How do I boot to my desktop “normally”?

[Anonymous]

I do not know how to write topics, but I need help, all these Linuxes are so complicated, it is very difficult for them to compare with the experience of a window, or Mac OS – there is real, everything is simple, right there, this situation (a lot of text):

I completely configured the system, installed everything I wanted.
Further, through the built-in utility in the distribution itself, I created a complete snapshot of the system without leaving the system.
Then, I booted into windows, and wrote this snapshot of the system to the flash card!
Booted successfully, followed the on-screen instructions during recovery
– chose section 3, chose, install the bootloader on the root
– snapshot restored successfully

And now to the heart of the problem, and my suffering:
1) Here I am at the boot selection stage
– window
– restored Linux (full snapshot by built-in tool)
I choose – Linux, the download shows that everything is going well, except that the driver writes something about an error to the Nvidia card (but there was such a problem even before the recovery, I don’t think that’s the case)
2) Front-end “console-terminal” with fields: login and pass
I enter my username, pass
– everything went well
3) ALL PROBLEM – where is my GUI ??????
why did he open up ????
Before I took a snapshot, everything was loading fine (((
what should I do next? why did the program not warn me that after the “recovery”, you need to write the command – “SUCH” to start the system not from the terminal + _ +

I have been using Linux for a very long time.
How do I know what is needed from me now?

During this week I realized that this system has 2 graphical interfaces
1) slim
2) Slimski – on beta
tried to enter commands that he guessed to enter
sudo service start slim – it helped, but nothing changed, although it wrote that it was successfully launched
– what should I do to make the system work normally, as before?

Addition, if you select the field during recovery – “this is NOT a snapshot”
– it is proposed to create new accounts, the old one will remain
and then, the CAM graphical interface turns on
– but for some reason the programs do not work (or badly)
– the password has become LONG to check

And yet, for some reason I cannot mount your utility’s built-in disks, which are in the NTFS system! (at least for reading mode)
BUT, I found a command on the Internet that mounts disks
Why can’t the OS itself mount the disk, like the Linux mint does?
In general, help solve the problem “what to do next after the snapshot has been restored? HOW TO EXIT THE CONSOLE AND USE THE SYSTEM NORMALLY?”

I created this account using “temporary mail” services, because I don’t need an account for anything “More than creating such a topic”
and maybe this is my first and last topic.
I’m not really a fan of forums.

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Hi temp, first use system utilitys rather than windoze to create bootable media such as flash card or USB Stick.
Windoze utilitys are unlikely to provide reliable media.

Before a long answer I would suggest you use a USB Live system until you are either comfortable with antiX
or decide you want to try MX or go back to Mint.

Regarding slim slimski, slimski is introduced since slim has no maintenance, it works fine in my experience.

NTFS support is now in Linux Kernel, as I will not run windoze can not help with whthat.

the experience of a window, or Mac OS – there is real, everything is simple, right there,

which is why I get donated computers, printers Scanners. Many good computers simply are too slow for windoze ,
supposedly too outdated for windoze 11. No drivers available if the system will run and Microsoft has Forced an
update from win 7 Pro.
On mac the introduction of simple driverless printing makes using older devices a no Go for many. They need a PPD or
microcode loading driver.

I can install and setup antiX in a very short time, less than an hour for a fully updated highly customized system.

I recently was forced to install windoze 10, getting to a point where it was fully updated took me in to the next day.
AND a perfectly good laser printer with less than 1000 pages printed and a Brand new! old stock Mustek scanner have no driver support…

Be fair antiX is very different to linux mint, I came from Mint Manjaro, update fails, Arch, great but at times painful, Suse,
fedora, monsters with gloom, er gnome.

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I understand your frustration, but I can tell you this isn’t a common case, so we at least need system info. When possible, share with us the terminal output of
inxi -Fxz

If I understand correctly:
A. you installed antiX and customized it to your heart’s content.
B. You have an nVidia graphics card, and installed the nVidia proprietary drivers.
C. You decided to backup your system and created a Snapshot using the provided iso-snapshot tool.
D. (We assume) you created a Personal snapshot (with home files and configuration).
E. You decided (or needed) to restore your system and decided to use the Personal snapshot created previously.
F. You made a live-USB with the Personal-Snapshot and successfully booted live with it.
G. The live snapshot experience was exactly the same as the installed system (graphical interface and all), and everything worked properly (we don’t know if nvidia drivers were loaded at this point, but graphics were OK-ish?).
H. You proceeded to install your personal snapshot and replace the installed system. All seemed to be OK, so you rebooted.
I. When you rebooted after installing from your snapshot, you found that the system didn’t boot to a graphical interface.
J. You login in the terminal but the system still doesn’t start graphically.

The rest is you trying to get the graphics working, but at this point we don’t know if nvidia drivers are loaded or if nouveau drivers are loaded instead.

Anonymous wrote:

Addition, if you select the field during recovery – “this is NOT a snapshot”
– it is proposed to create new accounts, the old one will remain
and then, the CAM graphical interface turns on
– but for some reason the programs do not work (or badly)
– the password has become LONG to check

This part I didn’t understand properly. Is this the cli-installer? What program are we talking about? Is this from the booted snapshot or from the booted installed system?

If you don’t mind, boot the snapshot again and explain if you get a graphical interface on live-USB (normal boot, not failsafe or safe video mode). If not, see what driver is loaded (if it is nvidia or not)
inxi -Gx
If nvidia isn’t loaded, then you may need to use a boot parameter
xorg=nvidia

antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

[Member PPC]

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Anonymous wrote:

I’m not really a fan of forums.

Well, that’s up to you- forums are, specially the open source world, one of the best ways to get help or learn hot to do something- antiX forum respects your privacy- as far as I know, there’s no problem in using temporary emails to setup an account here

Now, more to your situation:

Anonymous wrote:

all these Linuxes are so complicated, it is very difficult for them to compare with the experience of a window, or Mac OS – there is real, everything is simple

Hum… it all depends; what do you want to do? If you want to run software that is not available under Linux, like some games or adobe photoshop- yes, it is not simple to do in linux. Do you want to use hardware (printers, scanners…) that have only windows drivers? Yes, it’s not simple to do in Linux, and may be impossible…
If you want a system for ordinary users, that has a browser (Chrome, Chromium, Firefox, Edge, etc) to access the internet, and an office suite to do some work (you can use LibreOffice, or any array of free office suits in Linux or even use MS Office on-line- either in free or paid versions, etc). If you are a gamer, and your computer is powerful enough to handle modern games- Steam can actually play many thousands of games in Linux…
If you want to use hardware (once again, mainly printers and scanners) that is not so new and has no driver support in Windows 10/11- hum… in most cases, just plug and play- and it works, out of the box in any linux distro (at most you have to install cups or sane)
If you have an old laptop that is so out of date that you use it as a door stop- because it can run Windows 10… Well slap a very light linux distro on it- like antiX- and it works almost as well as a new computer!

Like I said, it all depends in what you want to do…

True that there is no conformity in Linux- in windows you have Windows 7, 10, 11 (in home, pro, enterprise, whatever versions) and the interface, settings manager, etc is about the same since the dawn of time- in Linux you have diversity- literally hundreds of actively developed distros, with dozens of different interfaces- everything from their own thing to MacOS to Windows 10 clones, and everything in the middle.
antiX does not have the “shiniest” look, but that’s because it’s devs prefer “functionality” over “looks”- have you ever used Window 98, or even 7? When you can get the basics of using antiX- there’s a menu icon on the lower left, file manager and web browser icons on the toolbar to get you going…
If you like Window 11 look and feel- use something like Zorin (or search here in the forum about how to make antiX look and fell more like Windows 11- I dabbled on that)

antiX has come a long way – users do not need to use the terminal, unless they want to, to perform 99% of all tasks, there’s GUI’s for almost every single need…

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And yet, for some reason I cannot mount your utility’s built-in disks, which are in the NTFS system!

Yes- that is a security feature- so you don’t end up messing your window’s system- but you can read and write ntfs partitions- please search the forum on how to do that…

Anonymous wrote:

through the built-in utility in the distribution itself, I created a complete snapshot of the system without leaving the system.

Please provide more detail about how you did this, so folks here can try to help you out…

Anonymous wrote:

I booted into windows, and wrote this snapshot of the system to the flash card!

Why did you do that? Using antiX to “write the snapshot the the flash card” should be safer…

Anonymous wrote:

driver writes something about an error to the Nvidia card (but there was such a problem even before the recovery, I don’t think that’s the case)

Take it from me- I’ve been in similar situations- something that, to us seems like a trivial, unrelated problem, can be the true cause of your inability to boot to a GUI interface…
Can you please provide the output of that “error”?

Anonymous wrote:

I realized that this system has 2 graphical interfaces
1) slim
2) Slimski – on beta

Since you are in jam, I don’t want to nickpick, but sim and slimski are not graphical interfaces- they are log in managers- gui’s to enter your username, password and select which “graphicla interface” you want antiX to use… antiX full version comes, out of the box with several interfaces- Icewm, fluxbox, jwm (these 4 have several “modes”- that use roxfiler to manager desktop icons, spacedfm/zzzfm to manage desktop icons, no desktop icons, or run in minimal mode, without desktop icons, wallpapers or any apps launched at system startup) and herbs… a tiling window manager.
Is you are used to Windows, probably space-icewm desktop is better for you (it uses a file manager that resembles the one in Windows more).

Please try to provide more information about your situation and wait for someone with more expertise to try to help you…

P.

Edit: Xecure was faster than me… Please read carefully everything that’s in the previous post…

• This reply was modified 1 year, 7 months ago by PPC.

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People, will you be satisfied with my video recording?
I recorded two scenarios, total duration 5 minutes
Video on YouTube, link here – https://youtu.be/4HnM4OEFBuc

It’s just that it was easier for me to record a video (I don’t know how to show you all the logs in the form of text, so I thought it would arrange a video series?)

In this video, I show you quickly how I restore the system, and what eventually happened.
It’s enough? Or do you need something else?
Once again, the essence of the problem:
I created a copy of a snapshot of my entire system, then, wrote this copy to a USB flash drive, restored it, and then, just a “terminal-console” with a request to enter an account
Running applications through this console works, but they are not displayed, since this is “Console?”

All I wanted to do was create a complete copy of the working system, keeping all the settings – and so on! (like on windows10 – using programs)

p.s. i have discord, if need: DillerXLove#5883

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Explore and use antiX and Linux tools. There are plenty which work reliably, i can not say that for
those provided by or for windoze which I have a lot of negative experience with. Win 7 was fine, 10 a
barrel of flashy spyware. It fits the definition of a trojan perfectly.

antiX has all the tools included to Write a bootable media from an ISO, a remaster toool to,
Make an ISO which you can install to a a live USB Stick from an installed customized system.

A remastering tool for Live USB Stick. Meaning you can have your system with you anywhere, and restore
by reinstalling a tested known working copy that inckudes all customization within a few minutes.

My personal preference and reccomendation is to create a customized USB Live System, from which you can
restore at any time. I have also used Time Shift on numerous systems. It works fine.

I no longer ever have Windoze and Linux on same drive with any system I support, I never write to a
windows system directly from Linux, I use a partition with ExFat for transfer so there will be no issues
with windoze.

Better than all those solutions is to boot from a live USB or Flash card (Better Life from Flash Card).

My users were frustrated due to the fact that Windoze kept messing up the
Linux system AND transferring data to NTFS Filesystem caused a lot of issues.
Since we changed our method I have had no complaints for months.

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Anonymous wrote:

Video on YouTube, link here – https://youtu.be/4HnM4OEFBuc

Thanks for the video.
I am just at the beginning of the video and see this:

It is trying to load the vesa driver but later fails, so no graphical interface.

You are certain that you installed the nvidia (please confirm), so you can try to add boot-codes to the boot options bar here:

You just need to write the boot code (if there is a problem with the keyboard layout, first select your language in the F2 boot menus).
load=nvidia xorg=nvidia
and see if it boots to a graphical interface.

If possible, after testing the bootcode (you just need to write the bootcode and hit the Enter key), if it doesn’t directly boot to a graphical environment, run in the console
inxi -Gx
after login in and take a picture with your camera and upload it here so we can see what graphic devices are detected and what video drivers are disabled.

With the video now things are a bit clearer. You installed in terminal (cli-installer) because you couldn’t get to the desktop in the live environment. Hopefully this we can help fix.

antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

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I’m sure the driver is installed!
I remember that I put it through the anti panel, and I have a nvidia settings application

It seems to work out to solve my problem!
Did as you said
booted to the USB stick, then I registered two commands, and my snapshot was LOADED into live mode!
Before and already from it, through antix-control, I installed the system, and it works!
The only thing that is strange is that in the obs program, the encoder has disappeared – NVENC (gtx650)

The problem seems to be a solution!
Thanks for the two commands you gave!
How did I know to register them? -_-
By the way, I noticed a problem, changing applications by default does not work (
for example, you change the view of the photo to deepin photo view
and photos open in standard = – =
even after reboot! (
This works with video players too
– but this is not critical
So, can you recommend backup tools?
Anything simple to just take 1 full snapshot set up and with all the logins and apps?
And so that it would all work right away, after rebooting into the restored snapshot?
Do you have such funds?
Or, the standard “enough”, which is “out of the box” in the control center anti?
On the occasion of the drivers, and the error that is during loading, I do not know what it means, and why it occurred
I installed the driver again, through the system control center, there is an item – drivers, install, chose to install nvidia, followed the instructions …
Maybe you had to install the drivers in the console after exiting the graphics? – but it seems that everything works, only this error is always there, modprob nvidia error (it is on the video)

I like Linux, and I even like that it is less visually similar to windows – Mac
But, it is so “painful” in the sense that you have to “guess” how to install the drivers, etc.
Why is there a tearing in the system, although the graphics are proprietary! – I’m talking about tearing the image, when dragging, windows, or watching a video of a series, and so on!
Linux may have become better, friendlier
but, it seems to me, it only seems that windows 10 will be easier to learn!
Or, just a habit …

Thanks everyone for the help!

I was not sure that anyone would help me
Since I once again wrote to the forums of mints-linux, they refused me there, due to the fact that I gave them screenshots, on google disk -_-
And they wanted the text, it turns out? (

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Linux still has some driver problems (

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load=nvidia xorg=nvidia

its really help.
To boot on snapshot with graphics !

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