Gimp error BABL version too old! Solved

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Edit: SOLVED. Debian Bug report is 949729

DO NOT keep debian multimedia enabled in your /etc/apt sources as
naming of packet babl which is present in both multimedia and standard stable repos causes apt to think
the package should be updated. An update will break gimp in this case.

1:0.4.0-dmo1 is deb multimedia package and should not be installed, “0.4.16-2 the correct package”.

ORIGINAL POST STARTS HERE.
Gimp not starting after fresh installation of full version from software center, or updating in this case.

Babl is showing version 0.1.72 even in Sid repo.

GIMP requires BABL version 0.1.74 or later.
Installed BABL version is 0.1.72.

Somehow you or your software packager managed
to install GIMP with an older BABL version.

Please upgrade to BABL version 0.1.74 or later.

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I’ll take a look.

I just managed to install gimp-full via package installer without issue.
gimp opens with no error messages.

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Thanks for checking,

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/babl
says [2020-02-28] babl 0.1.74-1 MIGRATED to testing but after changing repo to testing or sid and reloading
synaptic is stiii showing the older version.

I am guessing may be a result of apt preferences but they have not been changed by user.

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According to the gimp site, Stable versions 2.10.x require babl 0.1.62 or newer

https://www.gimp.org/source/

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Content edited out. Wrong lead waste of time. sorry.

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I posted above that I installed gimp-full via packageinstaller and it opens without error.

This is the output:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  dcraw gdal-data gimp-python libaec0 libamd2 libarmadillo9 libarpack2 libbabl-0.1-0 libcamd2 libccolamd2 libcharls2 libcholmod3 libdap25
  libdapclient6v5 libdapserver7v5 libepsilon1 libfreexl1 libfyba0 libgd3 libgdal20 libgdcm2.8 libgegl-0.4-0 libgegl-common libgeos-3.7.1
  libgeos-c1v5 libgeotiff2 libgimp2.0 libgmic1 libgphoto2-6 libgphoto2-port12 libgraphicsmagick++-q16-12 libgraphicsmagick-q16-3 libhdf4-0-alt
  libhdf5-103 libilmbase23 libkmlbase1 libkmlconvenience1 libkmldom1 libkmlengine1 libkmlregionator1 libkmlxsd1 liblensfun-data-v1 liblensfun1
  libmariadb3 libmetis5 libmypaint-1.3-0 libmypaint-common libnetcdf13 libodbc1 libogdi3.2 libopencv-core3.2 libopencv-imgcodecs3.2
  libopencv-imgproc3.2 libopencv-videoio3.2 libopenexr23 libpq5 libproj13 libqhull7 libraw19 libsocket++1 libspatialite7 libsuperlu5 libsz2 libtbb2
  libumfpack5 liburiparser1 libwebpdemux2 libxerces-c3.2 mariadb-common mysql-common odbcinst odbcinst1debian2 proj-data
Suggested packages:
  gphoto2 netpbm gimp-help-en | gimp-help gvfs-backends gmic libgd-tools geotiff-bin gdal-bin libgeotiff-epsg graphicsmagick-dbg libhdf4-doc
  libhdf4-alt-dev hdf4-tools libmyodbc odbc-postgresql tdsodbc unixodbc-bin ogdi-bin proj-bin
Recommended packages:
  mplayer proj-bin libgphoto2-l10n
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  dcraw gdal-data gimp gimp-cbmplugs gimp-data gimp-data-extras gimp-dcraw gimp-dds gimp-gap gimp-gluas gimp-gmic gimp-lensfun gimp-python
  gimp-texturize libaec0 libamd2 libarmadillo9 libarpack2 libbabl-0.1-0 libcamd2 libccolamd2 libcharls2 libcholmod3 libdap25 libdapclient6v5
  libdapserver7v5 libepsilon1 libfreexl1 libfyba0 libgd3 libgdal20 libgdcm2.8 libgegl-0.4-0 libgegl-common libgeos-3.7.1 libgeos-c1v5 libgeotiff2
  libgimp2.0 libgmic1 libgphoto2-6 libgphoto2-port12 libgraphicsmagick++-q16-12 libgraphicsmagick-q16-3 libhdf4-0-alt libhdf5-103 libilmbase23
  libkmlbase1 libkmlconvenience1 libkmldom1 libkmlengine1 libkmlregionator1 libkmlxsd1 liblensfun-data-v1 liblensfun1 libmariadb3 libmetis5
  libmypaint-1.3-0 libmypaint-common libnetcdf13 libodbc1 libogdi3.2 libopencv-core3.2 libopencv-imgcodecs3.2 libopencv-imgproc3.2
  libopencv-videoio3.2 libopenexr23 libpq5 libproj13 libqhull7 libraw19 libsocket++1 libspatialite7 libsuperlu5 libsz2 libtbb2 libumfpack5
  liburiparser1 libwebpdemux2 libxerces-c3.2 mariadb-common mysql-common odbcinst odbcinst1debian2 proj-data
0 upgraded, 84 newly installed, 0 to remove and 102 not upgraded.
Need to get 74.9 MB of archives.
After this operation, 280 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] 

Do you have any other repos enabled apart from the standard ones?

When do you get that error message?

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Still trying to figure out why this error came up.
will check sources then purge gimp and reinstall.

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@anticapitalista
Root cause was debian Bug #949729. bug . reporter Fri, 24 Jan 2020 00:52:04 -0800

Gimp can not find GEGL files and fails to open.

I was about ready to do a reinstall from scratch, It would have certainly been faster
but not have tought me something new. Maybe the post will help others should they hit this
annoying problem.

Updating the non free codecs from deb multimedia along with some other packages
must have pulled in the libgegl 1:0.4.0-dmo1 package which causes a conflict.
Root cause seems to be the handling of version numbers in debian multimedia repo.

Following below excerpt from the bug report allowed Gimp to install correctly.

installation of libgegl-common

/quote
libgegl-common : Conflicts: libgegl-0.4-0 (<= 1:0.4.0-dmo1) but 0.4.16-2 is to
be installed
/unquote

this seems to have fixed it

apt-get remove –purge gimp libgegl-0.4-0 libgegl-common

apt-get install gimp xsane

HTH

Richard A Lough

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So user error in enabling deb multimedia repo it seems.

It is not a Debian bug, but user error in keeping deb multimedia repo enabled (note this repo is NOT enabled by default on antiX).

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Agree on user error caveat, “due lack of information”. I consider it understandable, as do others because if Debian packet name in multimedia did not cause APT to think it finds a higher version the problem would be nil, users are not warned about danger of system breakage.
In this case a bug is filed, I have seen reports in the net from users of Debian and derivatives so the user is not alone in this problem. A proper naming system must be failsafe, not designed to crash.

Just to make it quite clear I am not bashing AntiX at any time, I spend a lot of time in supporting multiple users because this creation is way better than the trojan infected mother ship Debian these days.

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