big bang, before, space and time did no exist into the universe. Controlled by God ?
                … Since then, I can say: Happy New Year for all !

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                  FYI Summary of Firefox telemetry links:
                  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/telemetry-clientid
                  https://telemetry.mozilla.org/
                  https://missioncontrol.telemetry.mozilla.org/#/
                  https://www.howtogeek.com/557929/how-to-see-and-disable-the-telemetry-data-firefox-collects-about-you/
                  https://gist.github.com/MrYar/751e0e5f3f1430db7ec5a8c8aa237b72

                  What is Firefox telemetry?
                  Telemetry is a Firefox feature that collects valuable engineering data about the browsing experience in order to make Firefox perform better. Telemetry measures and collects browser data such as performance, hardware, usage and customizations.

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                    I have not tried this site; Came across it in an article.
                    It supposedly gives you a set of profile settings based on choices you make with the explanations given for the options.
                    Thoughts? Maybe default bookmark?

                    https://ffprofile.com/

                    Computers are like air conditioners. They work fine until you start opening Windows. ~Author Unknown

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                      Last link Brian mentioned seems pretty reasonable as a template.
                      https://gist.github.com/MrYar/751e0e5f3f1430db7ec5a8c8aa237b72

                      Profilemaker is new to me, the code is on

                      https://github.com/allo-/firefox-profilemaker

                      Have to create a couple of profiles from different locations with corresponding locales, time zones, and take a look
                      what it comes up with. Problem as usual is Mozilla changes features/config setting names so fast that a list is probably
                      the more up to date option.

                      Chicken egg problem is if you start firefox with an internet connection you are already fingerprinted. Minimum then is delete
                      all mozilla from home and make a nice new machine id.

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                        fingerprinted. Minimum then is delete
                        all mozilla from home and make a nice new machine id.

                        If a user installs widevine or other DRM (digital rights management), the firefox EME component integrates UUID of boot partition into its encryption key.

                        I (am not up to speed on latest firefox versions and) am unaware of any firefox component which directly reads the file /var/lib/dbus/machine-id
                        Prior discussion of how machine-id is generated, and how to reset the machine-id string: /#post-50665

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                          Thanks skidoo, and the reminder of older post,
                          be interesting to see if the widevine setup will run ok from a stick, pretty sure it will, what else is incorporated
                          in to encryption key and tracking tools no sure knowledge, just a lot of possibilitys one such cpu id.

                          Problem here is schools and university application demands, unless or until the EU wakes up which is very unlikely
                          privacy is pretty much dead for anyone with a phone, computer, and lesser known to many, a modern vehicle which is constantly
                          sending data to the importer, manufacturer and any agency or interested paying party.

                          /etc/machine-id is the one FF reputedly reads. if I am correct that will still always be regenerated next boot on system d machines
                          if removed, More likely browsers look in several places. According to several reputable privacy sites Firefox also has a compiled in
                          unique ID.

                          Ungoogled Chromium states the machine id is not read, (most?) other chrome based browsers pass on all the tracking info they can find.
                          Crashing and freezing issues on chrome based browsers are graphics acceleration related. Switch off get stability.
                          LibreWolf is also pretty clean, until users start trading tips which weaken privacy then login to gmail. ouch.

                          Tor and anonymous, believe it if you wish, trust in it I do not.

                          Regarding add a startup file which deletes the uuid file at each boot (causing a new, randomly-generated, uuid to be generated)
                          suggestion on how best to do that welcome. up to now deleting randomly on shutdown which is definitely sub optimum..

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                            what else is incorporated
                            in to encryption key and tracking tools no sure knowledge, just a lot of possibilitys one such cpu id.

                            Firefox running on windows does indeed utilize cpu id (serial number). On linux, last I checked… the only hardware id factored into the EME key is UUID of boot partition.

                            Should we worry / care that mozilla knows (pingsender @ firefox launch) which exact machine we’re hailing from…

                            Firefox also has a compiled in unique ID.

                            compiled in… does not a yield personally identifiable fingerprinting detail.

                            …considering that we’re saddled with UUIDs based on:
                            — firefox installation datetime, accurate to the millisecond (remains undisturbed during version upgrades)
                            — the creation date of each firefox profile, accurate to the millisecond

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