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Anonymous
Bring back CENI, otherwise I cannot use WiFi
Put a lot of thoughts into this as well as a lot of testing, so appreciate my freaking effort and the time you can save:
* music player: quod libet (extremly lightweight and extremely versitile, incl. state of art tagging, suitable for large collections)
* pic viewer: mirage (the fastest on the planet, OMG speed)
* mail client: claws mail (very fast, lightweight, efficient, plugins)
* file manager: gentoo file manager (rock solid-written in C, two pane, sleek, fast), SpaceFM (lightweight, fast, multipanel, tabbed) – must fix thumbs for jpeg webp png avif jpeg200/jp2 jpeg(arythmetical coding), jpeg(floating point). Must fix thumbs for videos (av1, avc1, vp9 – all of them 🙂
* mpv (extremely lightweight, rock solid video player, supports vaapi and youtube via youtube-dl, e.g.: $ mpv –hwdec=vaapi –vo=gpu https://youtube/somevideo)
* fluxbox – desktop environment (fast, efficient, lightweight, easy to configure, own panel, scaling, themes, documentation, reset button, in my opinion beats IceWM and JWM- tested, used, config in the text file for bigger panel size is a must tweak),
* ceni network manager (no nonsense ethernet/wifi connection, fast as hell, extremely lightweight, others stand no chance)
* runint init and service manager (no nonsense PID simplicity, fastest and simplest on the planet, no bullshit just KISS principle, easy documentation)
* picom or compton (very, very resource efficient, I repeat: super-lightweight standalone compositor for having Sync to Vertical Blank, i.e. zero tearing, use: $ kill your current compositor, then $ compton –vsync opengl-swc –backend glx You’re welcome)
* f2fs file system for your SSD/NVMe for root and Home (fast, robust and BEST for flash storage device, don’t be fooled by other telling sth different! e.g. mkfs.f2fs -o2 /dev/sdx- check gentoo docs for f2fs and kernel compile parameters for consistency check)
* udev rules for I/O scheduler (none for NVMe, BFQ Linaro for spinning, mq-deadline for SSD)
* zram
* zswap
* links (2) internet browser (config/menu with “esc” button and check LCD instead of CRT, must have for heavy websites)
* NetSurf web browser (lightweight, actively developed browser with own engine, secure, no spyware, no bullshit)
* FF 78 ESR (extremely configured via about:config + encrpted SNI of cloudflare + gfx.webrender to yes + many others…)
* Falkon – if you must have qtwebengine (ungooglifed, stripped of bullshit webkit).
* Leafpad text editor (lightweight, lightweight, stable, stable).
* nano for sure (gets the job done, easy way)
* kernel 5.4 LTS (stable 🙂
* xenocara for xorg
* gstreamer vaapi (its a must ootb for 99% of laptops), ffmpeg, and so on
* GraphicsMagic (but not Image Magic, see GM website)
* ALSA instead of pulse audio
* zstd compression
* the latest emerge from Gentoo as package manager (its fast now, one of the best if not the best, power!)
* eix from gentoo (state of art package search with extremely good display structure of results)
* Alacritty terminal (uses GPU as back-end to be fast)
* Xterm (need no introduction, just works)
* IBM Plex Fonts (open font type, medium for systemwide), Liberations (open type), Noto (open type, medium) – all have FULL support for UTF-8 and are very professional with good licensing
* Full Infinality patches with color filtering (type 3 with filter of 45, full gamma, known tweaks for know fonts etc) with patched cairo and patched freetype.
* nftables for firewall (ufw is garbage, produces bunch of complete garbage logs!, pollutes cache with GB of garbage files, wtf!),
* pdf viewer! GNU GV (because its GNU! Its graphical user interface for the Ghostscript interpreter and you can find it here: https://www.gnu.org/software/gv/)
* office suite, hmmm. ZOHO (writer: https://www.zoho.com/writer/ and desktop app: https://www.zoho.com/writer/desktop-app.html or spreadsheet: https://www.zoho.com/sheet/ and many many more…). {couldn’t think of anything lightweight…GTK3 is not lightweight…}
anticapitalista
ceni IS included on all of our isos (except net versions).
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
Xecure
CENI is not gone, it is still available (preinstalled) and working on antiX 19. After some time, we developed a script for easy switch between connman and ceni and will probably be included in the next version of antiX 19. You will probably get it as an update for antix-goodies package for antiX 19.
As you like lightweight, you could probably help craft a wiki article for how to get antiX even more lightweight, asn we could include the list of lightweight programs you suggest.
antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.anticapitalista
Many of the apps you mention are already included on antiX
eg
mirage
claws mail
SpaceFM
mpv
fluxbox
ceni
runit versions of antiX isos available
links2
FF 78 ESR
leafpad
nano
ALSA instead of pulse audioPhilosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
Don’t hate me for what I say below. I love Antix and I am sharing honestly my testing results. Some might be difficult to swallow for developers. But its just my result of testing.
1. Font rendering or (rather complete lack of it) is a big issue for me. Its number 1 showstopper for me. Its my No1 complaint everywhere. And when I discovered perfect rendering in one distro (out of 100 on distrowatch) I couldn’t stand it even more. So here I am and will never bow down to anyone saying “I don’t see any problem”. I freaking do. And ban me, hate me for what I will say: ****** (autocensoring).
2. Second showstopper is the following: this intel network manager that substituted ceni (so ceni couldn’t be used, you had to uninstall this intel developed network manager, which didn’t work for me at all. It resulted in zero network connectivity for me. Sorry guys 2 clicks with ceni, pass and I had connection, that intel substituted CENI and boom, no connection whatsoever. If you can’t use terminal, don’t use Antix. [that intel network manager worked for me on MATE+openRC Arch… so its not complete garbage, but here is a no go…]
3. Another thing at that time just before you switched to that intel developed network manager, I used Antix (was it 18?) and went down just to 80MB of RAM usage. I had default wallpaper rendered. I didn’t change anything just killed IceWM adn used Fluxbox (with text file edited, so the panel was not so freaking tiny!). And it went down to 80MB of RAM on idle! Then sudddnly came new Artix and….2x to 3x more RAM usage.
4. Another thing that I literally hate (besides No 1 above) is lack of Sync to VBlank. Compton rocks and it should run (with the parameters above) out of the box, so new users shouldn’t be forced to search for a solution (tearing of desktop, tearing of videos, jerky experience and even when you know what to do you have to find out it should be compton or picom and then you are forced to hunt for appropriate command line to properly run it, so the above is a must).
ModdIt
Mods please delete, first post dissapeared.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by ModdIt.
so spantix is telling us we are all a bunch of peabrains using bunk with antiX, you now have produced the greatest lightweight distro on the planet to prove it.
So where can we download it ready for use and testing, in 32 and 64 bit, so as to appreciate your fantastac freaking effort, perfect testing, customisation and
the time we can save.By the way I do not hate you for the post, just my thoughts would not be considered best of british language and get me banned,
ufw is garbage, produces bunch of complete garbage logs!, pollutes cache with GB of garbage files, wtf!), EXACTLY WTF bullshit.. I mean garbage you wrote.
By the way using Cloudflare with Firefox is not a very good idea. It is a metadata tracker.
Don’t hate me for what I say below.
It’s good to hear a fresh perspective. Often though — as reflected throughout many prior newcomer posts, in this forum and elsewhere — the perspective is borne of ignorance (due to lack of understanding/insight).
> 1.
Almost certainly, this can be solved, but you will need to provide details // system specs ~~ don’t leave would-be troubleshooter assistants guessing why, on YOUR display, the OOTB result is unsatisfactory> 2.
FYI, other antiX 19 users have similarly mentioned “the change, away from ceni” as a stumbling point. On the other hand, some users have mentioned that they welcome the change. Go figure.> 3.
Searching the forum, you’ll find quite a few topics mentioning howto//tips for reducing memory overhead.
Do you know to check, and customize, which of the various services (daemons) are autostarted?
“sudo sysv-rc-conf”
(Press “Q’ to quit. Changes to the settings are registered immediately and take effect at next boot.)
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Too often, users are prone to blaming “the distro” or “the window manager” for the amount of memory “used”. We each have the freedom (the responsibility) to adjust the as-shipped defaults to suit our individual needs.> 4. Another thing that I literally hate
Yeah, let’s bitch about bloat, and memory overhead… then talk outa the other cheek and demand (showstopper! a must!) that compton or another compositor should “run [..] out of the box”. Here I’ll take a turn at mentioning two personal tripping points in the as-shipped status quo: single-click activation of items in file manager, and lack of an autostarted clipboard manager.* pic viewer: mirage (the fastest on the planet, OMG speed)
Hey, you reminded me to mention that I’ve forked and modded mirage (now named “skiview”) to add a LOT of additional features, but have never packaged n published the result. At the moment, I have several other projects underway, but I’ve made a note to self about publishing//announcing it here in the forum. On a related note, our beloved mirage is one of many packaged programs which are “on the chopping block” due to removal of python2 (and GTK2) from most distros.
IBM Plex Fonts (open font type, medium for systemwide),
Liberations (open type), Noto (open type, medium) – all have FULL support for UTF-8
and are very professional with good licensingWhelp, I’m not a fontmongerer (?) but your post piqued my curiosity
https://fonts.google.com/specimen/IBM+Plex+Sans
Yikes! 2.5MB disk space for just this ONE font family
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Yeah, no thanks… the too-tight kerning, at 9pt, is unreadable for me
and regardless of pt size, confusion between uppercase i, vs lowercase L
For me, the Plex just doesn’t seem outstanding compared to
the Noto, or Ubuntu (UbuntuOne?) fontsets
(both of which I consider to be “too bloaty” to stuff into a distributed ISO)edited to add:
Grrrr… the forum software is squishing that embedded screencap to smaller dimensions, causing it to look blurry.
https://i.vgy.me/r6WPky.pngxenocara for xorg
> appreciate my freaking effort and the time you can save
For many of these laundry list items, you put zero effort into explaining “what it is, why it has merit”.
From a cursory websearch: “xenocera is a platform blablah…”
but I can’t find a single project utilizing its purported (and barely described) wonderfulness
so I’ll save time by not investigating it further, ehSpaceFM (lightweight, fast, multipanel, tabbed) – must fix thumbs for jpeg webp png avif jpeg200/jp2 jpeg(arythmetical coding), jpeg(floating point). Must fix thumbs for videos (av1, avc1, vp9 – all of them
jpeg2000
izzit still “a thing”? Was it ever, really, a thing?
Sigh. We were promised that viewer applications would be able to display zone-mapped tooltips, onhover, read from embedded metadata…I have a strong personal disdain for the
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“icon view” mode featured in file managers.I also cherish (demand, actually) the ability to suppress creation and display of “thumbernails” by the file manager. On a related note… the debian spaceFM v1.06 package added a dependency on libffmpegthumbnailer-dev. No thanks ~~ so I chose to self-compile, invokikng the –disable-video-thumbnails build-time option provided by spaceFM’s (now incommunicado) author. Although the spaceFM preferences do provide ability (“max filesize 0”) to suppress generation of thumbnails (a shout of thanks to dolphin_oracle for tipping me about this), still… thumbnail (re)generation is one of the most computationally intense tasks performed by an all-in-one -der file manager. Anyhow…
> must fix thumbs for jpeg webp png avif jpeg200/jp2 jpeg(arythmetical coding), jpeg(floating point).
> Must fix thumbs for videos (av1, avc1, vp9 – all of themAny “fix” will come from, will depend upon, the degree of functionality afforded by the underlying dependent libraries. You should investigate the availability of backported package library(ies), for instance “libffmpegthumbnailer”
edited to add:
a good “explainer” what is webp, why should you (we) care? https://www.hongkiat.com/blog/webp-guide/
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(still not available via debian package) ref: Feb 2020 debian bug ticket #951113
^—— can’t embed a link. The forum spamfilter is rejecting this post due finding ‘c g i’ mentioned in a url?
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