How to use antiX on computers with a motherboard with SIS or VIA chipset

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Hey guys.

Olá pessoal.

Here are the results of the tests I did with the Asus P5V800-MX motherboard and the “pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_x64.iso” ISO.

Seguem os resultados dos testes que eu fiz com a placa-mãe Asus P5V800-MX e a ISO “pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_x64.iso”.

Before installation, started via Safe Video Mode, Conky displays resolution at 1024×768 and RAM memory consumption of 114 MB, Connman starts automatically if you don’t have a network cable connected to the computer.

Antes da instalação, iniciado via Modo de Vídeo Seguro, o Conky exibe a resolução em 1024×768 e o consumo de memória RAM de 114 MB, o Connman inicia automaticamente caso não tenha um cabo de rede conectado no computador.

demo@antix1:~
$ inxi -Sxxx
System:
Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.4.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: IceWM 2.4.0 dm: SLiM 1.3.6
Distro: pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_x64 Lazarus 27 junio 2021
base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)

demo@antix1:~
$ inxi -Gxxx
Graphics:
Device-1: VIA CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro]
vendor: ASUSTek driver: N/A bus ID: 01.00.0 Chip ID: 1106:3344
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: vesa resolution: 1024×768~N/A
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.1 Mesa 18.3.6
direct render: Yes
demo@antix1:~
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Before installation, started via normal mode, Conky displays resolution at 1360×768 and RAM memory consumption of 114 MB, Connman starts automatically if you don’t have a network cable connected to the computer.

Antes da instalação, iniciado via modo normal, o Conky exibe a resolução em 1360×768 e o consumo de memória RAM de 114 MB, o Connman inicia automaticamente caso não tenha um cabo de rede conectado no computador.

demo@antix1:~
$ inxi -Sxxx
System:
Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.4.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: IceWM 2.4.0 dm: SLiM 1.3.6
Distro: pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_x64 Lazarus 27 junio 2021
base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)

demo@antix1:~
$ inxi -Gxxx
Graphics:
Device-1: VIA CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro]
vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A bus ID: 01.00.0 Chip ID: 1106:3344
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: openchrome
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1360×768~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.1 Mesa 18.3.6
direct render: Yes
demo@antix1:~
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After installation on hard disk, graphics mode was started normally, Conky displays resolution in 1360×768 and RAM memory consumption of 113 MB, Connman starts automatically if you don’t have a network cable connected to the computer.

Após a instalação no disco rígido, foi iniciado normalmente o modo gráfico, o Conky exibe a resolução em 1360×768 e o consumo de memória RAM de 113 MB, o Connman inicia automaticamente caso não tenha um cabo de rede conectado no computador.

demo@antix1:~
$ inxi -Sxxx
System:
Host: antix4 Kernel: 4.4.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 32
compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: IceWM 2.4.0 dm: SLiM 1.3.6
Distro: pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_64 Lazarus 27 junio 2021
base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)

demo@antix1:~
$ inxi -Gxxx
Graphics:
Device-1: VIA CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro]
vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A bus ID: 01.00.0 Chip ID: 1106:3344
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: openchrome
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1360×768~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.1 Mesa 18.3.6
direct render: Yes
demo@antix1:~
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Update of ISO “pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_386.iso” after installation on hard drive.

Atualização da ISO “pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_386.iso” após a instalação no disco rígido.

cp4@antix4:~
$ sudo apt update
Obter:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports InRelease [46,7 kB]
Obter:2 http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease [65,4 kB]
Obter:3 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease [51,9 kB]
Obter:4 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster InRelease [122 kB]
Obter:5 http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster buster InRelease [27,4 kB]
Obter:6 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster/main i386 Packages [7.863 kB]
Obter:7 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages [7.907 kB]
Obter:8 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster/main Translation-pt_BR [683 kB]
Obter:9 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster/main Translation-pt [309 kB]
Obter:10 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster/main Translation-en [5.968 kB]
Obter:11 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster/contrib i386 Packages [46,0 kB]
Obter:12 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster/contrib amd64 Packages [50,1 kB]
Obter:13 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster/contrib Translation-en [44,2 kB]
Obter:14 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster/non-free amd64 Packages [87,7 kB]
Obter:15 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster/non-free i386 Packages [76,2 kB]
Obter:16 http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian buster/non-free Translation-en [88,9 kB]
Obter:17 http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster buster/main amd64 Packages [322 kB]
Obter:18 http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster buster/main i386 Packages [315 kB]
Obter:19 http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster buster/nonfree i386 Packages [24,3 kB]
Obter:20 http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster buster/nonfree amd64 Packages [24,3 kB]
Obter:21 http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster buster/nosystemd amd64 Packages [5.145 B]
Obter:22 http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster buster/nosystemd i386 Packages [5.131 B]
Lendo listas de pacotes… Pronto
E: Release file for http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/buster-backports/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 20h 1min 37s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
E: Release file for http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/dists/buster-updates/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 20h 1min 36s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
E: Release file for http://security.debian.org/dists/buster/updates/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 19h 13min 44s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.
cp4@antix4:~
$ sudo apt upgrade
Lendo listas de pacotes… Pronto
Construindo árvore de dependências
Lendo informação de estado… Pronto
Calculando atualização… Pronto
Os pacotes a seguir serão mantidos em suas versões atuais:
xserver-common xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-aiptek
xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-elographics
xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-joystick xserver-xorg-input-kbd
xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-glide
xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-qxl xserver-xorg-video-r128
xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-savage
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-vesa
xserver-xorg-video-vmware
Os pacotes a seguir serão atualizados:
icewm icewm-common
2 pacotes atualizados, 0 pacotes novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos e 33 não atualizados.
É preciso baixar 1.259 kB de arquivos.
Depois desta operação, 296 kB adicionais de espaço em disco serão usados.
Você quer continuar? s
Obter:1 http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster buster/main amd64 icewm amd64 2.5.0-1.0antix1 [634 kB]
Obter:2 http://repo.antixlinux.com/buster buster/main amd64 icewm-common amd64 2.5.0-1.0antix1 [625 kB]
Baixados 1.259 kB em 2s (575 kB/s)
(Lendo banco de dados … 146569 ficheiros e directórios actualmente instalados.)
A preparar para desempacotar …/icewm_2.5.0-1.0antix1_amd64.deb …
A descompactar icewm (2.5.0-1.0antix1) sobre (2.4.0-1.0antix1) …
A preparar para desempacotar …/icewm-common_2.5.0-1.0antix1_amd64.deb …
A descompactar icewm-common (2.5.0-1.0antix1) sobre (2.4.0-1.0antix1) …
Configurando icewm-common (2.5.0-1.0antix1) …
A processar ‘triggers’ para hicolor-icon-theme (0.17-2) …
A processar ‘triggers’ para man-db (2.8.5-2) …
A processar ‘triggers’ para menu (2.1.47+b1) …
Configurando icewm (2.5.0-1.0antix1) …
A processar ‘triggers’ para menu (2.1.47+b1) …
cp4@antix4:~
$

I restarted the computer, graphics mode loaded normally after antiX update:

Eu reiniciei o computador, o modo gráfico carregou normalmente após a atualização do antiX:

demo@antix1:~
cp4@antix4:~
$ inxi -Sxxx
System:
Host: antix4 Kernel: 4.4.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: IceWM 2.5.0 dm: SLiM 1.3.6
Distro: pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_x64 Lazarus 27 junio 2021
base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)

cp4@antix4:~
$ inxi -Gxxx
Graphics:
Device-1: VIA CN700/P4M800 Pro/P4M800 CE/VN800 Graphics [S3 UniChrome Pro]
vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 1106:3344
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: openchrome
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1360×768~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.1 Mesa 18.3.6
direct render: Yes
cp4@antix4:~
$

I hope this information can be useful to others. Now we have available the tests with the ISO “pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_386.iso” that I posted on 07/03/2021 and with the ISO “pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_x64.iso” on the 07/04/2021.

Eu espero que estas informações possam ser úteis para outras pessoas. Agora temos disponíveis os testes com a ISO “pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_386.iso” que postei no dia 03-07-2021 e com a ISO “pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_x64.iso” no dia 04-07-2021.

Thank you very much Xecure.

Muito obrigado Xecure.

marcelocripe

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I’m very pleased to read the successes of antiX users with old computers like the Pentium-III. I have several of these old machines and it is part of my hobby to see what these old computers are still capable of in this modern time. I have had similar successes that show these old computer to still be quite capable, even for YouTube video (at least for now, until YouTube changes again and leaves the old ways behind).

I have had great success with antiX also on old Pentium 4 equipment and at least one Celeron laptop that uses the OpenChrome driver. I am also now experimenting with a few older Pentium-II machines. But my favorite for antiX remains the P-III.

Thank you all for your reports of your successes, and especially Xecure for your work in helping Marcelo and others with old equipment using SiS and Via video.

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Hello dear.

Another computer with a Via graphics card (Gigabyte GA-VM900M motherboard) dear was “revived” with the ISO “pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_x64.iso”. It was necessary to boot into secure video mode.

Thank you very much Xecure.

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Olá caros.

Mais um computador com placa de vídeo Via (placa-mãe Gigabyte GA-VM900M) foi “revivido” com a ISO “pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_x64.iso”. Foi necessário inicializar no modo de vídeo seguro.

Muito obrigado Xecure.

After installing and updating antiX:
Após a instalação e atualização do antiX:

maria@antix:~
$ inxi -Fnz
System:
Kernel: 4.4.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 2.9.1
Distro: pseudo-antiX-19-legacy-bet3_x64 Lazarus 27 junio 2021
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: GA-VM900M v: N/A serial: <filter>
Mobo: Gigabyte model: VM900M serial: <filter> BIOS: Award v: F5
date: 05/02/2007
CPU:
Info: Single Core model: Intel Celeron 420 bits: 64 type: MCP cache:
L2: 512 KiB
Speed: 1608 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 1608
Graphics:
Device-1: VIA CN896/VN896/P4M900 [Chrome 9 HC] driver: N/A
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: loaded: vesa
resolution: 1280×1024
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.1 Mesa 18.3.6
Audio:
Device-1: VIA VT8237A/VT8251 HDA driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.4.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
Network:
Device-1: VIA VT6102/VT6103 [Rhine-II] driver: via-rhine
IF: eth0 state: unknown speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 163.61 GiB used: 14.13 GiB (8.6%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: HD161GJ size: 149.05 GiB
ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Generic model: Flash Disk size: 14.56 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 39.12 GiB used: 3.74 GiB (9.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-2: /home size: 102.9 GiB used: 10.39 GiB (10.1%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/sda2
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda3
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 138 Uptime: 24m Memory: 2.2 GiB used: 234.7 MiB (10.4%)
Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.06
maria@antix:~
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Procurei por um bom tempo, testei várias distro, e nunca deu certo. Minha primeira tentativa foi uma Distro Kurumin Linux em 2009, na época testei só com essa, continuei com windows XP mesmo, em 2017, passei a usar Windows 7, a placa mãe com seu Chipset VIA, dava tela azul direto, me irritava muito. Em 2020, tentei Ubuntu 8.04 e funcionou, mas era uma distribuição antiga, testei outras, puppy linux, zorin, Q4os. Agora em dezembro de 2021, com uma pesquisada no Google, cheguei ao Fórum do Antix, descobri essa Distribuição, com essa iso personizada, e finalmente consegui rodar. Parabéns a todos empenhados nesse grande projeto ✌️👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

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I have a little problem, this build is capable of OpenGL?. Because I try to use LZDOOM and the PC can’t run the game with 3d acceleration.

glxinfo, shows Direct Rendering: yes

But the game can’t use opengl acceleration.

[Member marcelocripe]

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Hello madnux.

I have a little problem, this build is capable of OpenGL?

Unfortunately I don’t have the necessary technical knowledge to help you and answer your question. It is important that you know that problems related to OpenGL also occur with the official ISO, but according to the Wikipedia text:

The OpenGL specification describes an abstract API for drawing 2D and 3D graphics. Although it is possible for the API to be implemented entirely in software, it is designed to be implemented mostly or entirely in hardware.

The problem must be in the “hardware”, or I can still assume that it is the “hardware” + “driver” combination of the video card.

I would like you to read all the conversations that took place in this thread from the beginning so you can understand the real purpose of this thread and that we cannot “demand” an operating system to work perfectly on “hardware” that has been abandoned by the developers of the “drivers” ” or that are considered obsolete “hardware”. I’m glad that I still manage to make these “hardwares” work somehow.

marcelocripe
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Olá madnux.

I have a little problem, this build is capable of OpenGL?

Infelizmente eu não possuo conhecimentos técnicos necessários para poder te ajudar e para responder a sua pergunta. É importante que você saiba que os problemas relacionados ao OpenGL também ocorrem com a ISO oficial, mas segundo o texto do Wikipédia:

The OpenGL specification describes an abstract API for drawing 2D and 3D graphics. Although it is possible for the API to be implemented entirely in software, it is designed to be implemented mostly or entirely in hardware.

O problema deve estar no “hardware”, ou ainda posso supor que seja da combinação “hardware” + “driver” da placa de vídeo.

Eu gostaria que você lê-se todas conversas que ocorreram neste tópico desde o início para você poder compreender o real objetivo deste tópico e que não podemos “exigir” que um sistema operacional funcione perfeitamente em “hardwares” que foram abandonados pelos desenvolvedores dos “drivers” ou que são considerados “hardware” obsoletos. Eu fico contente por ainda conseguir fazer funcionar estes “hardwares” de alguma forma.

marcelocripe
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madnux wrote:

… use LZDOOM and …e opengl acceleration.

you must check also if the game try to enables shaders, or other features not yet present in such hardware..

as i said before the “ugly hack” does not work at all, you must use and older kernel and an specific version of xorg.. recommended its to use debina wheeze or debian jeeze .. that’s why venenux vegnuli has repositories with backported packages.. the recent kernels have only CRI2 and 3 and openchrome uses DRI1

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Xecure wrote:

I have built a new legacy ISO, based on antiX 19.4 FULL packages, for both 32 and 64 bits.

Changes:
* kernel 4.4.0-264 (thanks to anticapitalista’s efforts).
* Fixed the “invalid EXPRESSIG” error by updating the antiX signatures package.
* Aprox 1.3 GBs ISO. Now it is MUCH bigger to include almost the exact same packages as antiX 19.4 Full (includes seamonkey, libreoffice, etc.).
* Renamed the project to “pseudo-antiX” to not dirty the antiX name, as this is a very inferior product compared to the current antiX 19.4 release.
* This release DOES NOT include the improved live system changes (as it is based on the antiX 19 iso-template-antix_19.18 initdr and boot)
* Included a sis xorg driver that comes from the antiX 15-16 (jessie) repos. Hopefully this will make it possible to use real SIS xorg driver, and better results than vesa.
* Up to date packages.

i386 ISO: pseudo-antix-19 legacy bet3 (32 bits) (md5sum)
amd64 ISO: pseudo-antix-19 legacy bet3 (64 bits) (md5sum)

And up with it!

Hi Xecure,

I know this sounds rude, but would it be possible to create an actual customized base version of antiX22?

I have problems with my small Nettop under antiX22 to reach a reasonable resolution.

See also: https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/targa-nt9231-resolution-max-640×480/

Greetings

Es kann nur e1nen geben!

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@ext4: Xecure did some excellent work while he was a member of our forum. For personal reasons I do not know Xecure chose to leave the forum and we have not seen him at all for well over a year, definitely not at all during the antiX 22 or 23 development efforts.

Also, what was created is no longer supported and may even be difficult to obtain, but if anyone is able to replicate this work, that would be nice for those who have such old hardware that our current releases are unable to work for them.

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replication of the work cannot be possible anymore.. due the XORG problems and changes.. the SIS and VIA modules uses DRI1 that is now deprecated and some pieces of code just are not updated..

also its ilogical to use recent kernels that does not improved performance.. cos 32bit oldering.. that’s why i provide 32bit support and repository with backported packages for

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