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dukester
I don’t feel a gui is needed for every utility including ufw. Where does it end?
Maybe so! But as far as I’m concerned, the issue is not one of (g)ufw vs ufw.
It’s about the fact that ufw is indeed installed but not enabled by default.
After a LiveUSB install or whatever, there is zero indication that the firewall is not enabled.
A person installing antiX for the first has to stumble on the FAQ in order to be made aware of this.
IMHO, it would be beneficial if the install process included post install recommendations. Maybe it does and I just missed it.--
dukester
Brian Masinick
I don’t think that the tools that have been recently suggested have been forced upon anyone. The discussions are merely to make scripts available.
Not all scripts have to be placed into a repository; it doesn’t make sense to do that for something containing 5-20 lines of code. Some of the larger scripts might be useful to be packaged, but it’s not mandatory either.A good example of a script that was given a package was the often discussed FT10 tool. It is currently available as a package. To my knowledge it is not a standard tool, but it can be optionally installed.
To the best of my knowledge, none of these discussions impact the intent to keep antiX a lean, efficient distribution. Anyone is free to add their own scripts to their own work and even remaster them. That’s all part of freedom of choice, but if there is any implication that these are to be included anywhere, such matters are the choice of anticapitalista, not you or me, though comments are certainly read and considered.
Anyone who loves scripts and DOES want a system full of them is free to make their own derivatives as much and as often as they please, giving full credit to any and all software used and properly citing those efforts in anything that is publicly published.
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techore
We don’t agree. So be it, but are you going to update the wiki?
If not, give me permissions and I will do it. Documentation is foundational.
techore
Maybe so! But as far as I’m concerned, the issue is not one of (g)ufw vs ufw.
Agreed. I am not angry nor do I desire to be in conflict.
PPC
@techore – I don’t think anyone here on this thread desires conflict- there are some disagreements, just that, like in any house.
I created, and posted the tiny script that serves as GUI for enabling/disabling ufw, because anticapitalista showed interest in having it available (and possibly even in the Control Center, I assumed).
You are 100% correct when you say the documentation is important (even if 95% of people does net ever read it, not even when it’s easily available here in the forum… sigh).
I’ve not read the official documentation in a loooong time- I have no idea how up to date it is. But it should state that antiX full comes with a firewall, but disabled by default! That is, in fact, a very important piece of info!PS: any input about the script would be greatly appreciated!
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techore
@PPC, thank you!
anticapitalista
This is from page 1 of the FAQ
How to enable the Firewall?
antiX includes configured iptables Gufw may be more user-friendly and can be installed. Once installed, to set it up go to Control Centre-→ Network-→ Manage Firewall
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
Robin
Sorry, anticapitalista. The entry „Manage Firewall” is not present for me (not on antiX 23 64bit full, as well not on antiX 21/22 32bit full) Will it show up only after the installation of guvf?
Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.
@Robin: like anticapitalista said: “Gufw may be more user-friendly and can be installed. Once installed, to set it up go to Control Centre…”
Edit: that’s why I think it’s a good idea, to have the GUI toggle to handle that, out of the box, without having to install any extra package
- This reply was modified 2 months, 2 weeks ago by PPC.
I see. I had expected to find the entry present already, and when clicking it, to come up with some concise informational dialog about gui needs to get installed, maybe containing even a button to install it. After having installed the gui package, the cc entry would work then as anticapitalista described to configure it. That would make sense from the aspect of user workflow.
Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.
Brian Masinick
We don’t agree. So be it, but are you going to update the wiki?
If not, give me permissions and I will do it. Documentation is foundational.
You are welcome to update the wiki. We always need people who are willing to contribute in a variety of ways.
It’s been a while since I’ve updated the wiki myself. It may be necessary to create an account or identify yourself; I don’t remember the exact steps.
As long as you are willing, please join in at your convenience.--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
I did look for the antiX Wiki and I found it at
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_PageThere is a Create account in the top right of the page to update the Wiki.
It appears that “anyone can update the wiki” (and it may not require an account).
Anyone interested may explore the page and contribute to it.--
Brian Masinickon my system, after toggling on UFW, it was off after I rebooted
I think I found out why – I was running antiX 22 runit. When I tried this in my home antiX 19 (non runit version, just regular sysv), the firewall was on even after rebooting – perhaps something to add to antiX’s runit versions, @anticapitalista?
techore
There is a Create account in the top right of the page to update the Wiki.
It appears that “anyone can update the wiki” (and it may not require an account).
Anyone interested may explore the page and contribute to it.Thank you, Brian.
I am monitoring the discussion and based on what I am seeing, it may not make sense for me to update with the introduction of a GUI app. I’ll let the dust settle but good information for the future.
caprea
perhaps something to add to antiX’s runit versions
I would guess as long as ufw is not added and activated at startup in “runit service manager” it will be disabled after boot.
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