Herbstluftwm: Reactivate Conky, Rox Menu and panel?

[Member robert-m64]

Hi, I just tested the herbstluftwm tiling window manager. For mouse haters a great option (on other systems, I use Pop OS and spectrwm).
The defaults are fine and similar to other tiling WMs (although I personally prefer e.g. Mod+t for opening a Terminal).
Big advantage of herbstluftwm over spectrwm: the use of the Panel (e.g. for running applets such as Nextcloud.).
For testing, I deactivated the Standard-WM functions.
Now: how can I re-activate them? I cannot identify a (commented) entry in the .config/herbstluftwm/autostart file.
Best regards, Robert

[Member Xecure]

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Conky and the startup script are provided by desktop-session. You said:

robert-m64 wrote:

For testing, I deactivated the Standard-WM functions.

How did you do the previous? Are you starting herbstluftwm from tty, from a different login-manager or indirectly? Starting it from slimski or from the other-desktops menu/window should start
/usr/local/bin/desktop-session herbstluftwm

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I changed the Desktop from the Mouse-Menu; After starting herbstluftwm, a dialog appears in a split window, asking if the Rox panel and menu should be kept. After disabling them, the herbstluftwm session is ‘clean’.

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I changed the Desktop from the Mouse-Menu; After starting herbstluftwm, a dialog appears in a split window, asking if the Rox panel and menu should be kept. After disabling them, the herbstluftwm session is ‘clean’.

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robert-m64 wrote:

I changed the Desktop from the Mouse-Menu; After starting herbstluftwm, a dialog appears in a split window, asking if the Rox panel and menu should be kept. After disabling them, the herbstluftwm session is ‘clean’.

As far as I know, the window pop-up is for you to switch back to a different desktop-session. Do you mean this? To return to a rox-icewm or zzz-fluxbox desktop session?

You can enable the warning pop-up in ~/.desktop-session/desktop-session.conf
#Session other desktops window
#This is to set the other desktops window to pop up or not.
#true = pop up
#false = no pop up
OTHER_DESKTOPS_WINDOW="true"

If this isn’t what you are talking about, then I am missing the message here. Could you elaborate a bit more?

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If you are asking how to get back to the antiX default desktop, just logout (Ctl+Mod+q). Then once at login manager, press F1 till you get to the Rox-Icewm option, then log back in.

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[Moderator christophe]

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If you are asking how to start conky In herbstluftwm – add “conky &” (no quotes) to the autostart file.

There’s a recommended area called “daemons ‘n’ stuff” near the top of the file. Add it near that.
If you want other things like rox panel, you can add those things too.

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[Moderator christophe]

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“asking if the Rox panel and menu should be kept.”

No menu is available for herbstluftwm, like icewm has. I think that popup message is as much of a warning as a choice…

(Warning you to turn back now, if you will be lost without those helpful items.)

You could find & add (install) other programs to facilitate a menu. But antiX does not provide one in the initial setup, except dmenu (Mod+d). Of course, App-Select (app-select) is also installed, and you could assign it a key-combination…

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[Member robert-m64]

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Thanks for all your answers!

I misunderstood the desktop question window. This is in reality a window manager switcher!
Toggled in the ~/.desktop-session/desktop-session.conf (thanks to @Xecure!):
~~~
#Session other desktops window
#This is to set the other desktops window to pop up or not.
#true = pop up
#false = no pop up
OTHER_DESKTOPS_WINDOW=”true”
~~~

Also thanks to @christophe about his comments on starting programs in herbstluftwm!

At the end, herbstluftwm works very similar to spectrwm <https://github.com/conformal/spectrwm#readme&gt;. For now, I stay with spectrwm, because I’m used to it and find it basic, but fast and straight-forward.

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spectrwm is an excellent tiling windows manager.
I used it for a while before discovering herbstluftwm.
I actually thought of including it on antiX in the past as it uses sane defaults.

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anticapitalista wrote:

spectrwm is an excellent tiling windows manager.
I used it for a while before discovering herbstluftwm.

I am curious what was the difference that made you choose herbstluftwm over spectrwm for inclusion in antiX…
To me both are relying on dynamically reading in their config files during startup. From the standpoint of WM being an interface (to the system user) of the system, this is a convenience but also a weakness. IMHO from this tiling group of WMs only DWM is rock solid interface as config file is pre-compiled into one monolithic object.
This mu conjecture was recently confirmed by testing impact of Badwolf browser, which under certain circumstances was able to crash both IceWM and sometimes Herbsluftwm, but not able to crash DWM in my testing.
As a tiling WM, DWM may seem less convenient for casual configuration than Herbstluftwm since it requires re-compilation, but on the other hand the way it is configured by default it already has all the effective and practical features built in, in excess of the default features in Herbstluftwm. Additional re-configuration is an easy re-compilation of DWM C code, including a modified config file.
Regardless of my argumentation in favor of DWM, these tiling WMs are not commonly popular among typical users accustomed to a more Windows-like environment. However from my experience most all our WMs proved to be fragile, caused to crash by Badwolf test, except DWM, which stood up straight, alive and responsive every time.
Just my two cents…

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I tried a Reactivate Conky was just to painful then I found py3status https://github.com/ultrabug/py3status.
This works great with my i3 and sway with conky commands. And conky is non sway compatible. I will also be setting it up with dk WM too.

i3-G
status_command py3status -c ~/.config/py3status/config
Part of the code

conky mpd {
     format = ' \?color=#00bfff ﱘ '
     format += '[ \?color=#999999 ({mpd_status}) {mpd_smart 50} {mpd_elapsed} / {mpd_length} ]'
 }

conky cpu {
    format = ' \?color=#00bfff  '
    format += '[ \?color=#999999 {cpu cpu0} % {hwmon 1 temp 1}° ]'
    format += '[\?color=#999999 {cpu cpu1} % {hwmon 1 temp 2}° ]'
    format += '[\?color=#999999 {cpu cpu2} % {hwmon 1 temp 3}° ]'
    format += '[\?color=#999999 {cpu cpu3} % {hwmon 1 temp 4}° ]'
    format += '[\?color=#999999 ({freq_g})Hz ]'

https://scrot.cloud/image/py3bar-scrot.BFCtU

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By the way this runs great with pure wayland. Where conky itself is completely non-compatible with wayland..

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