General problem with less commercial/popular web browsers

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      Link leads to posts from 2017 and 2018.

      Before quoting please go to Kuketz and GHacks among others to get some up to date info. We are in 2021.
      Browsers evolve quickly as do tracking methods and what a user can do to mitigate not stop Browser fingerprinting
      and other methods.

      when a user starts any browser with an internet connection then wants to make security related settings it is like closing the gate after the dog has run away.
      Poison canvas data is for example off in palemoon.
      Geolocation on
      certificates are queried by default
      searches go through cloudflare
      there are other settings to consider on top.

      There is a lot of info in the forum regarding how to secure a browser, but the goalposts move every release.


        Sorry sir.

        You’re right, and I kind of already knew that when I mentioned thread is from 4 years ago. What I thought is “4 years ago, just try doing the same test again today” (I’m NO expert at all).
        Also I wanted to see how much “chattering” there was with browser just default startup first, then see if there was difference by “tightening” security settings.
        But it seems I ignored more than I thought…

        I totally ignored the first website you mention, and only barely heard about the second one. Guess I need to take a look at them (though first one is in German… if we’re talking about the same one that is).

        Sorry again; I just tried to share some findings…

        By the way, just forgot to mention: at least according to the “tests” made, Waterfox is also similar to Firefox. Slightly less, but still.

        Brian Masinick

          It is OK, ctcx, we are all learning about something (at least we ought to be, while our brains still have remaining capacity).

          Our friend Moddit has considerable and practical experience in this area.

          As far as the ¨chatter” and browser activity, it all depends on our sensitivity to information and whether we care about what a tool captures regarding our usage (or not).

          Personally, I don´t care much. I have been using technology all of my life. While I am certain that a lot of resources and sources know PLENTY about me, it has not YET led to any serious issues.

          Google wants to ¨know” a lot because they tailor pages and information, as well as advertising to direct or redirect us to places they either sell or promote. That certainly benefits them, but it does not necessarily imply evil intent. Each of us is still free to choose, shop, ignore, or bypass anything related to our ẗendencies and browsing habits. Now if that leads to someone spying on others in a more deeply personal and ominous way, or induce bodily harm, those are other matters; I have not seen anything remotely close to that personally, though it COULD take place – COULD is a BIG stretch and seems like paranoia to me, but in other places, who knows what actually happens.

          Here is what is definitely true: as long as there are options and alternatives, we all have the right to choose. Those who are SUPER keen and intent can even find browser source code, analyze it, modify it and rebuild it, taking out whatever is offensive to them – that is a LOT of work, no question about it. Personally I can live with what we have, though secure stuff is (or seems) more “SAFE”.

          • This reply was modified 2 years, 5 months ago by Brian Masinick.

          Brian Masinick


            Hi ctcx,
            nothing to be sorry about, we are all travellers in a maze. We have little to no real privacy
            unless we throw away computer and phone, cover our faces in town because of cameras and facial recognition.
            Cut RFID out of cards and clothing. Do not drive a car we own, the number plate is sattelite readable on a clear day.
            Modern cars have to be fitted with automatic emergency call. Depending on how many phone towers are around pretty
            accurate, some have high grade GPS. Big Brother is by your side.

            With respect to google and paranoid sein, google belongs to alphabet, check the history. Nearly all searches
            are tapped and saved for who knows how long. With normal android phones play store tracks us day and night
            including precise location.
            Ever heard of google tracks, most never have and when they see the accesible part they are more than worried.

            Nothing can happen, years ago I went for a beer with my girlfriend of the day. I was followed day and night,
            my flat bugged, phone tapped I was harrased, arrested, threatened, an attempt was made to frame me.

            Why, because a person of interest was in a place at the same time I was. More than half a year after that beer
            I began to find out what was happening. It took about 1.5 years before I got some peace but I am still in a
            huge dossier for sure.

            Browsers are a prime tool especialy in regard to tracking. there are more lies about respecting privacy than
            fish in the sea, mozilla is in the forefront. They are not so pernicious themselves, just pass on all searches
            to google, no matter which search engine you use. Cloudflare is US based so patriot act affected and not to be
            trusted with regard to passing on data.

            Browser Fingerprinting, if you go here you get shit, scammer
            OK are
   or panopticlick are enlightening.


              In my situation, this is the browser that I use the most.
              Even on minimalist distros like Slitaz, it worked right out of the box, at least while they still published 32bit versions.


                Though, just to be sure, it might be worth tightening it even more.
                In my situation, this is the browser that I use the most.
                Even on minimalist distros like Slitaz, it worked right out of the box, at least while they still published 32bit versions.

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