I need my hand held re: installing antiX to HD

[Member mrpieceofwork]

I have issues using the LiveUSB OS also. I cannot open a terminal window for the life of me (either they start and quickly go away, or I’m asked to enter a password… so I try “TheOneIEnteredTwiceAtSetUp123” “root” and “demo” and none of them work)…
as a read all the instructions people give to fix that issue, my eyes glaze over, and I am reminded of the above. No where to input commands.

I’m also without any alternatives to use the interwebs, as I don’t have any other device but this one, AND I have only the ONE USB stick that’s running this OS rn, so I need to get the install nailed down on the first try.

I have made copies of all the stuff that will be lost forever when I finally kill Windows. I won’t miss it.

Now, like I said, I need my hand held. I’m not embarrassed to say that lol… what’s my next step? Thanks.

[Member mrpieceofwork]

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I should say, I’m not over studying things for some time before doing this, I just get anxious knowing I have to endure the dreaded BSOD and more when I want to use all the stuff that I’m used to using for the past 25 yrs… IOW, I want to get used to this OS, but am not really able to as it’s set up rn.

[Moderator christophe]

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Best advice I can give you:
Use the live usb some more.
With that, right-click on desktop. on the menu popup, left click terminal (up on top).
Now type whatever commands you were referring to above.

Since you are having such trouble, I really think you need to practice a lot more with the live usb before you jump into an installation, where you will be stranded, as it were, if you don’t get it perfect the first time.

Give yourself time to use linux a little bit.

And we can help you further as you are able to learn it.

Practice & do some basic research as you get able — when you learn one thing, then go to the next.

I hope this helps. 🙂

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[Moderator christophe]

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We really cannot hold your hand here, but the more I think about this, the more I think you should start fresh with a new live-usb (i.e., make it again).
Boot up with defaults (hit enter).
If there isn’t something I don’t know about, then you should end up on the default antiX desktop.
Then click once on the installer icon.

Before you start up, though, read up on the steps for the installer. Search the forum for tips on that, because some people do find it confusing at the partitioning part. Look into runwiththedolphin’s videos on youtube – his antiX & MX videos on the antiX/MX installer should help greatly. Other than that, it’s smooth-sailing.

But booting antiX media & installing really is not hard. If you ever installed Windows XP, for example, it’s about the same. Mostly waiting for it to finish (but much quicker than XP). 🙂

edit: After you make a new usb, set up wifi (if you use it), and orient yourself before you remove Windows. Get acclimated (by using the live-usb for a while), so you don’t run into unforseen problems that you need to ask us questions about.

Hold hands? No. Answer specific questions? Absolutely!
We are here to help. So ask away. This is your thread. 🙂

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[Member punranger]

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I would like to add to what Christopher says: First of all, maybe try creating the live USB again, and start from scratch. I would go with antiX 22 full ISO. Next, try to boot up with as little customization as possible. I generally just change the keyboard layout for my language. Stick with the default username and password for now, since the USB by default resets when you reboot.

Now, if you get that working, it might be a good idea to play around with the USB a while before trying an installation. Specifically, it might be a good idea to try to get persistence working on the USB. I don’t know your setup, but I would look in the advanced options menu at boot, try enabling the “text menus” option, and selecting the “persist all” option with the smallest possible persistence file size, and leave everything else at default. This way, you don’t have to start from scratch every time you reboot. A live USB with persistence is a great tool to have at your disposal, it’s like an operating system in your pocket. If you can’t get persistence working, no worries. The USB will in that case reset on reboot.

PS. Check the video in my signature for a walk-through of a standard installation.

EDIT: I see Chris beat me to it – his advice mirrors mine, and he really knows his sh*t!

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[Member mrpieceofwork]

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@christophe @punranger thank you both. punranger, I actually watched your vid about installing literally minutes after posting this, not knowing it was you, it was suggested after I watched a short runningwdolphins vid.

I DO have persistence set to all, and it is indeed nice to have everything stay the same at each reboot. I will reset the USB to fix the password issue, my only ?s are: do I set it again when it prompts me to do so at the beginning? (it was rather alarming when they popped up NGL) and I assume the persistence is going to be scrapped as it’s stored on the USB (afaik) or is it on the HDD? How do I check? Thanks again.

[Moderator christophe]

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Persistence defaults to the boot device. Everything will be brand new when you remake it.

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[Member mrpieceofwork]

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Am I correct saying I am not able to install a browser I downloaded because I’m 1) stuck in the Live demo acct, and/or 2) using a USB stick with very limited space (when I put the browser install package in the software installer on the desktop, the the software installer acts like it’s going to install antiX ??? to the HDD, only shows the HDD, and never mentions the browser) thanks

[Forum Admin rokytnji]

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If you ever get to the installer section. When it gets to copy files part. Look at the r/h button. If it says next, follow it. Go through the whole process like passwords and stuff.

Copy files will be waiting patiently for you to complete that step. Otherwise. It just sits there.

I have my install procedures down now to less than 30 minutes to get a computer online and most hardware going . But I have more practice than you.
I figure a hour tops in your case. I tell you what. It is quicker that Windows 2000 install. Good luck.

Edit: Installed stuff like browsers on persist usb does not carry over to the install. Minor changes on fresh live run can saved though. Live session is set up for that.
Heck after install. Install your preferred browser then.

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[Member mrpieceofwork]

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I just wanted to use O instead of FF. I’ve had many bad experiences with FF going way back, and even rn it ruins the color on my website… ’tis weird, borks something in the W3C CSS sheet I have linked. Web-dev… fun stuff.

[Member ModdIt]

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Hi mr*work Pls take time to understand the way antiX can be used. I run live months at a time, updating but not installing.
Save files and documents to a second stick upgrade and remaster once a week or so. really no hurry to install before
being confident.

Before installing to an internal drive you should update fully, if your usb stick is too small or remaining
space too small move all personal files etc to another stick. i find 8GB pretty near minimum workable. Prefer 32GB
which in most countrys is pretty cheap.
Do an apt full-upgrade then remaster your usb stick just before installing.
Agree on partitioning being sometimes confusing. If this old fart can get it you can, just take your time, if unsure
ask for more assistance. Please do give details, our chrystal ball is broken so unable to see where you are if stuck.
Install takes from about 8 minutes to maybe an hour depending on skill level and device.

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[Member mrpieceofwork]

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Thanks @Moddit… I am not sure if I can apt… I assume it requires root authority? (tho, I DID figure out how to get shell access finally, and have been testing it out) I’ll just redo the USB in Win with a fresh package, as was advised above, then boot straight into installing to disk.

Oh, and should I do anything to Windows before installing? (I will abs. need to do this soon, as the USB running this Live is the only one I’ve got, and I would like to have some files back locally, instead of uploading/downloading them all the time… the entire HDD is locked up by Win)

[Moderator BobC]

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I agree that you should use the USB to make sure antiX is right for you before erasing your Windows.

You might consider setting up a dual boot system if you still want to be able to run Windows for something.

[Moderator BobC]

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mrpieceofwork wrote:

the entire HDD is locked up by Win)

If you Compress and then Defragment the drive it will save lots of space.

You can Shrink the Windows volume to make room for a Linux volume.

If that doesn’t save enough space you can reduce or remove the “unmoveable” Windows files, and then Shrink the volume more.

These are of course general statements. If you have already done those things, there truly may not be any space as you have said.

[Member mrpieceofwork]

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It’s not an issue of lack of space… the disk has plenty, and like you’re saying, I can make even more. It’s that the WinVista OS on the disk is the ONLY copy I have, other than the restore volume attached to it, and neither of the 2 do I trust at all to be stable/re-install correctly (if I break the OS and try to restore it… and I’ve never had any luck with that)

One of the main reasons I finally looked into Linux was because this copy of Windows crashes all the time, seemingly because the processor wasn’t doing anything, or the CPU got too hot, or a program was hogging all the memory and I tried to open another one. I can’t risk sending it into a huge process like shrinking or compressing that will take possibly days to accomplish. It just may not be practical to do that. Also, anyways, there is a serious limit to what I can access online in it, bc no “modern” browsers can be installed on it. Then, finally, I’ve been using Win OSs exclusively since 1997… and I’m done with them altogether now. I want to move on.
Sorry if that sounds terse or snippy. I don’t intend that at all. I just want to make sure I’m 100% when I finally do this, as it’s going to be a huge change… but for the better, IMO

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