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blur13
Hi!
I can’t figure out how to hide/remove the titlebar from all windows. There is a hide titlebar when maximized option. There is a way to hide the titlebar for specific window classes / applications in the winoptions file. But why on earth is’nt there a universal preference for this?
Anyone know how to do this?
ModdIt
Far better answer from xecure. Removed my post
- This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by ModdIt.
rokytnji
Never mind. My mind transposed title bar into task bar.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by rokytnji.
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I can’t figure out how to hide/remove the titlebar from all windows
Are you not using DWM or Herbstluftwm as default? I think titlebar is not used in these WMs…
Under IceWM this would be interesting though…Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters
Xecure
Remove titlebar on all windows:
1. Create a file named prefoverride in ~/.icewm/ with this content:
TitleBarHeight=0
2. Restart icewm sessionRemove/reactivate decorations on some windows:
I found at the end of the icesh instructions an example that toggles between all decorations vs no decorations. I added it to a keybinding in icewm and got:
# Toggle Window decorations On/Off key "Super+x" /bin/bash -c "if icesh -f motif | grep -q 'decor:$'; then icesh -f motif decor 'All'; else icesh -f motif decor ''; fi"antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.Thank you Xecure.
I will try this…
How do you close windows without titlebar? I think the common ‘X’ in top right is also gone? ILive antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parametersblur13
Alt+F4 is the default keybinding for closing a window, but you can change that. Once you become proficient with keybindings you realize that things like “titlebar” and “task bar” are just fluff that take up valuable screen real estate.
Alt+F4 is the default keybinding for closing a window, but you can change that. Once you become proficient with keybindings you realize that things like “titlebar” and “task bar” are just fluff that take up valuable screen real estate.
Agree and Thanks…
I actually forgot about Alt_F4…Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parametersblur13
Hi Xecure!
Thanks a lot for the help, it works perfectly. Before I read your post I did try setting TitleBarHeight=0 in the ~/.icewm/preferences file, but that did not work. Why does it have to be in the prefoverride file? A bit counterintuitive, at least to me, since I thought that the preferences in the home folder already did override the global settings. Or what preferences does the prefoverride file override, exactly?
As a sidenote, how do you know all this? Searching the internet yielded nothing even close to your solution. I’m impressed, is what I guess I’m saying.
BobC
If I might suggest… Did you try Alt+F11?
You can right click the titlebar when its there… Or right click the taskbar when its not… Fullscreen doesn’t have the titlebar.
prefoverride would usually go in the same folder as the rest of your icewm configuration files in $HOME/.icewm and is used for overrides to your normal configuration.
I have a keyboard map for IceWM, (but its tweaked to include my personal map changes). Skidoo helped me come up with a Zim based mini-help system, which I use, but there wasn’t much interest for it. The first pic shows my prefoverride file, and the second the top page of my IceWM keyboard help file. For more info on IceWM, try the IceWM manual and FAQ (on the help menu), or browse the links, or look at their github site.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by BobC.
blur13
Hi BobC,
Thanks for your suggestion and input! Full screen works great with one window (obviously), and using “maximize vertically” allows two windows side by side with no title bar. Its when you go beyond that, eg having a grid of windows, that the title bars get in the way. By the way, thanks for the “Wingrid” keybindings. I use them every day!
Xecure
Why does it have to be in the prefoverride file?
If I am not mistaken, prefoverride overrides theme preferences, so any thing that is defined by a theme will be replaced by the prefoverride configuration.
Example: if you prefer window-control buttons on the left, like on MacOS, then you will always have them there no matter the theme you use if you set it up in prefoverride.Or what preferences does the prefoverride file override, exactly?
I am no icewm expert, but on reading many topics by BobC I understood (or want to believe it is so) that preferences are related to icewm general options (if there is a toolbar, how icewm in general works, etc.). To keep some theme configurations the same (like using the same fonts or toolbar height), prefoverride was created.
(All this is speculation, so don’t quote me on the above).As a sidenote, how do you know all this?
BobC and Moddit are to blame. Though I don’t use icewm myself, I have read too many of their topics and tried to help out when I could. The man pages for icewm are veeeery long, and options are very well documented there, but it gets so long you can easily miss out on the exact piece of text you need.
antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.Here is the whole IceWM Keyboard help file that I made. You could check it against the keyboard and preferences files to find/remove any of my additions I left in by mistake.
PS: prefoverride is where you put settings that will override preferences or themes settings
IceWM-Keyboard
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Ctrl+Esc Main Menu
Alt+Tab Switch Next Window Select
Alt+Shift+Tab Switch Previous Window Select
Alt+Esc Next Window
Alt+Shift+Esc Prev Window
Alt+Space Window Menu
Shift+Esc Window Properties
Ctrl+Space App-Select
Alt+Ctrl+Esc Window List
Alt+Ctrl+Space Address Bar (command entry)Alt+Shift+F1 Raise Window
Alt+F2 Run Program in New Window
Alt+F3 Lower Window
Alt+F4 Close App and Window
Alt+F5 Restore Window
Alt+F6 Next Window
Alt+Shift+F6 Previous Window
Alt+F7 Move Window
Alt+F8 Resize Window
Alt+F9 Minimize Window
Alt+F10 Maximize Window
Alt+F11 Fullscreen toggle
Alt+F12 RollUp/Down WindowCtrl+Shift+a Arrange Windows
Ctrl+Shift+u Undo ArrangeAlt+Shift+F2 Tile Windows Vertical
Alt+Shift+F3 Tile Windows Horizontal
Alt+Shift+F4 Cascade Windows
Alt+Shift+F5 Arrange Windows
Alt+Shift+F7 Undo Arrange
Alt+Shift+F8 Arrange Icons
Alt+Shift+F9 Minimize All Windows
Alt+Shift+F11 Hide All Windows
Alt+Shift+F12 Hide Window# Standard Programs
Alt+Ctrl+t Terminal# Wingrid on Number row – resize and move window to quadrant or half screen sized window
Alt+Ctrl+1 Left
Alt+Ctrl+2 Right
Alt+Ctrl+3 Top
Alt+Ctrl+4 Bottom
Alt+Ctrl+5 Top Left
Alt+Ctrl+6 Top Right
Alt+Ctrl+7 Bottom Left
Alt+Ctrl+8 Bottom Right
Alt+Ctrl+9 Maximize
Alt+Ctrl+0 Close
Alt+Ctrl+minus Shrink
Alt+Ctrl+equal Grow
Alt+Ctrl+plus Grow
Alt+Ctrl+grave Center# Wingrid on Ctrl+ Numeric Keypad rose
Ctrl+Shift+KP_Left Left
Ctrl+Shift+KP_Right Right
Ctrl+Shift+KP_Up Top
Ctrl+Shift+KP_Down Bottom
Ctrl+Shift+KP_Home Top Left
Ctrl+Shift+KP_Prior Top Right
Ctrl+Shift+KP_End Bottom Left
Ctrl+Shift+KP_Next Bottom Right
Ctrl+Shift+KP_Insert Maximize
Ctrl+Shift+KP_Begin Center
Ctrl+Shift+KP_Delete Close
Ctrl+Shift+KP_Add Grow
Ctrl+Shift+KP_Subtract Shrink# WinArrange on Numeric Keypad Rose
Alt+Ctrl+KP_Left Move window to Left
Alt+Ctrl+KP_Right Move window to Right
Alt+Ctrl+KP_Up Move window Top
Alt+Ctrl+KP_Down Move window to Bottom
Alt+Ctrl+KP_Home Move window to Top Left
Alt+Ctrl+KP_Prior Move window Top Right
Alt+Ctrl+KP_End Move window to Bottom Left
Alt+Ctrl+KP_Next Move window to Bottom Right
Alt+Ctrlq+KP_Begin Center window# Sound Volume
Alt+Ctrl+KP_Divide Lower volume
Alt+Ctrl+KP_Multiply Raise volume
Alt+Ctrl+KP_Insert Mute on/offAlt+Ctrl+Down Collapse TaskBar
Alt+Ctrl+v Maximize Window Vertical
Alt+Ctrl+h Maximize Window HorizontalAlt+Ctrl+Left Switch to Previous Workspace
Alt+Ctrl+Right Switch to Next Workspace
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+Left Take Window to Previous Workspace
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+Right Take Window to Next Workspace
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+Down Take Window to Last WorkspaceAlt+1 Switch to Workspace 1
Alt+2 Switch to Workspace 2
Alt+3 Switch to Workspace 3
Alt+4 Switch to Workspace 4
Alt+5 Switch to Workspace 5
Alt+6 Switch to Workspace 6
Alt+7 Switch to Workspace 7
Alt+8 Switch to Workspace 8
Alt+9 Switch to Workspace 9
Alt+0 Switch to Workspace 10
Alt+bracketleft Switch to Workspace 11
Alt+bracketright Switch to Workspace 12Alt+Ctrl+Shift+1 Take Window to Workspace 1
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+2 Take Window to Workspace 2
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+3 Take Window to Workspace 3
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+4 Take Window to Workspace 4
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+5 Take Window to Workspace 5
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+6 Take Window to Workspace 6
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+7 Take Window to Workspace 7
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+8 Take Window to Workspace 8
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+9 Take Window to Workspace 9
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+0 Take Window to Workspace 10
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+bracketleft Take Window to Workspace 11
Alt+Ctrl+Shift+bracketright Take Window to Workspace 12Ctrl-Shift-KP Left Move to Prev
Ctrl-Shift-KP Right Move to Next
Ctrl-Alt-1/2 Goto Workspace Number
Ctrl-Alt-Arrow Prev/Next WorkspaceCtrl-Shift-i Arrange Icons
Ctrl-Alt-d Show Desktop toggleAlt+grave Switch Class
Alt+Ctrl+Del System Dialog# Unassigned
#DISABLED#Ctrl-Shift-c Cascade Windows
#DISABLED#Ctrl-Shift-h Tile Windows Horizontal
#DISABLED#Ctrl-Shift-v Tile Windows Vertical
### SysWorkspaceLast=
# WinOccupyAll=Alt+F2
# TaskBarSwitchNext=
# Switch to the previous window in the Task Bar
# TaskBarSwitchPrev=
# Move the Task Bar button of the current window right
# TaskBarMoveNext=
# Move the Task Bar button of the current window left
# TaskBarMovePrev=
SysWorkspaceLast=
SysCollapseTaskBar=- This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by BobC.
Hi BobC, thanks for the detailed key help, I will make a desk copy but have little hope that users will
learn any of it.I despair that they still use the mouse for everything and think I do magic with the basic mark copy cut paste delete
commands, Claws mail filtering setup is from harry the plotter or star wars 5..Maybe now with the move to university they will start to appreciate more efficient methods.
Lot still writing on an iPad with a plastik thingy !, get text recognised or often garbage produced, reads like vogon 6.
These are the creme of the German school system, one the student of the year from a major school, all are expected to be computer
literate but either too lazy or think the future belongs to sales promoting voice to text (er garbage gobbledegook) and other madness.Really like MontyPython when several kids all try to speak to an iplod in a s,mall room, get mad and frustrated. Maybe one day they will
discover effiency, see somebody touchtyping with Tex.That leaves me to search for a linux version of an application I used on Atari ST, made tex easy enough for even me to use it :-). I think
it was called LyX.@ blur13 there is a wealth of useful tweaks and setup info in some of the Icewm setup threads.
BobC, PPC and others gave a great del of help, information and scripts for which I am very thankful,
even inspired me to script a few onerous tasks like cleaning up firefox after every update.When I start with a naked setup it feels like something from a past era. Like BobC I rarely use menus,
just task bar starters. Have experimented with keycodes to start the applications which I do not autostart
on standard desktops. By the time user x has cly clicky opened claws my mail is on the desktop 1 filtered
and ready for attention.Efficient setup must not be limited to ICE, there is also a wealth of info for other desktops in past threads.
Some very good tools too. I just got my old head around one desktop and found it so good for use case that every
time I try other options I find it gets the job done well enough to stay.
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