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Budgie
I am returning to my 32bit laptop after a period away in order to set up site WiFi APs and am having real difficulty with wifi.
I tried using Ceni and this is OK but slow and cumbersome and I cannot reliably solve the problem of working with hidden SSIDs.
I tried to install Network Manager and some errors flashed past and after installing I cannot find Network Manager and the installation box is not greyed out so perhaps it is not installed.
Has anybody time to help please.
rokytnji
Well. Need some answers 1st.
Post the readout of
inxi -Fxz -rand how did you install network manager. I hope you realize you are running a systemd free distro.
App installs are effected by that fact.Howdy and Welcome.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsseaken64
You don’t tell us what distro you are using. We can assume it’s antiX 32-bit since this is an antiX forum. But please tell us more about what you are running and what you did.
Seaken64
BobC
I am wondering if he doesn’t know that Connman (not Network Manager) is antiX’s normal X-Windows capable communication manager program, and generally speaking, that was what he should have tried first.
caprea
If you used ceni before you have to clean up your /etc/network/interfaces file before you can use network-manager,
because every connection listed there will be ignored by the network-manager.
So the file should only contain the following#------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # /etc/network/interfaces # # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) # Used by ceni but not by connman #------------------------------------------------------------------------------ auto lo iface lo inet loopbackAfterwards reboot , open a terminal and type
nm-applet
A network-manager icon should appear in your taskbarI think the network-manager is well and correctly installed. You can also try nm-applet before you make any changes and see if the icon appears, it will appear but it will not work before the interfaces-file is changed.
If this works for you, you can write
nm-applet &
to your desktop-session-startup-file, so you don’t always have to write it in terminal after starting the system.OK and many thanks for the several replies. For unknown reason I didn’t get an email telling me I had replies, although this used to happen. I must have messed up by not ticking the reply box and I only visited my post to check today. (Can this option be changed on my profile defaults?)
I am using 32bit Antix and looking at my system I find:-
Desktop: IceWM 1.6.6 wm: JWM 2.3.7 dm: SLiM 1.3.6 Distro: antiX-17_386-base Heather Heyer 24 October 2017 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)Strange as I though I had upgraded to antix-19 so looks like I have work to do.
I have no particular wish for Network Manager and would prefer Connman if I could get it to work. I installed it using Control Centre installer bu could’t find it to run. Had to stop so perhaps not concentrating.
Ceni has been driving me mad as I am trying to work with several wifi APs with multiple SSIDs but what I need to connect to is an hidden SSIDs which makes life quite hard.
Grateful if somebody can put me straight here.
You’re getting closer!
From rokytnji above:
Well. Need some answers 1st.
Post the readout of inxi -Fxz -rand how did you install network manager. I hope you realize you are running a systemd free distro.
App installs are effected by that fact.It seems you started with an installed version of antiX-17-base and did the updates to 19? Maybe you need to backup your data and try a full install of antiX-19 32-bit.
But please follow up and post your inxi output as requested.
Seaken64
- This reply was modified 2 years, 9 months ago by seaken64.
Xecure
base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
You have already updated to antiX 19 (you can see you are using debian buster), but it will never reflect in inxi, by design.
I installed it using Control Centre installer bu could’t find it to run. Had to stop so perhaps not concentrating.
The antiX package installer installs connman with no gui (only the cli version). If you want connman gui, the best one that I know of is cmst
sudo apt install cmst
then add this command to startup
cmst -m &
Once you reboot, an icon will appear in the systemtray (that is connman). you will click it, slide wifi on, and connect to your wifi in the corresponding tab.
Make sure that
a) you have removed all wifi entries from /etc/network/interfaces
b) if you can connect to your Access Point but not to the internet, replace the /etc/resolv.conf symlinkMore info: search forums (I have answered this so many times I have even created a script to guide people with antiX connections).
antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.Hi and very many thanks for the replies. First, here is the result of your first command:-
alastair@IBMT42:~ $ inxi -Fxz -r System: Host: IBMT42 Kernel: 4.10.5-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: antiX-17_386-base Heather Heyer 24 October 2017 base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) Machine: Type: Laptop System: IBM product: 2373Q91 v: ThinkPad T42 serial: <filter> Mobo: IBM model: 2373Q91 serial: <filter> BIOS: IBM v: 1RETDRWW (3.23 ) date: 06/18/2007 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 47.1 Wh condition: 48.6/47.5 Wh (102%) model: SANYO IBM-92P1137 status: Unknown CPU: Topology: Single Core model: Intel Pentium M bits: 32 type: MCP arch: M Dothan rev: 6 L2 cache: 2048 KiB flags: sse sse2 bogomips: 2797 Speed: 1400 MHz min/max: 600/1800 MHz Core speed (MHz): 1: 1400 Graphics: Device-1: AMD RV200/M7 [Mobility Radeon 7500] vendor: IBM ThinkPad T4x Series driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1024x768~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI R100 (RV200 4C57) x86/MMX/SSE2 DRI2 v: 1.3 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC97 Audio vendor: IBM ThinkPad T4x Series driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.5 Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.10.5-antix.1-486-smp Network: Device-1: Intel 82540EP Gigabit Ethernet vendor: IBM Thinkpad driver: e1000 v: 7.3.21-k8-NAPI port: 8000 bus ID: 02:01.0 IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR5212 802.11abg NIC vendor: Phillips driver: ath5k v: kernel port: 8000 bus ID: 02:02.0 IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> IF-ID-1: irda0 state: down mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 149.05 GiB used: 9.92 GiB (6.7%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD1600BEVE-00A0HT0 size: 149.05 GiB Partition: ID-1: / size: 19.58 GiB used: 4.80 GiB (24.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 ID-2: /home size: 57.42 GiB used: 5.12 GiB (8.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 ID-3: swap-1 size: 1.95 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda3 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0 C mobo: 37.0 C Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2889 Repos: Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/buster buster main nonfree nosystemd Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/buster-backports.list 1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main contrib non-free Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 1: deb http://ftp.gr.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 1: deb http://ftp.gr.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free 2: deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onion.list No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list Info: Processes: 137 Uptime: 4m Memory: 1.97 GiB used: 289.6 MiB (14.4%) Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 inxi: 3.0.36 alastair@IBMT42:~ $ ^C alastair@IBMT42:~- This reply was modified 2 years, 9 months ago by rokytnji.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 9 months ago by rokytnji.
rokytnji
Well, My experience with ath5k driver has been bullet proof as far as usage, OOTB connect for me.
Xsecure post above pretty much covers what I would suggest.
Posting right now on shop MX box. So that is all I got to say on this presently.
Kudos for a successful dist-upgrade. I like to give credit to where credit is due.
Sometimes I drive a crooked road to get my mind straight.
Not all who Wander are Lost.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsNetwork Manager was not installed. I have cleaned up my /etc/network/interfaces file as above and installed Connman. Will need to do some more work to be able to sort out which hidden SSID I am seeing by sorting through 18 or so mac addresses but no success to date. Will post again when needed. Also still only at bottom of learning curve.
(Found the script after brief search and will try soon.)
Thanks for all the help.
BudgeI regret I am not having any success either with Ceni or Connman. My problem is how to log on to a hidden wifi access point but even those visible and with correct password do not work for me now. I had no problem with Ceni before but now whole wifi environment has changed.
An interesting finding has been that Ceni shows several more BSSIDs (9 in present location and 16 or 17 nearby) than when I scan using Connman now in same location when I only get 3.
When plugged into lan as I am now to continue this thread with this laptop, Connman shows the presence of WiFi but I cannot persuade the app to scan or do anything with the wifi while lan is connected.
I tried searching here but today am not getting lucky. I know you are busy on work but when you have a moment a couple of helpful links would be much appreciated please.
I have now been able to log into a visible SSID using Ceni and this worked fine as always. Trouble is this SSID is for guests and has L2 restrictions so only gets me to the web. Also it is on different vlan subnet which cannot access my AP devices management vlan subnet. It is not supposed to anyhow!
Still no luck with the hidden SSIDs and I also have difficulty in sorting out the MAC addresses because each SSID has a different MAC address related to the device 2.4 or 5.0 MHz hardware MAC address. Trouble is most of devices are same make and age and sorting out which MAC address goes with which SSID has been a problem. I shall persist but are there any gotchas when working with hidden SSID. Should I enter the SSID even though hidden or just work with MAC address BSSID?
olsztyn
I regret I am not having any success either with Ceni or Connman. My problem is how to log on to a hidden wifi access point
It seems I missed to notice before that Connman does not have the capability of connecting to a hidden SSID, particularly not having such need recently. Is this an oversight in Connman design or limitation of cmst?
If this is indeed the case, would this not be a good reason to replace Connman with Network Manager in antiX instances? I have played a bit with Network Manager in one of my Frugal instances and seemed to work just fine, using just about 20M more. This my Frugal test instance is not however clean antiX as it was flipped back to IceWM after installation of Budgie desktop. Having installed Network Manager in other (clean) instances of antiX seems exhibit some strange problems so far – perhaps I am still missing some components, even after reading Xecure’s posts, which I thought I followed… I think it requires some dependencies, such as network-manager-gnome, which is resulting in nm-applet…
Would someone point me to some complete Xecure’s instructions how to replace Connman with Network Manager in reliable way, please?
Will be greatly appreciated…Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_ParametersI have it now more by luck than judgement as I have three hidden SSIDs on both frequencies for each device but fortunately where I am only three APs have larger signal hence the 9 scan findings. Obvious with hindsight but entering the Hidden ESSID which is know but not visible and ticking the hidden box works. No idea how I shall get on with roaming now as this is not a mobile phone but an ancient T42 laptop.
I shall remove Connman as I couldn’t get more than three scan hits and none worked.
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