IceWM adding built in tiling keys

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      Thanks for the info BobC, as a dedicated Icewm user good news.

      Maybe good to add that KP in commands stands for KEYPAD.
      Some users/readers will not know for sure.

      Wingrid is IMHO easier to use on some netbooks and laptops due to need to switch
      the keypad function on and off.

      I May make a custom version of ICEWM keys file to get same setup as used by Wingrid.

      Means of course I would remove wingrid first then only use ICEWM functionality.

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        Yes, an advantage of the WinGrid methodology is that you can assign the same function to multiple sets of keystrokes

        In my test, I left WinGrid controlling the number key row, and assigned the Ctrl+Shift+KP keys to IceWM’s Quadrant tiling, WinArrange is on the Ctrl+Alt+KP keys, but maybe Alt+Shift+KP keys would be better for ease of remembering.

        I may try that…

        Result was that Alt+Shift+KP keys don’t work on my keyboard. Maybe it works on other keyboards. Using the WinGrid methodology, if you knew that Alt+Shift+KP works sometimes and when it doesn’t, Ctrl+Shift+KP keys do work, then you could assign BOTH to the WinGrid functions, and then whichever one worked for that keyboard could be used. Not an optimal solution, but at least always functional. I have to think more on that…

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          The problem with using alt+F10 to maximize a window is that it leaves the title bar at the top, thats why I’ve added some lines in the winoptions file to start my usual applications in fullscreen. When on a small screen (ie a netbook) it makes a difference. I guess I could prefoveride and set the titlebar height to 0. When tiling four windows in quadrants, having four titlebars is a waste of screen real estate. But I realize I’m probably a bit pedantic about this.

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            I created antiX-Magic-SmallThin (thin refers to the thin titlebar) for small screens.

            I suppose you could override the titlebar height as well.

            Or just keep using WinGrid.

            I created a 7/8 screen WinGrid-Zoom function, too, btw, but I doubt that would help you. It’s nice for programming when I want to be able to easily pop up any of the quadrant windows to reference or copy/paste from them…

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              Thank you, thats very useful! Any way to get these themes on antiX 19 other than creating an antiX 21 usb stick and extracting them?

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                They are included in one of the packages. Do you know how to search for which package? You could just install that package. That’s the clean way to do it. Otherwise, search here for “new theme icewm magic” and you’ll find where I created the special thin one for Moddit and his laptops, and the MAC style one for someone else.

                They also have thicker grab points for sizing, because its so hard to grab a tiny corner. I have mostly laptops, too 🙂

                Computers were put here to do things FOR people, not the other way around!

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                  apt-file search default.theme

                  icewm-themes-antix: /usr/share/icewm/themes/antiX-Magic-Small/default.theme

                  So, see if you can find a icewm-themes-antix .deb file that comes with antiX 21.

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                    So, look here

                    http://ftp.linux.edu.lv/mxlinux/antix/bullseye/pool/main/i/icewm-themes-antix/icewm-themes-antix_0.3.10_all.deb

                    I think it should work if you have a recent IceWM version. It would probably be wise to test it on a flashdrive system first just to be safe, or just install the particuar themes you are missing would be safest.

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                      Thanks! Turns out sudo apt install icewm-themes-antix does the trick, although its version 0.3.5 in antix 19. Downloading the deb upgrades it to 0.3.10, and it seems to work just fine. antiX 19 still receives icewm updates. So now I have LOTS of new themes to explore!

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                        The version of IceWM that includes this feature is now in the antiX 21 repos, Thanks anticapitalista 🙂

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                          IceWM devs never cease to surprise me- with a nice default style, a correctly configured toolbar and menu (and for users that require that, Desktop icons managed by rox/zzzfm), its probably one of the best floating/semi-tiling window managers around!

                          P.

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                            IceWM devs never cease to surprise me- with a nice default style, a correctly configured toolbar and menu (and for users that require that, Desktop icons managed by rox/zzzfm), its probably one of the best floating/semi-tiling window managers around!

                            P.

                            Didn’t comment on this earlier, maybe I either didn’t notice it or had something else “going on” at the time, but yes, I’ve always thought that IceWM is one of the nicest window managers available for those who truly don’t need or don’t want a full-featured desktop environment. In fact, history will confirm that I was the one to suggest to anticapitalista, many years ago now, that we continue to offer Fluxbox and other window managers, because some enthusiasts still prefer them, but to make IceWM the default because it’ll be reasonable to use, even for someone not familiar with our software or Linux software. That has turned out to be a pretty good choice in my opinion. People who want fancy features and know what they are doing are better equipped to install whatever they want and customize to their heart’s content; as it turns out, PPC has done a really nice job adding tools and features right on top of IceWM, for those who want them, and others can simply use IceWM as is; not particularly fancy, but it works great!

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