[Solved] Install issue in old laptop with IDE to Msata SSD Adapter

[Member Irina060]

Edited: Helpers please note Poster provided incomplete/misleading information.

Unknown IDE to MSATA converter in use with Unknown MSATA disk. In a device designed and BIOS programmed before such was even conceived on a P3.
Poster points to issue with antiX 21, but is using an extremely unusual and untested hardware combination .
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Hi, I’m new to the forum. I’m using a pentium 3 900mhz 512mb ram laptop with 8mb vram (ati rage mobility m1). I tried to install antix 21 but the install menu does not pop up, the screen only displays “press F1 for help” and nothing else. Mayus key light is not responding, hdd light not doing anything (I have an ssd actually) and no dvd sounds. I tried Full and base with dvds. Im adding a picture for reference.

I’m not new to antix (I am to the forum), I installed antix 19 on a Pentium 3 500mhz 128mb ram 8mb vram laptop before. Is antix 21 no longer compatible with pentium 3s? I’ll try with plop boot manager, should I try core and net version?

I’m doing a multiboot with windows xp and 7. Idk if that is causing anu issues (I dont think it should). Any ideas on what’s going on? Thanks 🙂

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[Member Irina060]

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Update: Plop boot manager doesn’t work.

Ps: Idk how to upload a picture. Let me try again

[Member PPC]

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Irina060 wrote:

the screen only displays “press F1 for help”

Please check if the iso file is corrupted.
It can also be a video problem – please try alternative antiX “via” isos. linked to in the forum (https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/remasterizacao-do-antix-21-completo-de-32-e-64-bits-com-o-kernel-4-4-0-296/ )

Irina060 wrote:

I’ll try with plop boot manager, should I try core and net version?

I think it should make no difference at all, if the Full version does not boot, probably no other version will boot, but there’s no harm in trying…

Irina060 wrote:

I’m doing a multiboot with windows xp and 7. Idk if that is causing anu issues (I dont think it should).

I think you are correct on this assumption.

P.

[Member Irina060]

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Hi, thanks for the fast reply. I tested in a virtual machine and it works just fine both Full and Base.
I tried the alternative 4.4.0 kernel iso in the pentium 3 with same result. But this works in the virtual machine.

I’m not sure why it doesnt want to work. Is antix still compatible with SSE only machines?

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Is the laptop not capable to boot from usb ? This is what I would try next.How did you try plop ? Try to upload png for the pictures.

[Member Irina060]

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The laptop is not capable of booting with usb by default. I used plop boot manager to try that and although it did boot with usb the result was the same. Only the “press F1 for help”. I also used plop->usb for the 4.4.0 kernel iso with same result. I will keep using this method if I can because it is more convinient than burning dvds.
I burned plop into a dvd and let me boot to usb.
I dont really know why I cant upload images tho Im trying but I always seem to have an upload error. I’ll try again now.

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What happens if you press F1 ? Somehow this sounds to me as if it might is the laptop (bios or some setting) and not the antix live dvd where the problem lies.Ok you said plop does boot.

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[Member Irina060]

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Nothing happens if I press F1. When the boot process reaches that point it freezes completly.
Well yes it has to be the laptop, all the isos work in a virtual machine. But I thought antix was meant for old systems like mine, a pentium 3 (900mhz). And antix 19 worked fine in a pentium 3 (500mhz). Does antix work in other pentium 3s?

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At least it has been reported here, I don’t own a pentium 3, though.
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/antix-21-grup-yorum-released/page/4/#post-70540

[Member Irina060]

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I see. Uhm… it makes me even more curious now of why it doesnt want to work with mine. Do you think I can maybe use another computer, make a frugal install on another usb stick and then boot from that usb and make a full install in the pentium 3?

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I have an old 32-bit mini-tower that acts exactly like that. Plop will not work, and no ISO on a CD that’s larger than 700mb will work (both antiX base and full are too large). If you try a core install or a net install it might work, because those are much smaller ISO size. You might need to burn it to a CD instead of a DVD. I’d personally try net (if you can get networking working), as I sometimes have trouble remembering how to build a core antiX install back up to a full installation. If I recall correctly, a net install will do the work for you.

[Member Irina060]

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The usb stick with antix + plop is working fine! I booted to antix 21 from the usb. But now I have to figure out how to install antix from an already installed copy (I fully installed antix in an usb stick). If someone knows how to do thay I’d appreciate it.
But if this method doesnt work I’ll try net. I dont how net works but I bet some google can help with that

This is going somewhere 🙂

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Hello Irina060.

Welcome to antiX Linux and the forum.

I don’t know how to write in English and I send my texts translated by the internet translator. I hope you can understand everything, if your native language is not English, please translate my original Brazilian Portuguese text directly into your language with the help of internet translators.

Regardless of your level of knowledge about GNU/Linux, I recommend you read these excellent tutorials created by @PPC:

What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.

When you start any topic or participate with any post, remember to check the option “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, by checking this option you will receive a message in your email inbox whenever there are replies to the topic in question.

After the basic instructions, I’ll try to help you with what little I know.

Your “pentium 3 900mhz 512mb ram” doesn’t seem to be a problem for antiX 21 to work, the oldest technology I have contact that has antiX installed and running are 32bit Pentium 4 and Celeron. But, you didn’t respond to the information that was requested, which makes it even more difficult for any normal human being to be able to help you.

1 – We need you to return with the information that was requested in this topic.

2 – Try to identify the brand and model of your laptop and let us know, eventually we will find your laptop manual on the internet.

3 – We need to identify the brand and model of your laptop’s graphics card. If it’s SIS or Via, certainly the 32-bit ISO Remastering antiX 21 Full 32-bit and 64-bit with Kernel 4.4.0-296 will work.

4 – Have you downloaded the 32-bit ISOs and checked the md5? The 64bit ISO will not work on your Pentium 3.

5 – As far as I can remember, the 64bit ISO has the first menu with the F1 option that is of help, in addition to the menus where you can choose between the “Use Legacy Kernel” or “Use Modern Kernel”, if it is this one screen you saw, so you downloaded 64bit ISOs and it won’t work on your “pentium 3 900mhz 512mb ram”.

6 – The 32-bit and 64-bit ISO from Remaster of antiX 21 Full 32-bit and 64-bit with Kernel 4.4.0-296 do not have the “Use” options Legacy Kernel” or “Use Modern Kernel”.

7 – Access your laptop’s BIOS and check if there is an option that blocks the boot of other operating systems other than Windows, the text should look similar to this “Secure Boot Option” and it should be “Disabled”.

I can’t imagine what it can be apart from these 7 items left to be analyzed.

marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese language)

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Olá violet_spark.

Seja bem-vindo(a) ao antiX Linux e ao fórum.

Eu não sei escrever em idioma Inglês e envio os meus textos traduzidos pelo tradutor da internet. Eu espero que você consiga compreender tudo, caso o seu idioma nativo não seja o Inglês, por favor, traduza o meu texto original em idioma Português do Brasil diretamente para o seu idioma com a ajuda dos tradutores da internet.

Independentemente do seu nível de conhecimento sobre GNU/Linux, eu recomendo você ler estes excelentes tutoriais criados pelo @PPC:

What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.

Quando você iniciar algum tópico ou participar com alguma postagem, lembre-se de marcar a opção “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, marcando esta opção, você receberá uma mensagem na sua caixa de e-mail sempre que houver respostas do tópico em questão.

Depois das instruções básicas, eu vou tentar te ajudar com o pouco que eu conheço.

O seu “pentium 3 900mhz 512mb ram” não parece ser um problema para o antiX 21 funcionar, a tecnologia mais antiga que eu tenho contato que possui o antiX instalado e em funcionamento são Pentium 4 e Celeron de 32 bits. Mas, você não respondeu as informações que foram solicitadas, o que torna ainda mais difícil para qualquer um ser humano normal poder te ajudar.

1 – Precisamos que você retorne com as informações que foram solicitadas neste tópico.

2 – Tente identificar a marca e o modelo do seu laptop e nos informe, eventualmente encontraremos o manual do seu laptop na internet.

3 – Precisamos identificar a marca e o modelo da placa de vídeo do seu laptop. Se for SIS ou Via, certamente a ISO de 32 bits Remasterização do antiX 21 Full de 32 e 64 bits com o Kernel 4.4.0-296 funcionará.

4 – Você baixou as ISOs de 32 bits e verificou o md5? A ISO de 64 bits não irá funcionar no seu Pentium 3.

5 – Até onde eu me lembro, a ISO de 64 bits possui o primeiro menu com a opção F1 que é de ajuda, além dos menus onde você pode escolher entre o “Use Legacy Kernel” ou “Use Modern Kernel”, se for esta tela que você viu, então você baixou ISOs de 64 bits e não vai funcionar no seu “pentium 3 900mhz 512mb ram”.

6 – A ISO de 32 bits e a de 64 bits da Remasterização do antiX 21 Full de 32 e 64 bits com o Kernel 4.4.0-296 não possuem as opções “Use Legacy Kernel” ou “Use Modern Kernel”.

7 – Acesse o BIOS do seu laptop e verifique se existe uma opção que bloqueia a inicialização de outros sistema operacionais que sejam diferentes do Windows, o texto deve ser semelhante a este “Secure Boot Option” e deve ser “Disabled”.

Eu não consigo imaginar o que pode ser além destes 7 itens que faltam ser analisados.

marcelocripe
(Texto original em idioma Português do Brasil)

[Member Irina060]

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Hi, thanks I will read those tutorials asap. I have checked “Notify me of follow up replies via email” thanks.
Okay I have an Acer Travelmate 529ATXV.
My laptops grafics card is an Ati Rage Mobility M1 with 8mb of vram.
I made sure to download all 32bit iso, pentium 3s only support 32bit.
I have antix running now from a fully installed copy in an usb drive. Maybe I should try a live-install in the usb instead of a full install
BIOS is fine

[Member Irina060]

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Update: I cant find a way to instal antix withing an already installed antix. Neither core nor net work, same “press F1 for help” thing happens where no other thing on the screen will show up and the system will freeze. Still in a virtual machine everythings works flawlessly.

Im considering making a live-usb somehow, maybe I can install antix from within the live-usb

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