Great Patriotic War

Forum Forums Kafeneio Chats In a Greek kafeneio Great Patriotic War

  • This topic has 52 replies, 13 voices, and was last updated Jul 9-9:37 pm by Robin.
Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 53 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #62596
    Member
    sw-ekb

      Hi people!

      80 years ago, the great trouble came to my native land – the attack of the Nazi third Reich’s troops on the cities and the village of my Motherland.
      On June 22, 1941 at 4:00 Moscow time, German troops cross the border of the USSR throughout the Black Sea to the White Sea. The very bloody and fierce war began in the history of mankind, the end of which was in Berlin on May 8, 1945.
      If there are people on the forum who are interested in this topic and who want to know the details – please ask your questions. I heard that outside of Russia, the Second World War gives little importance. For Russians, this war left a deep scar on the heart – in every family there is a deceased, a participant or those who survived it in the rear, there are families who died completely – as 6 million Jews.

      Map

      Invasion

      Defense

      Thanks!

      • This topic was modified 1 year, 10 months ago by sw-ekb.
      • This topic was modified 1 year, 10 months ago by sw-ekb.

      CPU: Single Core AMD Sempron 3000+ speed: 1607 MHz Kernel: 4.9.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64
      Mem: 940.3/2759.1 MiB Storage: 186.32 GiB Shell: bash 5.0.3

      #62621
      Forum Admin
      anticapitalista
        Helpful
        Up
        0
        ::

        @uxer – I’m removing your post.
        No holocaust deniers are welcome here.

        Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

        antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

        #62624
        Member
        ModdIt
          Helpful
          Up
          0
          ::

          Thanks anticapitalista,
          many of my relations were murdered in concentration camps by Nazi scum
          especially those from the Warsaw Ghetto..

          #62627
          Member
          sw-ekb
            Helpful
            Up
            0
            ::

            Thanks!

            to uxer: Ok, and what will you say about 6 Mil Poles, 8 Mil Germans, 16 mil Chinese, 30 Mil of Soviet people and among them were Jews (although the USSR did not divide people by nations, everyone was equal in the rights and obligations)? These victims also “invented”?

            WWII Casualties

            CPU: Single Core AMD Sempron 3000+ speed: 1607 MHz Kernel: 4.9.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64
            Mem: 940.3/2759.1 MiB Storage: 186.32 GiB Shell: bash 5.0.3

            #62628
            Anonymous
              Helpful
              Up
              0
              ::

              @anticapitalista
              @Moddit
              Why being so dogmatic?
              There are tons of facts against the story of holocaust — open data that everybody can check him/her-self.
              I would add links, but will you keep them?

              Isn’t antixforum.com a pro-freedom resource? You claim yourself being anti-fascist but you exert censorship which is a form of suppression. Is it just an inconsistency or an actual hypocrisy?

              Even if I am wrong, why not leave my post as it is and let people see that I am a scum?

              I request my post undelete, in its full-text original form.

              what will you say about 6 Mil Poles, 8 Mil Germans, 16 mil Chinese, 30 Mil of Soviet people

              The numbers can not be precise, yet those victims are real. On holocaust victims read above.

              everyone was equal

              Everyone was equal but some were more equal. As it is now even in the most egalitarian societies. As it has always been, and will always be. Anywhere. This is our nature.

              although the USSR did not divide people by nations

              Didn’t it?
              “the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish”
              https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-was-mostly-jewish/
              http://www.truthinourtime.com/2013/01/24/list-of-jews-in-soviet-russia/
              A double-entry bookkeeping.
              One group holds together while telling other groups to lose their identities.

              #62631
              Forum Admin
              anticapitalista
                Helpful
                Up
                0
                ::

                @uxer Once again, you deny the holocaust and cover it up this denial via ‘alternative’ facts/interpretations.
                You also post links to discredited anti-Semitic (anti Jewish) nonsense.
                There are NO ‘alternative’ facts/interpretations as far as the holocaust is concerned. It is not being dogmatic, it is telling the truth.
                You and all holocaust deniers are the lying dogmatists.
                This is your final warning.

                • This reply was modified 1 year, 10 months ago by anticapitalista.

                Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

                #62633
                Member
                Xecure
                  Helpful
                  Up
                  0
                  ::

                  There was a war. That is the truth. There was a genocide. That is the truth. There were concentration camps. That is the truth. The numbers may not be precise or even inflated, but that doesn’t negate that all those horrible things happened. Being too obsessed with the numbers, be it one side or the other, doesn’t change the facts. There were not only Jews in the concentration camps, but saying that there were no Jews, or that they were not an object of hate, is just ignoring the facts.
                  During wars there were always prison camps, where enemies and anyone suspected as an enemy was being held. You can call them prison camps if you don’t like the word “concentration camp”, but they existed and they are there.

                  I think this discussion leads to nowhere. Obsessing on these things will not change the past or what the history books say. Being to obsessed in denying small things only makes those small things more important for both sides. Remembering that hate, greed for power and excessive pride leads people to commit horrible acts is more important that trying to categorize those horrible things, and we must learn to identify them before it is too late, to avoid those atrocities to happen again.

                  antiX Live system enthusiast.
                  General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

                  #62640
                  Member
                  sw-ekb
                    Helpful
                    Up
                    0
                    ::

                    holocaust victims

                    Why do you think the victims of the Holocaust (what is the wrong name! Genocide will be true!) only Jews? Gypsies, Poles, Soviet prisoners of war, disabled, homosexuals, Jehovah’s Witnesses and many others – aren’t they the victims of the third Reich racial policy?
                    What was bad made the Jews that you don’t love them like that? )))

                    Everyone was equal but some were more equal.

                    This is a monument to General Carbishev, he was poured with cold water and turned into ice.

                    Karbyshev

                    This prisoners of war is Yakov Zhugashvili, the senior son of Joseph Stalin, captured in 1941, killed in the concentration camp in 1943

                    Jakov Djugashvili

                    Equal in life, equal to death.

                    “the first Soviet government, whose composition was 80-85 percent Jewish”

                    It’s just a lie

                    First SNK

                    First Soviet Government
                    Chairman of the Council of People’s Commissar – Lenin
                    People’s Commissar for Internal Affairs – Rykov
                    People’s Commissar of Agriculture – Milyutin
                    Narcom of Labor – Shlyapnikov
                    People’s Commissariat of Military and Maritime Affairs – Dybenko
                    People’s Commerce and Industry – Nogin
                    People’s Education People’s Enlightenment – Lunacharsky
                    People’s Commissar – Skvortsov
                    People’s Commissar for Foreign Affairs – Trotsky
                    Narcom of Justice – Oppokov
                    Food People’s Commissar – Teodorovich
                    People’s Commissar Posts and Telegraphs – Avilov
                    Narcom on Affairs of Nationalities – Stalin
                    People’s Commissar Railway – Elizarov

                    Jew on this list is one – Trotsky.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_People%27s_Commissars_of_the_Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic

                    CPU: Single Core AMD Sempron 3000+ speed: 1607 MHz Kernel: 4.9.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64
                    Mem: 940.3/2759.1 MiB Storage: 186.32 GiB Shell: bash 5.0.3

                    #62642
                    Member
                    sw-ekb
                      Helpful
                      Up
                      0
                      ::

                      Isn’t antixforum.com a pro-freedom resource? You claim yourself being anti-fascist but you exert censorship which is a form of suppression. Is it just an inconsistency or an actual hypocrisy?
                      Even if I am wrong, why not leave my post as it is and let people see that I am a scum?
                      I request my post undelete, in its full-text original form.

                      Just do not lie.
                      In this world, there is enough a lie to multiply it and depart by the forums. In the end there are other forums, where you will be happy with your cannibal ideas.

                      CPU: Single Core AMD Sempron 3000+ speed: 1607 MHz Kernel: 4.9.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64
                      Mem: 940.3/2759.1 MiB Storage: 186.32 GiB Shell: bash 5.0.3

                      #62643
                      Forum Admin
                      anticapitalista
                        Helpful
                        Up
                        0
                        ::

                        Whether the majority of the central committee of the Bolshevik party were Jews or not is irrelevant.
                        This ‘theory’ (in reality a lie) originated from the Tsarist police to justify attacks on Bolsheviks as well as pogroms against Jews.
                        The so-called Jewish Conspiracy theory has its roots in Tsarist Russia and then was used by the German Nazis in the 30’s and now by modern day Nazi-wannabees and conspiracy theory nutters.

                        Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                        antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

                        #62659
                        Member
                        sw-ekb
                          Helpful
                          Up
                          0
                          ::

                          Whether the majority of the central committee of the Bolshevik party were Jews or not is irrelevant.

                          Absolutely agree, among the Russians there were enough scum.

                          Vlasov

                          Glasses general Andrey Vlasov, a traitor in 1942, commanded the Russian Liberation Army (over 100 thousand), fought for the Nazis, hanged in 1946.
                          Soviet who fought for the Nazis are called “Vlasovtsy”.

                          CPU: Single Core AMD Sempron 3000+ speed: 1607 MHz Kernel: 4.9.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64
                          Mem: 940.3/2759.1 MiB Storage: 186.32 GiB Shell: bash 5.0.3

                          #62668
                          Member
                          ModdIt
                            Helpful
                            Up
                            1
                            ::

                            Isn’t antixforum.com a pro-freedom resource

                            Freedom from Nazis is one of the reasons I am here and fully support antiX.

                            user uxer posted obnoxious rubbish regarding turning humans into robots with
                            covid vaccine now denying nazi war crimes.

                            Maybe one day he will wake up to the fact he is a perversion.

                            #62671
                            Member
                            sw-ekb
                              Helpful
                              Up
                              0
                              ::

                              Please stop posting offtop.
                              This thread about Great Patriotic War of USSR – 22 June 1941 – 9 May 1945.

                              Begin

                              End

                              Ask your questions.

                              CPU: Single Core AMD Sempron 3000+ speed: 1607 MHz Kernel: 4.9.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64
                              Mem: 940.3/2759.1 MiB Storage: 186.32 GiB Shell: bash 5.0.3

                              #62676
                              Member
                              olsztyn
                                Helpful
                                Up
                                0
                                ::

                                Ok, and what will you say about 6 Mil Poles, 8 Mil Germans, 16 mil Chinese, 30 Mil of Soviet people and among them were Jews (although the USSR did not divide people by nations, everyone was equal in the rights and obligations)?

                                Thank you sw-ekb for these numbers, as people outside of East-Europe region are not typically familiar with these immense numbers of people who lost their lives in the World War II.
                                I was familiar with such numbers, however with some clarifications:
                                – 30 million of people of CCCP who lost their lives includes a very large population of people who lost their lives in result of Stalin’s oppression of his own people. Gulags in Siberia and far North. Have you seen the movie Utomlennye.Solncem-1994?
                                – I had a number of about 15 million Germans who died, although the number you quoted – 8 million – could be closer from between these.

                                Thanks very much for raising this topic…
                                Regards.

                                Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                                https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

                                #62677
                                Member
                                sw-ekb
                                  Helpful
                                  Up
                                  0
                                  ::

                                  in result of Stalin’s oppression

                                  Now in the US are in conclusion over 2 mil man . Every year the cops kill about 1000 people. What do you think about it?
                                  A dead lion can be kicked by any donkey
                                  Is it not strange that many Nazis found refuge in the USA, GB and other countries, and against the USSR immediately after the WW2 was created a military union?

                                  CPU: Single Core AMD Sempron 3000+ speed: 1607 MHz Kernel: 4.9.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64
                                  Mem: 940.3/2759.1 MiB Storage: 186.32 GiB Shell: bash 5.0.3

                                Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 53 total)
                                • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.