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Marie_Perdelwitz
I was downstairs in my basement workshop yesterday afternoon cleaning up my mess when the electric went out. Came on for 2 seconds, went out for a second, came on for a second and then went out for half an hour. During the last second on, I noticed where my flash light was on my workbench and retrieved it. (I don’t like the dark, especially in basements!)
Wife came running downstairs with her flashlite and asked, “Marie, are you playing with the electric down here, the lites are out upstairs!”
And, of course, it was storming outdoors from the rainstorms from Cristobal.
If you are not familiar with the way electric works, I will give a quick explanation…When the electric goes off, so do the computers!
And yesterday was no exception…EXCEPT…it was my computer. You see, I lost my record of “uptime”. And now, I have to start over. I had an uptime of 45 days without rebooting!
When I install a new Operating System I reboot twice after install just to make sure everything ‘takes’ in the reboot. I have been giving antix19.2 a workout over the last 45 days and I am liking it. It does what I need it to do.
Now for my question…
What are *your* uptimes like?
Brian Masinick
I don’t keep equipment running, but I may be able to give you an uptime for my Refurbished Google Pixel 3 smartphone.
I tend to leave it on.
I’ve seen people go months at a time and if you include servers at work with at least one subsystem always running, that can be measured in years.
Both UNIX and Linux servers are very reliable.
Phone security update today, happens at least twice a year.
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Dave
Hmm. Most of them are power cycled now…. also due to an power outage that lasted longer than the batteries. Two others though
18:42:23 up 173 days, 9:02, 1 user, load average: 0.20, 0.17, 0.17
18:22:23 up 211 days, 23:36, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00Computers are like air conditioners. They work fine until you start opening Windows. ~Author Unknown
rayluo
I don’t keep equipment running
Just so you know, in the antiX logout menu, there is a Suspend option which brings my laptop to consume only 1 Watt. Next day you can resume, and the sleep time seems to count into uptime.
Back in the old days, I use Hibernate option (which consumes zero watt) when using Windows XP, so that I have my personal uptime record of 6+ months.
Nowadays, most Android devices are also very stable, it can keep your uptime for easily 1 month or 2, until you forgot to charge your phone/tablet, and that’s your fault. However, sometimes my Android device would automatically shutdown and then it would have an automatic or manual reboot, but Android does not count such crash time as a downtime, so your uptime counter will continue. You can call it cheating. 🙂
All above are just about consumer usage. If you look into your virtual machines on the cloud, they can run for years.
Brian Masinick
My system updated to the latest security bulletin for Android 10 late this morning.
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rokytnji
Right now. This box is om because I am updating it. Plus it is a guest computer ror my visitors from the road,
harry@shop1:~ $ pinxi -b System: Host: shop1 Kernel: 4.9.0-0.bpo.5-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.2 Distro: MX-16_x64 Metamorphosis 12 December 2016 Machine: Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Precision WorkStation T3400 v: N/A serial: <superuser/root required> Mobo: Dell model: 0TP412 serial: <superuser/root required> BIOS: Dell v: A09 date: 06/04/2009 CPU: Dual Core: Intel Core2 Duo E7400 type: MCP speed: 2791 MHz Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA G71 [GeForce 7900 GS] driver: nouveau v: kernel Display: server: X.Org 1.16.4 driver: nouveau unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV49 v: 2.1 Mesa 12.0.3 Drives: Local Storage: total: 149.05 GiB used: 62.94 GiB (42.2%) Info: Processes: 182 Uptime: 1h 10m Memory: 3.80 GiB used: 972.1 MiB (25.0%) Shell: bash pinxi: 3.1.01-24I used to run a UPC with these things. But it was not really cost effective to keep my media box from shutting down due to Tx summer brown outs that are a daily occurrence
Because air conditioners are running full blast.If you think starting over is a pain. Then maybe a upc will fit your needs. UPC’s are battery powered power supplies kept charged by your main house voltage plug with your computer plugged into the UPC, If you find one where you can change the batteries. It could possibly last for your lifetime. I have a oldy metal car battery charger on wheels that is older than most members here and it still is working. Not to mention my 225 amp farm plug type welder from Westinghouse that I kept < Dad after he passed on >. I refurbished that though to be fair.
Having computers scattered from house to the shop. My uptime is determined by where I am standing. Then there are motorcycle saddlebags, chromebook ,Samsung phone as the router.
Uptime is determined by the needs of that day.Sometimes I drive a crooked road to get my mind straight.
Not all who Wander are Lost.
I'm not outa place. I'm from outer space.Linux Registered User # 475019
How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsBrian Masinick
Hey Roki, I am with you as far as a bunch of equipment.
Since retirement and a move from Michigan to South Carolina, both my wife and I have scaled back.
Neither one of us has a full-time desktop computer any more. My Dell Inspiron 5558, a pretty heavy and solid laptop, is the closest thing I have to a “desktop”, though I do have it at a desk that I can fold and close up; it’s a classic wooden desktop too.In addition to the Dell Inspiron I have an aging Lenovo N22 Chromebook and my wife has one too.
I run mine with the latest Chrome OS build and check it out periodically, but not that often. It lacks keyboard lighting, so late night usage is unrealistic; I’d have to keep a light on. The keyboards on the Lenovo and the Dell aren’t the best; I think that of the major manufacturers, IBM’s models in the past, all of their desktop keyboards and their old Thinkpad laptops, were among the best. You have to get a good keyboard from a keyboard. Those big Microsoft keyboards aren’t too bad, but they still lack that solid feel of a really good keyboard.We both have smartphones; some days we use them more than the computer systems unless we have a lot of typing to do. My wife has two other computers – an old Acer laptop that she used to have connected to a large monitor and keyboard when we had a condo in Michigan. I think we keep it only for the rare case of creating or updating some rare Word document that doesn’t render exactly the same as with the genuine Microsoft Word. Frankly, most of the time Google Docs does just fine and we can even convert Docs to .doc or .docx format so we rarely use it. Same with a really small RCA laptop; it has Windows 10 installed and it was cheap. My wife is happy with her Chromebook and rarely pulls out either of these other units, especially now that we have both retired.
The only reason I keep the Dell is so that I can fiddle in my spare time with Linux distros. I do it as a hobby; being retired, I probably could get by fine with just the Pixel 3, which has enough software to read word processor and spreadsheet files, but it doesn’t have a tactile keyboard. Writing stuff like this is much easier on a real keyboard, even on a laptop.
I don’t have the bikes or the shop. We live in an independent retirement community. Last summer we did a lot of traveling. We did have plans to travel to a few places, but the recent pandemic has put a pause on some of that. However, if they lock this place down again, we may go to Colorado to visit my wife’s second brother, his wife, and possibly our niece and another relative. The brother lives in a ski resort community. Usually they have a great ski season and this time of year provides summer vacation travelers, but that hasn’t been the case. The only people there until very recently have been people who were more or less either stuck there or stopping in as local customers or employees who couldn’t leave; most of the staff had to be released because the place was like a ghost town. We were planning one visit there and another one up the East Coast from the Carolinas to the New England coast of Maine, New Hampshire and Massachusetts. That one is a big question mark; an event we had planned to attend was cancelled. We’re mostly checking out the best farms and food spots; we have a few local sources that can get us really good food that we’re cooking at home, so that is “something to do”.
Other than that I check out forums and update my current Linux distros; I have antiX in two varieties – the regular one – I may have built what I wanted from either Base or Full; I also have antiX runit – I definitely built that one from Base and have updated to the latest images. I also have MX 19.2, or whatever the updated code is called, That would be my most stable configuration. I have a true Debian setup too. At one point it was a Stable Buster build but I enabled some software at some point in time that put me back into a Debian Sid setup, which I am comfortable with (and in spite of “SystemD” it still runs like a typically solid Debian system, despite that and the “unstable” Sid software.
Right at the moment I happen to be using Peppermint Linux 10; it’s a reasonably light and efficient distribution. I like it and keep it around, but I have a long bias for MEPIS/MX as my stable desktop, always antiX for my small, efficient, lean, and experimental efforts along with Debian Sid; I kick caution to the wind on that one and dare it to fail; every 3-5 years if I do something crazy enough (the things we are warned NOT to do), I’ll break something; half of the time I can fix ’em; if the network breaks, I rebuild it once again.
I also have a PCLinuxOS; I’ve had to use the “recovery boot” on that one for several months now because the standard options they put on their boot commands don’t work on my system; starting without X and then changing the run level gets that one working; I’ve been playing with the Trinity (a.k.a. “old KDE”) and the Trinity desktop is actually pretty fast and like KDE 3 used to be 15-20 years ago (great for “fossils” like me)! 😉
Rounding out the systems, I also have Fedora 32 and openSUSE Tumbleweed; both have been working well and both have vastly improved their packaging and overall stability. Going back in time, the RPM infrastructures in those distributions were very slow compared to Debian packaging and the working software was equally slow. They are much more comparable both in features and function to Debian dpkg, apt, and other tools. Fedora is probably the #1 leader in putting together SELinux software, though we can get it in most distributions today. OpenSUSE is another solid, mature, long lasting distribution. Comparing them to our favorites is mainly an exercise in preferences. Without a doubt antiX is leaner, so if you want lean, antiX is great. If, however you want to learn enterprise software and want a freely available set of packages that feeds into each of the enterprise software releases, Fedora is a good way to see what Red Hat Enterprise Linux is building; likewise for Tumbleweed feeding into SuSE Linux Enterprise [Server, Desktop}.
At the end of the day, an experienced person can make a good system out of any of them, adding or removing whatever is desired. We know what we have in antiX – to me it is my perfect starting point for whatever I want to construct.
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