How to upgrade to 17?

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  • #791
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      I have antiX-17.b1_x64-full but don’t know debian/antix too well. Are there some instructions on how to get to 17?
      I have looked around but maybe I’m looking for the wrong thing in the right places or the right thing in the wrong places or the wrong thing in the wrong places. One never knows.

      I installed from a live usb stick if that matters.

      The version above I got by cat /etc/antix-version

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        Presumably with the standard upgrade commands:

        sudo apt-get update
        sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

        Or for a slightly prettier upgrade process with some feedback about your progress, assuming antix has the apt command:

        sudo apt update
        sudo apt full-upgrade

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          Alright, I did try update and dist-upgrade before I asked here. I thought for sure I had done something wrong because apt-get wants to install libsystemd0. I said “no” in response to the dist-upgrade. I’m now trying to discover why libsystemd0 wants to be installed. Maybe that’s due to installing/removing other packages since the initial install of antiX.

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            FWIW, here is a list of non-systemd packages (don’t have “systemd” in the name) that depend on libsystemd0:

            389-ds-base
            389-ds-base-libs
            apt-cacher-ng
            asterisk
            beanstalkd
            brltty
            cgminer
            cinnamon-session
            cinnamon-settings-daemon
            clamav-daemon
            conntrackd
            corosync
            corosync-notifyd
            corosync-qdevice
            corosync-qnetd
            cubemap
            dlm-controld
            dnscrypt-proxy
            dnsdist
            erlang-base
            erlang-base-hipe
            fcgiwrap
            gdm3
            gnome-desktop-testing
            gnome-disk-utility
            gnome-logs
            gnome-packagekit
            gnome-screensaver
            gnome-session-bin
            gnome-shell
            gnome-system-monitor
            guestfsd
            inputattach
            iodine
            knot
            knot-resolver
            lbcd
            libczmq4
            libgdm1
            libgsystem0
            libguestfs0
            libmutter0i
            libweston-1-0
            light-locker
            lirc
            lizardfs-chunkserver
            lizardfs-master
            lizardfs-metalogger
            mariadb-client-10.1
            mariadb-server-10.1
            mariadb-server-core-10.1
            monopd
            multipath-tools
            network-manager
            nis
            nsca-ng-server
            ocserv
            onak
            openbsd-inetd
            openvpn
            packagekit
            pdns-recursor
            pdns-server
            php7.0-fpm
            postgresql-9.6
            ratbagd
            realmd
            remctl-server
            sane-utils
            sddm
            shibboleth-sp2-utils
            spice-vdagent
            sssd-ad-common
            sssd-common
            sssd-dbus
            sssd-krb5-common
            syslog-ng-core
            syslog-ng-mod-journal
            sysprof
            tgt
            tigervnc-standalone-server
            triggerhappy
            uwsgi-core
            vdr
            weston
            xbrlapi
            xorp
            yaskkserv

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              Post inxi -r so we can see what repos you are using.

              BTW – Installing libsystemd0 will not give you systemd init.

              Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

              antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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                @superluminal
                I usually do a fresh install with the new release, but keep my old /home, it is an option when you install. 🙂

                Linux (& BSD) since 1999

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                  @BitJam that list is either incomplete or something else is different, I ran apt-cache rdepends libsystemd0 | sort and have a different list. But it probably is not relevant (as anticapitalista says).

                  @anticapitalista, the repos are whatever I got from the initial install from the live usb stick. I have taken your comment as an “all clear” sign to let the upgrade install libsystemd0.

                  @fatmac I might do something like that at Release 18, but I take it a step further and buy a new HDD/SSD and then the old drive is kept near-line.

                  I ran apt full-upgrade and not that much got upgraded. But I really have no idea what version I am really at…. Maybe it doesn’t matter???

                  /etc/antix-version has not changed. Should it have?

                  The system seems to be working fine so far.

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                    I ran apt full-upgrade and not that much got upgraded. But I really have no idea what version I am really at…. Maybe it doesn’t matter???

                    /etc/antix-version has not changed. Should it have?

                    The system seems to be working fine so far.

                    No, it shouldn’t.

                    If you do apt-get purge libsystemd0, what does the terminal show?

                    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

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                      If you do apt-get purge libsystemd0, what does the terminal show?

                      It wants to remove a lot of stuff and gives a list of “no longer required” packages. Can you elaborate on where we’re going with this? Do you think there’s a problem, maybe a known problem?

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                        I ran apt full-upgrade and not that much got upgraded. But I really have no idea what version I am really at…. Maybe it doesn’t matter???

                        /etc/antix-version has not changed. Should it have?

                        The system seems to be working fine so far.

                        IF you ran apt update and apt full-upgrade, as long as you have the same repositories enabled that were enabled in antiX-17.b1_x64-full you’ll be fine; essentially you’ll have antiX 17, plus anything else you may have added.

                        The version strings do not get automatically updated when you upgrade packages. That way you know which system you started with. There are ways to change the strings manually if you really want to do that, but it shouldn’t affect normal operation of your system.

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                          The version strings do not get automatically updated when you upgrade packages. That way you know which system you started with. There are ways to change the strings manually if you really want to do that, but it shouldn’t affect normal operation of your system.

                          No, I’m fine with it staying that way. I do notice /etc/debian-version updated to 9.2.

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                            I’d like you to post the output in the terminal so we can see exactly which apps will be purged.
                            Maybe you installed something that needs libsystemd0.
                            Default antiX did not have it, it’s a mystery.
                            Unless you are using testing or sid repos (I asked you to post inxi -r to see your repos in use, but you haven’t done so)?

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                              Not sure if this is known and/or if it’s relevant. Two “404 Not Found” come from “apt update” (or “apt-get update”). I always thought these were harmless but maybe I thought wrong.

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                                Why won’t you post your repo list? Hiding something?

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                                  I’d like you to post the output in the terminal so we can see exactly which apps will be purged.
                                  Maybe you installed something that needs libsystemd0.
                                  Default antiX did not have it, it’s a mystery.
                                  Unless you are using testing or sid repos (I asked you to post inxi -r to see your repos in use, but you haven’t done so)?

                                  I’m going from memory and not logged in. I really am using the stock repos that came with the install, why do you think I’m wrong or ??? I’m open to any and all criticisms. I don’t wither easily as long as it ain’t personal.

                                  From what I’ve read here and elsewhere (reversedepends) it seems that libsystemd0 is needed by many packages and no doubt I installed one along the way. I find that packages I build for /usr/local often require pulling in a lot of stuff and that means installing lots of packages that I wouldn’t have otherwise done. Couple that with the fact that I only know the basics of dpkg,apt-*,apt and it’s clear to me that I can easily introduce problems. But as long as things keep working I don’t worry too much.

                                  It seems to me that the problem is solved. But maybe what you’re getting at is that there are some packages that are depending on libsystemd0 but should not be. I’ll post the list later when I can.

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