Future of antiX – Reflections

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      Not to dwell on some recent contentious discussions, which lead to future of this forum put in question by antiX’ owner – anticapitalista:
      – We are the people who want antiX.
      – We want antiX and forum to continue the current strategy lead by anticapitalista.
      – Temporary difficulties aside, antiX will continue development work to further enhance this path of being the most dexterous Linux distro.
      – antiX 21 Runit JWM/IceWM is already close to perfection as it is and could be the preferable platform to run for years to come. Particularly Live implementation, which has no equal out there…
      – Hopefully anticapitalista has some ideas what is next on his development plate for the good of humanity…
      – Has such time arrived perhaps that antiX’ owner might want consider correcting his forum username to antixcapitalista, to cement the fact that antiX and it’s owner are inseparable… There is no antiX without him.

      The above points reflect also expression of my thanks and appreciation of the antiX’ owner’s strategy in Linux world.

      Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
      https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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        Hello,
        I use antiX a lot and have participated in some of the testing of the alpha and beta versions of antiX21.
        I am very supportive of antiX.
        I notice and appreciate that the Moderators are very dedicated in their support of the antiX forum.
        In a previous post, @anticapitalista had expressed a thought to close down the antiX forum.
        If the antiX forum is closed, will antiX development still continue? If antiX development continues even if there is not antiX forum, how will news of development be communicated?
        Thank you.

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          Hi calciumsodium,
          in the post I read the consideration was to possibly move completely to the parallell forum
          at MX site not to kill the most advanced distribution on the planet.
          My not so humble opinion, the best of the best. We here are extremely thankful for all the work
          anticapitalista and development team have done.

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            It is my hope that this distribution does not end, but I have seen a few very good distributions come and go in the past, only to be renamed and revived under a different name with a few different participants, but with updated image, vision, and purpose. Other less successful distributions have quickly come and disappeared without much notice at all.

            A distribution like ours, even when an eventual time arrives that the original founder and elder members of the community depart, I’m confident that there will be a successor in some shape and form. Those here with interests would be wise to learn, adapt, and contribute.

            A perfect example is the former MEPIS distribution. Without a doubt, Warren Woodford had a great deal to do with MEPIS, and yet within two years of the demise of MEPIS, a group of people from the MEPIS Lovers Forum, which included anticapitalista, joined together to form one of today’s most popular distributions, MX Linux. In that case, the major forum contributors to the previous distribution helped form the new distribution. There’s no reason why history cannot repeat itself again if necessary. I’m in no hurry to have that take place, but I’m not worried either. History backs up my reasons for optimism.

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              I hope Antix rolls on forever…so people can see how excellent simplity is and move on with things of their own flavor.Gemeboiz wont be a product of the evolution.
              I’ve run them all. Antix is the best of the best.
              I’m a Debian sid guy and Openbox animal and lean that way daily
              I always recommend Antix to semi n00bz and show them the tweaks.
              Those with above an 80 IQ freak out and love theming and toying with the desktops.
              Those with lesser I steer them to LMDE or Solus…ya know…CEO and politician types

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                A distribution like ours, even when an eventual time arrives that the original founder and elder members of the community depart, I’m confident that there will be a successor in some shape and form. Those here with interests would be wise to learn, adapt, and contribute.

                Indeed… I see antiX as different than any other in the sense that all is done right here. Simplicity, efficiency and reliability. It would be a significant waste if it fades in oblivion some day. The owner has a unique vision and leadership that will be hard to fill in. At least not in one person…
                Considering such possibility might become reality some day, at least there is some time left before antiX 21 becomes outdated.
                But hopefully anti will still be leading in full force with energy and vision for many years to come. Perhaps the great Music and Poetry of Grup Yorum will be his energizer…
                Either way he decides I wish him the best for what he has done.

                Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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                  Reviving this old thread for a reason:
                  – Since the the time of the preceding posts anticapitalista published antiX 22, which is an evidence antiX is still alive and evolving.
                  – Formal release of antiX 22, which could be considered a modest move forward includes though an important distinction: It is elogind and libelogind0 free, replacing these with seatd. This is an important change as *elogind* is another piece of the Linux, which is much like systemd. And antiX principle is to shed such baggage.
                  – Although only anticapitalista knows what is next and how much longer antiX will continue further evolvement but considering that making antiX *elogind*-free requires modification of quite a few software packages by anticapitalista on continual basis means to me that anticapitalista still has plenty of energy to devote to antiX. Otherwise he would not make such move – to eliminate elogind.
                  – Assuming such energy will also be used to pursue further goals, hopefully those will include newer technologies as well, such as sound, so as to even stay ahead of other distros.
                  – Grup Yorum songs can continue to be an inspiration to not give up the struggle to continue further product improvement…

                  Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                  https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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                    antiX keeps evolving – it’s localization keeps improving, and even a few of our own scripts and getting better (example: The “Default Apps” script just got upgraded by BobC and it’s about to get even better; I’m proposing some changes to allow special characters in IceWM’s “Recent Files” menu, etc)…

                    My old 32bits HP laptop, with an updated antiX 21 is connected to my TV, turning it into a “smartTV” (or rather I’m using it as my laptop’s screen, to access Youtube and also watch some movie freebies I downloaded from Internet Archive).

                    P.

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                      I will post a pic of a different look for antiX’s IceWM desktop to see if anyone likes it. No major code changes at this point, just settings.

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                        Being a long time user myself since ver. 7.

                        I can just say antiX polished up quite nicely. 1/2 the features are even unknown to me. Like hitting the cpu graph in icewm toolbar to bring up lxtask.

                        Top and Htop was all I knew in ver 7. One thing I know about tomorrow. It’ll come. With or without me.

                        If I am around. Survival depends on how well you adapt. I guess I’ll adapt to what ever corner I am forced into.
                        Been doing PPC TV trick for years. Even run wifi for antiX on the shop computer with a cannibalized Direct TV sattelite dish.
                        Runs fast. That is fastest wifi updater around my place. I don’t overthink it and don’t know why.

                        Sometimes I drive a crooked road to get my mind straight.
                        Not all who Wander are Lost.
                        I'm not outa place. I'm from outer space.

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                          I’m glad we keep releasing software and package updates; as I stated several months ago, I’m not concerned about it at all; I’m here, in fact, with a ISO snapshot of antiX 21 which is actually an up-to-date version, equivalent to antiX 22 with updates as recent as a few hours ago at most.

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                            antiX already is a great system, but it could be even better with some tweaks (that cost 0 system resources)

                            And as always, my suggestions to improve antiX’s usability/make it more modern looking are:
                            – a nice theme (I loved the default dark theme we got a while ago)
                            – a cleaner menu (for example: moving App-select to the top, so it’s the first menu entry, where most people expect a “Search app’s” option to be), remove some separators
                            – including, by default skippy-xd (a wonderful and tiny window switcher that offers real time previews of non minimized windows)
                            – have a GUI to install .deb files
                            – have an option to install and correctly setup Flatpaks in Package Installer (I can help with that)
                            – Use Skidoo’s adapted Package Installer (from MX’s) that also allows, in a tab, access to the Debian Repo- avoiding the need to use both P.I. and Synaptic- users can get all their apps in one single place- advanced users can still run synaptic (I use it all the time)
                            – Keep increasing localization of the system – it’s now almost perfect, in Portuguese, for example (some .desktop files still require some localization
                            – Have a very explicit warning, on the web page, the forum, whatever, that users can easily switch rox-filer for zzzfm (the single biggest complaint from people trying out antiX is rox-filer)- yes I know how powerful rox is… but it’s too different and harder to use, from what regular people normally are used to- I guess that’s why anti decided to also include zzzfm (note: I used antiX for months before realizing that it included, then spacefm- and the notion that we can change “desktops” that are a mix of window managers and file mangers was as alien to me as it is for some 99% of people trying out antiX)
                            – Maybe include some of adaptations I make for FT10’s ZZZfm (the usual default favorites + trash can + Search for Shared SNB folders + Access Cloud Drives- that would make antiX much more feature rich costing 0 system resources, and a couple hundred kb’s of ISO space…
                            – add some apps to Package Installer (I suggested FT10 and also MX’s build of Foliate (ebook reader)- that could be just copied to antiX’s repo’s), a nice app would be Xine media player- it does magic on extremely old systems- who would guess I can perfectly play full HD videos on a 32bits laptop that’s about 20 years old using that app?

                            P.

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                              antiX already is a great system, but it could be even better with some tweaks (that cost 0 system resources)

                              And as always, my suggestions to improve antiX’s usability/make it more modern looking are:
                              – a nice theme (I loved the default dark theme we got a while ago)
                              – a cleaner menu (for example: moving App-select to the top, so it’s the first menu entry, where most people expect a “Search app’s” option to be), remove some separators
                              – including, by default skippy-xd (a wonderful and tiny window switcher that offers real time previews of non minimized windows)
                              – have a GUI to install .deb files
                              – have an option to install and correctly setup Flatpaks in Package Installer (I can help with that)
                              – Use Skidoo’s adapted Package Installer (from MX’s) that also allows, in a tab, access to the Debian Repo- avoiding the need to use both P.I. and Synaptic- users can get all their apps in one single place- advanced users can still run synaptic (I use it all the time)
                              – Keep increasing localization of the system – it’s now almost perfect, in Portuguese, for example (some .desktop files still require some localization
                              – Have a very explicit warning, on the web page, the forum, whatever, that users can easily switch rox-filer for zzzfm (the single biggest complaint from people trying out antiX is rox-filer)- yes I know how powerful rox is… but it’s too different and harder to use, from what regular people normally are used to- I guess that’s why anti decided to also include zzzfm (note: I used antiX for months before realizing that it included, then spacefm- and the notion that we can change “desktops” that are a mix of window managers and file mangers was as alien to me as it is for some 99% of people trying out antiX)
                              – Maybe include some of adaptations I make for FT10’s ZZZfm (the usual default favorites + trash can + Search for Shared SNB folders + Access Cloud Drives- that would make antiX much more feature rich costing 0 system resources, and a couple hundred kb’s of ISO space…
                              – add some apps to Package Installer (I suggested FT10 and also MX’s build of Foliate (ebook reader)- that could be just copied to antiX’s repo’s), a nice app would be Xine media player- it does magic on extremely old systems- who would guess I can perfectly play full HD videos on a 32bits laptop that’s about 20 years old using that app?

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                              Good suggestions!

                              If these options are not provided in a future release, perhaps a creative packager could create a meta-package that could either provide or reference the packages and scripts necessary to accomplish these features. Failing that, there’s always other places on the Internet where the creation of these capabilities could be made and saved. Either of these things could be done, in fact, at any point in time if someone has the time, skill, and interest.

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                                Not to dwell on some recent contentious discussions, which lead to future of this forum put in question by antiX’ owner – anticapitalista:

                                @olsztyn, please link the post. I must have missed it.

                                antiX already is a great system, but it could be even better with some tweaks (that cost 0 system resources)

                                @ppc, respectfully, I disagree. Hear me out before dismissing me.

                                1. All those tweaks require *time* of someone to develop, test, and maintain.
                                2. I cannot speak for other antiX users but I have no interest in your list of items to be included in antiX but that is okay for (see #3)
                                3. antiX core permits you to roll-your-own antiX or create an antiX *whatever* Respin to share.

                                You have a list of things you want to add to antiX. Go for it! It may not be my flavor of a DE but love to give it a test drive and provide feedback or, time permitting, help by posting ideas, fixes, or whatnot in the “antiX Respin” forum area.

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                                  @olsztyn, please link the post. I must have missed it.

                                  @techore:
                                  Sorry. Although the first post from May mentions this reference I am reluctant to dig out those discussions due to their negative connotations. I think it is better to put those discussions behind us.

                                  @ppc, respectfully, I disagree. Hear me out before dismissing me.

                                  1. All those tweaks require *time* of someone to develop, test, and maintain.
                                  2. I cannot speak for other antiX users but I have no interest in your list of items to be included in antiX but that is okay for (see #3)
                                  3. antiX core permits you to roll-your-own antiX or create an antiX *whatever* Respin to share.

                                  I completely concur with your assessment on all three points. It is a dexterous and unique balance of simplicity, utmost efficiency and functionality that antiX is today. Adding unnecessary and unproductive complexities, dependencies and half cooked trinkets only open up the opportunities for departing from such perfectly stable and reliable system as I think antiX is now. Personally I am running antiX 22 Runit with JWM configured for aesthetics and functionality, time proven for utmost reliability. I would not be looking forward to antiX departing from such solid and reliable architecture.

                                  Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                                  https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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