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  • #8548
    Anonymous

      …Canada, not Kansas 🙂

      Been using Linux since Kernal 1.5 and been through Redhat(pre-Canonical), Mandrake, Suse,Ubuntu Xbian, Mint and MX (best general-pupose desktop ever)before deciding to try Antix to breathe some life into my old laptop.

      They each had pros and cons and it has been fun watching Linux become a dull-fledged desktop system.

      The target machine is a 10 year old beast with the screen dangling from broken hinges that I still use with a similarly outdated external monitor

      My main machine is an HP Elitebook on which I will continue to.enjoy MX Linux.

      Thanks for se great diatro! I think the Systemd Borging of Linux is sad, and I plan to stay clear of it as long as possible – so thanks for not falling down that well.

      Sadly my efforts to get Antix 17 up on the old beast have not been successful, so far. The bios won’t support USB boot and a burned ISO won’t boot on either of my machines

      I tested both of them with Xubutu live with no issue, but the DVD drive hates Antix.

      Will post diagnostics later.

      It does boot from USB on my contempprary laptop and is brilliant for older hardware – so I am not giving up yet.

      Thanks to the team and community

      Randy

      #8550
      Forum Admin
      Dave

        I have had the worst of luck lately trying to install off of cds / dvds. I think it is because they are so rarely used on the target machines. They seem to work fine on the one computer that the disk drive is used more regularly on. Instead (when I cannot boot usb) I remove the hdd and connect it to another computer via an usb converter. Partition it so there is the main install ext4 partition (majority of the drive) and a small ext4 partition (to be used as swap later). I then copy the iso and extract it to the small partition. After that I install grub to the mbr of the disk and point it to the small partition configured like a “live usb” or “frugal install”. After this and installing the drive back into the old computer I boot the computer and install to the main partition (without swap at the moment). After the reboot finishing the install I run gparted and format the small partition for swap and edit fstab to add the swap partition.

        Hope this helps if you cannot get an install any other way.
        P.S. If you plan to try other iso’s (or upgrade / reinsall) it is nice to leave the small partition for the ISO and make a separate swap partition. That way you can copy the iso to the small partition and modify grub to point to it. Saving you from most of the above procedure with removing the drive and adapting it with another computer, chrooting, and manually having to modify fstab for a swap partition.

        Computers are like air conditioners. They work fine until you start opening Windows. ~Author Unknown

        #8563
        Anonymous

          Have already been working in that direction following:

          Installation Tips (antix.mepis.org)

          gparted from target with 1G iso partition

          I also moved the vmlinux and initrd.gz files to the root of the partition.

          Turning to grub configurations — completely stumped.

          I have many times built dual boot with Grub, but never with the overlay of scripting Antix uses.

          I am not sure where to begin to add the required specification to boot from the partition.

          Any thoughts?

          Randy

          #8564
          Forum Admin
          rokytnji

            screen dangling from broken hinges that I still use

            Howdy and Welcome. Been in your shoes before.

            http://yatsite.blogspot.com/2009/07/fixing-old-gear.html

            More than once even

            Grub editing is done /etc/default/

            harry@biker:~
            $ cd /etc/default
            harry@biker:/etc/default
            $ ls
            acpid         console-setup  grub       irqbalance  nss       rsyslog        tmpfs
            acpi-support  cron           grub.bkup  keyboard    ntpdate   saned          ufw
            avahi-daemon  cryptdisks     halt       locale      numlockx  smartmontools  unclutter
            bluetooth     dbus           hwclock    networking  rcS       ssh            useradd
            bsdmainutils  devpts         ifplugd    nfs-common  rsync     tlp            wicd
            

            Notice my backup < named grub.bkup > ? I backup certain files right after a install. Just habit now. I don’t dual boot anymore either, Though I used to be a grub4dos fanatic years ago.

            Now I just swap out hard drives instead of editing grub. Takes me about 5 minutes. You might want to start a thread in New Users for your grub problem.

            • This reply was modified 6 years, 2 months ago by rokytnji.

            Sometimes I drive a crooked road to get my mind straight.
            I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute off it.
            Motorcycle racing is rocket science.

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            #8566
            Forum Admin
            rokytnji

              Oh yeah. My IBM T23 and Panasonic CF-48 don’t support usb boot in the bios either. But I get usb to boot off of usb 1.1 ports with my PLOP Floppy disk I made for the panasonic. Plus. My PLOP CD I made for my IBM laptop.

              http://www.plop.at/en/bootmanager/download.html

              It is just easier for me than making a grub to boot to usb cd or floppy image. I know D.O. made a frugal install tutorial recently though I have not checked it out yet. Been busy on my motorcycles. \

              Sometimes I drive a crooked road to get my mind straight.
              I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute off it.
              Motorcycle racing is rocket science.

              Linux Registered User # 475019
              How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problems

              #8589
              Anonymous

                will follow this path when I get a few minutes:

                /usr/share/info/grub.info.gz
                File: grub.info, Node: Multi-boot manual config, Next: Embedded configuration, Prev: Shell-like scripting, Up: Configuration

                6.3 Multi-boot manual config
                ============================

                Currently autogenerating config files for multi-boot environments
                depends on os-prober and has several shortcomings. While fixing it is
                scheduled for the next release, meanwhile you can make use of the power
                of GRUB syntax and do it yourself. A possible configuration is detailed
                here, feel free to adjust to your needs.

                First create a separate GRUB partition, big enough to hold GRUB. Some
                of the following entries show how to load OS installer images from this
                same partition, for that you obviously need to make the partition large
                enough to hold those images as well. Mount this partition on/mnt/boot
                and disable GRUB in all OSes and manually install self-compiled latest
                GRUB with:

                ‘grub-install –boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda’

                In all the OSes install GRUB tools but disable installing GRUB in
                bootsector, so you’ll have menu.lst and grub.cfg available for use.
                Also disable os-prober use by setting:

                ‘GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true’

                in /etc/default/grub

                Then write a grub.cfg (/mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg):

                menuentry “OS using grub2” {
                insmod xfs
                search –set=root –label OS1 –hint hd0,msdos8
                configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg
                }

                menuentry “OS using grub2-legacy” {
                insmod ext2
                search –set=root –label OS2 –hint hd0,msdos6
                legacy_configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
                }

                menuentry “Windows XP” {
                insmod ntfs
                search –set=root –label WINDOWS_XP –hint hd0,msdos1
                ntldr /ntldr
                }

                menuentry “Windows 7” {
                insmod ntfs
                search –set=root –label WINDOWS_7 –hint hd0,msdos2
                ntldr /bootmgr
                }

                menuentry “FreeBSD” {
                insmod zfs
                search –set=root –label freepool –hint hd0,msdos7
                kfreebsd /freebsd@/boot/kernel/kernel
                kfreebsd_module_elf /freebsd@/boot/kernel/opensolaris.ko
                kfreebsd_module_elf /freebsd@/boot/kernel/zfs.ko
                kfreebsd_module /freebsd@/boot/zfs/zpool.cache type=/boot/zfs/zpool.cache
                set kFreeBSD.vfs.root.mountfrom=zfs:freepool/freebsd
                set kFreeBSD.hw.psm.synaptics_support=1
                }

                menuentry “experimental GRUB” {
                search –set=root –label GRUB –hint hd0,msdos5
                multiboot /experimental/grub/i386-pc/core.img
                }

                menuentry “Fedora 16 installer” {
                search –set=root –label GRUB –hint hd0,msdos5
                linux /fedora/vmlinuz lang=en_US keymap=sg resolution=1280×800
                initrd /fedora/initrd.img
                }

                menuentry “Fedora rawhide installer” {
                search –set=root –label GRUB –hint hd0,msdos5
                linux /fedora/vmlinuz repo=ftp://mirror.switch.ch/mirror/fedora/linux/development/rawhide/x86_64 lang=en_US keymap=sg resolution=1280×800
                initrd /fedora/initrd.img
                }

                menuentry “Debian sid installer” {
                search –set=root –label GRUB –hint hd0,msdos5
                linux /debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/vmlinuz
                initrd /debian/dists/sid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/initrd.gz
                }

                Notes:
                * Argument to search after -label is FS LABEL. You can also use UUIDs
                with -fs-uuid UUID instead of -label LABEL. You could also use
                direct ‘root=hd0,msdosX’ but this is not recommended due to device
                name instability.

                #8591
                Forum Admin
                Dave

                  Going off of memory (without doing it again, as I never get it first try 😉 ) once you have made the partitions and extracted the iso to the partition you would
                  Mount the partition (typically sdb[0-9]) assuming sdb2 (would need to find out with blkid or fdisk -l
                  mkdir /mnt/sdb2 && mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt/sdb2
                  Then see what directory the grub folder is in (/boot/grub/ I think)
                  find /mnt/sdb2 |grep -i “grub”
                  then install grub to the mbr of sdb
                  grub-install –boot-directory=/boot/grub /dev/sdb (it might be /mnt/sdb2/boot/grub)
                  then edit /mnt/sdb2/boot/grub/grub.cfg and add an entry to it like (please note sdb changes to sda as it will be the primary drive when you move it to the other computer)
                  `menuentry “Live For Install” {
                  set root='(hd0,msdos2)’
                  linux /antiX/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 bdev=/dev/sda2 quiet
                  initrd /antiX/initrd.gz
                  }

                  Edit: just noticed d.o. Has a video on frugal installs which should help

                  • This reply was modified 6 years, 2 months ago by Dave.
                  • This reply was modified 6 years, 2 months ago by anticapitalista. Reason: shrunk video

                  Computers are like air conditioners. They work fine until you start opening Windows. ~Author Unknown

                  #8593
                  Anonymous

                    TX a lot of this is a refresher for
                    E. Been a while since I didn’t just use installer.

                    #8928
                    Anonymous

                      I tried: USB boot / DVD boot / Boot from partition / boot from USB external HD / Core / Full – no joy.

                      Prepared to say that this is an issue with Antix, since Xubutu and MX-linux live discs boot.

                      MX-17-1 installed and runs very well. Stripped out xfce and going with LXDE.

                      Would like to see the Antix cli tools ported to MX.

                      Will check in from time to time to see if a working live DVD image becomes available.

                      #9167
                      Member
                      seaken64

                        Hi RJLegault. Welcome to antiX.

                        I am also new to antiX and I also found some anomolies with booting antiX-17. I don’t understand it all myself. FWIW I did finally get it installed by using my DVD drive with the Live USB key inserted into the USB port. This happened by accident. I had tried to use Plop from the DVD drive to boot the USB but it wouldn’t work. I decided to burn a DVD and I booted from that. I got into the menu and launched the live session. The installer started from the DVD but then switched in mid-stream to the USB and finished the install from that USB drive. I got the live session up and then chose to install from the icon on the desktop.

                        Maybe you can get your USB to boot with Plop? Or maybe a function key to choose the boot device? I had to use F12 on this old P-III.

                        Sean

                        #9168
                        Moderator
                        caprea

                          Yeah, I also had this happening the first time by accident.
                          But you can choose this option, if you have a DVD and a usb-stick with the same antix-system.
                          Choose under the F4 options the from=usb and even a PC which won’t support USB boot, will boot from the usb-stick.
                          Very nice feature !

                          #9179
                          Anonymous

                            Hmm. Will have to give that a try.

                            The target machine is generally left on and I noticed that over the course of a few days running MX-17 LXDE, conky hogged 75% of the available memory (as reported by conky and htop).

                            Will check back when I try the double media trick. I can see how it might work.

                            R

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