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July 14, 2020 at 12:23 pm #38854
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Does Slitaz have inxi? In a terminal you could run inxi -Fxz and post the output here. We could look at it to see what version of kernel, xorg, and video driver it is using. You might have success running an antiX release that uses similar kernel and xorg versions.

I don’t think I can run Slitaz on my Pentium III because it doesn’t support the disk drives.
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Hi BobC, how are you?

SliTaz is installed on the HD, I tried to apply the command you suggested:

tux @ slitaz: ~ $ inxi -Fxz
Command ‘inxi’ not found, but can be installed as root with:

tazpkg -gi inxi

tux @ slitaz: ~ $ sudo tazpkg -gi inxi
Password:

Checksum error for “inxi-3.0.37.tazpkg” ***************** | 167k 0:00:00 ETA

Checking “Main” repository
================================================== ==============================
Checking … Backing up the most recent package list … Getting “bundle.tar.lzma” … Getting “files-list.lzma” … duperemove-0.11.1
exiv2-dev-0.27.3
libraryopt-1.0.1
utftpd-0.2
yaze-ag-2.40.5
inxi-3.0.37.tazpkg 100% | ******************************** | 167k 0:00:00 ETA
Checking dependencies for: inxi
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Missing “bash” package
Missing package “coreutils-disk”
Missing package “gawk”
Missing package “pciutils”
Missing package “procps”
Missing package “sed”
================================================== ==============================
6 missing to install.

bash-5.0.11.tazpkg 100% | ******************************** | 350k 0:00:00 ETA
Installing the “bash” package
================================================== ==============================
The GNU bourne SHell.
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Copying package … Extracting package … Remember modified packages … Installing package … Removing all temporary files … Run post-installation commands …
Do you want to set Bash to default (y / N)? : coreutils-disk-8.31. 100% | ******************************** | 115k 0:00:00 ETA
Installing the “coreutils-disk” package
================================================== ==============================
GNU utilities that work with disks.
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Copying package … Extracting package … Remember modified packages … Installing package … Removing all temporary files … Run post-installation commands … gawk-5.0.1.tazpkg 18% | ****** | gawk-5.0.1.tazpkg 100% | ******************************** | 371k 0:00:00 ETA
Installing the “gawk” package
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GNU awk to handle simple data-reformatting.
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Copying package … Extracting package … Remember modified packages … Run pre-installation commands … Installing package … Removing all temporary files … pciutils-3.6.4.tazpk 56% | ***************** | pciutils-3.6.4.tazpk 100% | ********************* *********** | 53340 0:00:00 ETA
Installing the “pciutils” package
================================================== ==============================
Linux PCI Utilities.
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Copying package … Extracting package … Remember modified packages … Run pre-installation commands … Installing package … Removing all temporary files … procps-3.2.8.tazpkg 33% | ********** | procps-3.2.8.tazpkg 100% | **************************** **** | 101k 0:00:00 ETA
Installing the “procps” package
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The proc filesystem utilities.
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Copying package … Extracting package … Remember modified packages … Run pre-installation commands … Installing package … Removing all temporary files … sed-4.8.tazpkg 100% | * ******************************* | 70528 0:00:00 ETA
Installing the “sed” package
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GNU stream editor.
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Copying package … Extracting package … Remember modified packages … Installing package … Removing all temporary files … Run post-installation commands …
Installation of the “inxi” package
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Full featured CLI system information tool.
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Copying package … Extracting package … Remember modified packages … Installing package … Removing all temporary files.tux@slitaz: ~ $ tazpkg -gi inxi
You must be root to run tazpkg -gi
tux @ slitaz: ~ $ sudo tazpkg -gi inxi
Password:

The “inxi” package is already installed.
You can use the –forced option to force the installation.

tux @ slitaz: ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System:
Host: slitaz Kernel: 3.16.55-slitaz64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 4.2.1) Desktop: LXDE 0.10.0 Distro: 5.0
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: Semp Toshiba Informatica Ltda product: STI
v: Rev. 10/00 serial: <filter>
Mobo: Semp Toshiba model: STI 910090 v: 4.1 serial: <filter> BIOS: Phoenix
v: 6.00 PG date: 03/25/2007
CPU:
Topology: Single Core model: Intel Celeron bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Netburst Smithfield rev: 9 L2 cache: 256 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 bogomips: 5056
Speed: 2528 MHz min / max: N / A Core speed (MHz): 1: 2528
Graphics:
Device-1: VIA CN700 / P4M800 Pro / P4M800 CE / VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro]
vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: N / A bus ID: 01: 00.0
Display: server: X.org 1.12.4 driver: vesa unloaded: fbdev
resolution: <xdpyinfo missing>
Message: Unable to show advanced data. Required tool glxinfo missing.
Audio:
Device-1: VIA VT8233 / A / 8235/8237 AC97 Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: snd_via82xx v: kernel bus ID: 00: 11.5
Sound Server: ALSA v: k3.16.55-slitaz64
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL-8100 / 8101L / 8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
driver: 8139cp v: 1.3 port: fc00 bus ID: 00: 09.0
IF: eth1 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Device-2: VIA VT6102 / VT6103 [Rhine-II] vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: via-rhine v: N / A port: c800 bus ID: 00: 12.0
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
IF-ID-1: dummy0 state: down mac: <filter>
IF-ID-2: tunl0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 74.56 GiB used: 14.81 GiB (19.9%)
ID-1: / dev / sda vendor: Samsung model: SP0802N size: 74.56 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 68.95 GiB used: 14.81 GiB (21.5%) fs: ext4 dev: / dev / sda1
ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: / dev / sda2
Sensors:
Missing: Required tool sensors not installed. Check –recommends
Info:
Processes: 100 Uptime: 10m Memory: 1.90 GiB used: 307.5 MiB (15.8%)
Init: SysVinit Compilers: gcc: N / A Shell: sh inxi: 3.0.37

Yesterday I tried to install Bodhi Linux, during the installation the video was perfect there were no ghosts or delay in the response, after the installation the resolution was at most 800×600, I believe that the video driver has not been installed.

I hope that with this information I can help find a way to make antiX 19.2 work on this Via video card.

Thankful.
marcelocripe

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Olá BobC, tudo bem com você?

O SliTaz está instalado no HD, tentei aplicar o comando que você sugeriu:

tux@slitaz:~$ inxi -Fxz
Command ‘inxi’ not found, but can be installed as root with:

tazpkg -gi inxi

tux@slitaz:~$ sudo tazpkg -gi inxi
Password:

Erro da checksum para “inxi-3.0.37.tazpkg”*****************| 167k 0:00:00 ETA

Verificando repositório “Main”
================================================================================
Verificando… Criando backup da lista de pacotes mais recente… Obtendo “bundle.tar.lzma”… Obtendo “files-list.lzma”… duperemove-0.11.1
exiv2-dev-0.27.3
libraryopt-1.0.1
utftpd-0.2
yaze-ag-2.40.5
inxi-3.0.37.tazpkg 100% |********************************| 167k 0:00:00 ETA
Checando dependências para: inxi
================================================================================
Pacote faltando “bash”
Pacote faltando “coreutils-disk”
Pacote faltando “gawk”
Pacote faltando “pciutils”
Pacote faltando “procps”
Pacote faltando “sed”
================================================================================
6 faltantes para instalar.

bash-5.0.11.tazpkg 100% |********************************| 350k 0:00:00 ETA
Instalação do pacote “bash”
================================================================================
The GNU bourne SHell.
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Copiando pacote… Extraindo pacote… Lembre-se de pacotes modificados… Instalando pacote… Removendo todos os arquivos temporários… Execute comandos de pós-instalação…
Do you want to set Bash to default (y/N) ? : coreutils-disk-8.31. 100% |********************************| 115k 0:00:00 ETA
Instalação do pacote “coreutils-disk”
================================================================================
GNU utilities that work with disks.
——————————————————————————–
Copiando pacote… Extraindo pacote… Lembre-se de pacotes modificados… Instalando pacote… Removendo todos os arquivos temporários… Execute comandos de pós-instalação… gawk-5.0.1.tazpkg 18% |****** |gawk-5.0.1.tazpkg 100% |********************************| 371k 0:00:00 ETA
Instalação do pacote “gawk”
================================================================================
GNU awk to handle simple data-reformatting.
——————————————————————————–
Copiando pacote… Extraindo pacote… Lembre-se de pacotes modificados… Execute comandos de pré-instalação… Instalando pacote… Removendo todos os arquivos temporários… pciutils-3.6.4.tazpk 56% |***************** |pciutils-3.6.4.tazpk 100% |********************************| 53340 0:00:00 ETA
Instalação do pacote “pciutils”
================================================================================
Linux PCI Utilities.
——————————————————————————–
Copiando pacote… Extraindo pacote… Lembre-se de pacotes modificados… Execute comandos de pré-instalação… Instalando pacote… Removendo todos os arquivos temporários… procps-3.2.8.tazpkg 33% |********** |procps-3.2.8.tazpkg 100% |********************************| 101k 0:00:00 ETA
Instalação do pacote “procps”
================================================================================
The proc filesystem utilities.
——————————————————————————–
Copiando pacote… Extraindo pacote… Lembre-se de pacotes modificados… Execute comandos de pré-instalação… Instalando pacote… Removendo todos os arquivos temporários… sed-4.8.tazpkg 100% |********************************| 70528 0:00:00 ETA
Instalação do pacote “sed”
================================================================================
GNU stream editor.
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Copiando pacote… Extraindo pacote… Lembre-se de pacotes modificados… Instalando pacote… Removendo todos os arquivos temporários… Execute comandos de pós-instalação…
Instalação do pacote “inxi”
================================================================================
Full featured CLI system information tool.
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Copiando pacote… Extraindo pacote… Lembre-se de pacotes modificados… Instalando pacote… Removendo todos os arquivos temporários.tux@slitaz:~$ tazpkg -gi inxi
Você deve ser usuário root para executar tazpkg -gi
tux@slitaz:~$ sudo tazpkg -gi inxi
Password:

O pacote “inxi” já está instalado.
Você pode usar a opção –forced para forçar a instalação.

tux@slitaz:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:
Host: slitaz Kernel: 3.16.55-slitaz64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 4.2.1) Desktop: LXDE 0.10.0 Distro: 5.0
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: Semp Toshiba Informatica Ltda product: STI
v: Rev. 10/00 serial: <filter>
Mobo: Semp Toshiba model: STI 910090 v: 4.1 serial: <filter> BIOS: Phoenix
v: 6.00 PG date: 03/25/2007
CPU:
Topology: Single Core model: Intel Celeron bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Netburst Smithfield rev: 9 L2 cache: 256 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 bogomips: 5056
Speed: 2528 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 2528
Graphics:
Device-1: VIA CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro]
vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: N/A bus ID: 01:00.0
Display: server: X.org 1.12.4 driver: vesa unloaded: fbdev
resolution: <xdpyinfo missing>
Message: Unable to show advanced data. Required tool glxinfo missing.
Audio:
Device-1: VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: snd_via82xx v: kernel bus ID: 00:11.5
Sound Server: ALSA v: k3.16.55-slitaz64
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
driver: 8139cp v: 1.3 port: fc00 bus ID: 00:09.0
IF: eth1 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Device-2: VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: via-rhine v: N/A port: c800 bus ID: 00:12.0
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
IF-ID-1: dummy0 state: down mac: <filter>
IF-ID-2: tunl0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 74.56 GiB used: 14.81 GiB (19.9%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SP0802N size: 74.56 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 68.95 GiB used: 14.81 GiB (21.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
Sensors:
Missing: Required tool sensors not installed. Check –recommends
Info:
Processes: 100 Uptime: 10m Memory: 1.90 GiB used: 307.5 MiB (15.8%)
Init: SysVinit Compilers: gcc: N/A Shell: sh inxi: 3.0.37

Ontem eu tentei instalar o Bodhi Linux, durante a instalação o vídeo estava perfeito não havia fantasmas ou atraso na resposta, após a instalação a resolução ficou no máximo 800×600, eu acredito que o driver de vídeo não foi instalado.

Eu espero que com estas informações possa ajudar a encontrar uma forma de fazer funcionar o antiX 19.2 nesta placa de vídeo Via.

Grato.
marcelocripe
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July 16, 2020 at 10:01 am #38962
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It is as I expected. I have SliTaz and had the same issues and benefits with it as you found. SliTaz is running a very old kernel (3.16) and a very old graphics server (xorg 1.12). That explains why it works.

Based on Distrowatch, https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=antix the closest antiX version to that is 13.2 which was a very good vintage, but is pretty old these days.

I would run from flashdrive or cd/dvd and try antiX 16.3 first, and if necessary try the cheat codes we have given, and if that fails, try 13.2.

I don’t know what browsers will work up to date with 13.2, but you need to be able to run first, then worry about that.
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July 16, 2020 at 11:20 am #38966
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BobC,

The interesting thing is that even with the old kernel SliTaz can run Firefox 77.0.

So the Linux kernel resembles the updates for Windows XP, Vista, 8 and 10, as the updates occur they are left behind support for various hardware.

The version of antiX 16.3 not found available on the downloadable mirrors are antiX-17.4 and antiX-19.2.

marcelocripe
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BobC,

O interessante é que mesmo com o kernel antigo o SliTaz consegue rodar o Firefox 77.0.

Então o kernel do Linux assemelha-se com as atualizações do Windows XP, Vista, 8 e 10, conforme as atualizações vão ocorrendo são deixados para trás suporte há vários hardware.

A versão do antiX 16.3 não encontrei disponíveis nos espelhos para download são antiX-17.4 e antiX-19.2.

marcelocripe
July 16, 2020 at 11:31 am #38971
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antiX 16 and 13.2 are available to download here

https://sourceforge.net/projects/antix-linux/files/Final/
July 16, 2020 at 11:39 am #38973
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BobC wrote:

antiX 16 and 13.2 are available to download here

https://sourceforge.net/projects/antix-linux/files/Final/

If necessary, the link that BobC provided has antiX images from the current releases all the way back to antiX 12, so getting older images to support old hardware should not be a problem.

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July 16, 2020 at 4:58 pm #38994
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Dear colleagues,

I will post the tests with antiX 16.3 64 bits full, I will not test the antiX 13.2 version, it does not make sense to use an older operating system than antiX 16.3, since it installs the base of Debian 8 or Debian 9, I will do the installing Debian 9.

Boot with the bootable USB stick antiX-16.3_x64-full.iso, the video did not load in graphic mode with the selection of the antiX-16.3 x64-full option (21 December 2017), after restarting the computer I selected the Safe video option Mode and the video loaded successfully and the image quality is perfect, there are no ghosts or delay in the response. The command below was applied before installing antiX 16.3:

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Caros colegas,

Irei postar os testes com o antiX 16.3 64 bits full, não irei testar a versão antiX 13.2, não faz sentido utilizar sistema operacional mais antigo que o antiX 16.3, haja vista que este instala a base do Debian 8 ou Debian 9, irei fazer a instalação do Debian 9.

Inicialização com o pendrive inicializável com a ISO antiX-16.3_x64-full.iso, o vídeo não carregou em modo gráfico com a seleção da opção antiX-16.3 x64-full (21 December 2017), após reiniciar o computador selecionei a opção Safe video Mode e o vídeo carregou com sucesso e a qualidade da imagem está perfeito, não há fantasmas ou atraso na resposta. O comando abaixo foi aplicado antes da instalação do antiX 16.3:
```
demo@antix1:~
$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.4.10-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64
           bits: 64 gcc: 4.9.2
           Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8
           Distro: antiX-16.3_x64-full Berta Cáceres 21 December 2017
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Semp Toshiba Informatica Ltda product: STI v: Rev. 10/00 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Semp Toshiba model: STI 910090 v: 4.1 serial: N/A
           BIOS: Phoenix v: 6.00 PG date: 03/25/2007
CPU:       Single core Intel Celeron (-UP-) 
           arch: Netburst Prescott rev.9 cache: 256 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3) bmips: 5056 speed: 2528 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: VIA CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro]
           bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: vesa
           Resolution: 1024x768@0.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits)
           version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
           driver: snd_via82xx port: cc00 bus-ID: 00:11.5
           Sound: ALSA v: k4.4.10-antix.1-amd64-smp
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
           driver: 8139cp v: 1.3 port: fc00 bus-ID: 00:09.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
           Card-2: VIA VT6102 [Rhine-II]
           driver: via-rhine port: c800 bus-ID: 00:12.0
           IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: NA (-)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_SP0842N size: 80.0GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: Drive_SM_USB20 size: 2.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 1.5G used: 31M (3%) fs: overlay dev: N/A
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 150 Uptime: 40 min Memory: 171.3/1938.7MB
           Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.3.53

demo@antix1:~
$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card: VIA CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: vesa
           Resolution: 1024x768@0.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits)
           version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2

demo@antix1:~
$ lspci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
	Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
	Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 8
	Memory at f4000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-via

00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. PT890 Host Bridge
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237/VX700 PCI Bridge (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: 0000b000-0000bfff
	Memory behind bridge: fb000000-fcffffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f0000000-f3ffffff
	Capabilities: <access denied>

00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev 20)
	Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
	I/O ports at fc00 
	Memory at fdfff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 
	[virtual] Expansion ROM at 7bf00000 [disabled] 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: 8139cp

00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
	I/O ports at f800 
	I/O ports at f400 
	I/O ports at f000 
	I/O ports at ec00 
	I/O ports at e800 
	I/O ports at e400 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: sata_via

00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
	[virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 
	[virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable)
	[virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 
	[virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable)
	I/O ports at e000 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: pata_via

00:10.0 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
	I/O ports at dc00 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:10.1 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
	I/O ports at d800 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:10.2 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
	I/O ports at d400 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:10.3 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
	I/O ports at d000 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:10.4 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
	Memory at fdffe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci

00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]
	Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. DFI KT600-AL / Soltek SL-B9D-FGR Motherboard
	Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0
	Capabilities: <access denied>

00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device b010
	Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
	I/O ports at cc00 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: snd_via82xx

00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78)
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
	I/O ports at c800 
	Memory at fdffd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: via-rhine

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
	Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) 
	Memory at fb000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 
	[virtual] Expansion ROM at fc000000 [disabled] 
	Capabilities: <access denied>

demo@antix1:~
$ cat /proc/cmdline
vga=788 lang=pt_BR tz=America/Sao_Paulo quiet splash=v disable=lx nomodeset xorg=safe
```
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My observations::

The antiX 17 and antiX 16 menus are more beautiful and much more readable (easier to read) than antiX 19.2, is it possible to make the newer version look like the previous ones?

Amazing! According to Conky 103MB of RAM, antiX should stay that way, requiring as little processing and memory consumption as possible.

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Then I’ll post the result after installing antiX 16.3 64 bits full.

See you …

marcelocripe

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Minhas observações:

Os menus do antiX 17 e do antiX 16 são mais bonitos e muito mais legíveis (fáceis de ler) do que do antiX 19.2, por acaso é possível deixar a versão mais nova com a aparência dos anteriores?

Que incrível! Segundo Conky 103MB de memória RAM, o antiX deveria continuar assim, exigindo o menos possível de processamento e de consumo de memória.

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Em seguida postarei o resultado após a instalação do antiX 16.3 64 bits full.

Até mais …

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I’m not sure if you can retrofit both an older kernel AND an older graphical X server with a current version of software.
You *could* try snagging an old kernel (or even copying one) from another server or an old distribution and see if the old kernel will provide the desired results with the rest of the current software.

It would certainly be a kludge – an experiment, a hack, something that doesn’t carry with it a great amount of certainty.
On the other hand it COULD be an excellent learning opportunity.

Anyone in the community here able to snag one of those old kernels and try it out? BobC, do you have the Slitaz build on the same system and is it possible to try it out, copying it to an antiX system as an alternate kernel and see what fireworks erupt?

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Yes, I’ve installed the SliTaz kernel on another OS, but it was a couple years ago and I don’t remember which distro or even what computer that was on. It did work and used a lot less memory than with the original kernel. I think it was Slackel or Salix, as they were also Slackware based.

I have never tried running an old xorg version on any system that it wasn’t intended for. I would be surprised if that worked because I can imagine that it would cause many dependency errors, but I am no expert.

When I tried SliTaz it was as a daily driver OS. I couldn’t get all of my games to work, and it was difficult to get any help to learn. I ended up moving to SlackoPup 5.7, had problems with it, and couldn’t get SlackoPup 6.3 to work. That was when I moved to antiX 15 or 16, and then 17 came out. The last SliTaz partitions I’ve tried recently wouldn’t boot.

I’ll have to see what I have. My old Pentium II and Pentium III systems have to share one video card (ATI Radeon) because the other 15 or 20 “good” video cards from when I used those systems a lot no longer work with anything but Windows 98 or DOS. Yes, there is a VIA card in that “good” box too, if I remember right. I do remember running Sabayon 5 and eventually Debian Etch on the Pentium III when I used it as my main system with 3 dual head nVidia FX5500 cards (1 AGP and 2 PCI) driving 6 screens back in the early/mid 2000’s before I built the triple nVidia dual head SLI Core II systems to replace it and add 6 more screens.

Some battles are not worth the fight. I know I’ve done dumb things before and gotten lucky, but I’m not sure I should be helping someone build Frankenstein’s Electro-dog 🙂
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I wasn’t joking. Here are the “extra” video cards i have for my older machines that won’t work with current distros because they are no longer supported. 8 with dual heads and 9 with just one. I bought the ATI Radeon for $10 so I would have one that works well.
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I may have a SliTaZ somewhere.

If so I might be able to copy a kernel and try to use it on one of my old systems.

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My old Pentium III boots, but won’t run setup. I checked the battery and its only 2.5 v, and no better batteries. With both SliTaz (Rolling 5 in One from 2014) and antiX15 it will boot, but no mouse or keyboard in X-windows. I’ll have to try again when I have a new battery, as setup is important for this machine. I tried 2 different video cards with the same result. Removed all other cards.

It’s getting old, just like me…
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BobC,

Wow! How many video cards … It is unfortunate to see so many cards that probably work and have been forced to become obsolete.

AntiX 16.3 is not accepting to maintain the br-abnt2 keyboard configuration, even after I access the Control Center, Session, Keyboard Layout, change from No Change to Portuguese, Close, back to No Change.
Here are the commands after installing antiX 16.3:

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BobC,

Nossa! Quantas placas de vídeo … É lamentável ver tantas placas que provavelmente funcionem e que foram forçadas a se tornarem obsoletas.

O antiX 16.3 não esta aceitando manter a configuração do teclado br-abnt2, mesmo após eu acessar o Centro de Controle, Sessão, Disposição do Teclado, alterar de No Change para Português, Fechar, volta para No Change.
Seguem os comandos após a instalação do antiX 16.3:
```
antix@antix:~
$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: antix Kernel: 4.4.10-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 4.9.2 Desktop: IceWM 1.3.8
           Distro: antiX-16.3_x64-full Berta Cáceres 21 December 2017
Machine:   Device: desktop System: Semp Toshiba Informatica Ltda product: STI v: Rev. 10/00 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Semp Toshiba model: STI 910090 v: 4.1 serial: N/A BIOS: Phoenix v: 6.00 PG date: 03/25/2007
CPU:       Single core Intel Celeron (-UP-) arch: Netburst Prescott rev.9 cache: 256 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3) bmips: 5056 speed: 2528 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: VIA CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: vesa Resolution: 1024x768@0.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits)
           version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller driver: snd_via82xx port: cc00 bus-ID: 00:11.5
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.10-antix.1-amd64-smp
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
           driver: 8139cp v: 1.3 port: fc00 bus-ID: 00:09.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
           Card-2: VIA VT6102 [Rhine-II] driver: via-rhine port: c800 bus-ID: 00:12.0
           IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 82.0GB (6.3% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: SAMSUNG_SP0842N size: 80.0GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: Drive_SM_USB20 size: 2.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 29G used: 3.0G (11%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.15GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda4
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 157 Uptime: 1:44 Memory: 186.9/1938.7MB Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301) inxi: 2.3.53 
antix@antix:~
$ inxi -G
Graphics:  Card: VIA CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro]
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: vesa Resolution: 1024x768@0.00hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 128 bits) version: 3.0 Mesa 10.3.2
antix@antix:~
$ lspci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
	Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
	Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 8
	Memory at f4000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-via

00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. PT890 Host Bridge
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237/VX700 PCI Bridge (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: 0000b000-0000bfff
	Memory behind bridge: fb000000-fcffffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: f0000000-f3ffffff
	Capabilities: <access denied>

00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev 20)
	Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
	I/O ports at fc00 
	Memory at fdfff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 
	[virtual] Expansion ROM at 7bf00000 [disabled] 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: 8139cp

00:0f.0 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
	I/O ports at f800 
	I/O ports at f400 
	I/O ports at f000 
	I/O ports at ec00 
	I/O ports at e800 
	I/O ports at e400 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: sata_via

00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
	[virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 
	[virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable)
	[virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 
	[virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable)
	I/O ports at e000 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: pata_via

00:10.0 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
	I/O ports at dc00 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:10.1 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
	I/O ports at d800 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:10.2 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
	I/O ports at d400 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:10.3 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
	I/O ports at d000 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:10.4 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
	Memory at fdffe000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci

00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]
	Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. DFI KT600-AL / Soltek SL-B9D-FGR Motherboard
	Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0
	Capabilities: <access denied>

00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device b010
	Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11
	I/O ports at cc00 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: snd_via82xx

00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78)
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
	I/O ports at c800 
	Memory at fdffd000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 
	Capabilities: <access denied>
	Kernel driver in use: via-rhine

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro] (rev 01) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. [MSI] Device 7211
	Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
	Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) 
	Memory at fb000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) 
	[virtual] Expansion ROM at fc000000 [disabled] 
	Capabilities: <access denied>

antix@antix:~
$ cat /proc/cmdline
BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.10-antix.1-amd64-smp root=UUID=62d3f40b-0cf1-4efb-90b8-c8c95df82516 ro zswap.zpool=zsmalloc vga=788 quiet nomodeset
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Brian,

Eu não gostaria que o BobC perdesse o seu tempo fazendo todos os testes que você sugeriu para criar algo que provavelmente terá outros tantos problemas para fazer funcionar o LibreOffice ou um navegador de internet.

Caso não seja possível instalar um navegador de internet recente no antiX 16.3, traduzir para português o LibreOffice, manter o teclado em configurado em br-abnt2, o jeito será desistir de usar o antiX 16.3 no computador com a placa de vídeo Via VT8237R Plus e instalar uma distro Linux que funcione.

O antiX 16.3 se mostrou muito mais estável neste computador com a Placa mãe MSI 238318 e placa de vídeo onboard Via VT8237R Plus do que o SliTaz, além do mais, no outro fórum eu não estou tendo todo o apoio que tenho aqui e isso faz toda a diferença, porque não dá para aprender sozinho uma distribuição Linux, disso eu tenho certeza. Não há vídeos ou conteúdos em português para antiX ou o SliTaz, sem este fórum eu não teria conseguido aprender tanto.

Se fosse em um MS Windows eu baixaria o driver no site do fabricante e o instalaria, mas no mundo Linux é tudo diferente, leva tempo para aprender e a se acostumar com essa diferença.

Agradeço a todos que colaboraram nesta postagem.

marcelocripe

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Brian,

I would not want BobC to waste his time doing all the tests you suggested to create something that will probably have as many problems to make LibreOffice or a web browser work.

If it is not possible to install a recent internet browser on antiX 16.3, translate LibreOffice into Portuguese, keep the keyboard set to br-abnt2, the way will be to give up using antiX 16.3 on the computer with the Via VT8237R Plus video card and install a working Linux distro.

AntiX 16.3 proved to be much more stable on this computer with the MSI 238318 motherboard and Via VT8237R Plus onboard video card than SliTaz, besides, in the other forum I am not having all the support I have here and that does all the difference, because you can’t learn a Linux distribution by yourself, I’m sure of that. There are no videos or content in Portuguese for antiX or SliTaz, without this forum I would not have been able to learn so much.

If it were on an MS Windows I would download the driver from the manufacturer’s website and install it, but in the Linux world everything is different, it takes time to learn and get used to this difference.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to this post.

marcelocripe
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Did you try 16.3 without the boot cheat codes?

If 16.3 won’t work, I suggest trying 15, and if it doesn’t work then try 13.2. 13.2 is very similar in components to the SliTaz, but it’s old so not sure what other problems that will bring.

I found 2 more video cards for it after I took the pic. Yes, it was a shame that whomever was writing things took out support for the old hardware, but we don’t control the wind or the waves, and must adjust to them to survive. I’m grateful that people devoted their time back then to create versions that *DO* work.
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It’s really difficult to keep all of the hardware support in place. Sometimes adding one set of features breaks other things and also the size of the image has grown tremendously anyway.

That’s just the way it is now.

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