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November 10, 2019 at 10:18 pm #29244Member
seaken64
::It’s interesting if you limit yourself to a TUI only. You have to think differently and find new ways of accomplishing your task. For instance, if I don’t have Firefox or SeaMonkey available to me how do I “browse” the internet? How do I look at a picture or video? Is it even possible? It turns out it is possible to do most things without the GUI. But it means using links, or youtube-dl, or fbi, etc. And there are twitter clients, etc. A lot of modern computing can be accomplished on an old computer using a TUI. I find that fascinating!
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November 10, 2019 at 10:22 pm #29245Memberseaken64
::Thank you for the links skidoo. I will check them out. The netsurf looks very interesting. I use that in the GUI but never knew it was also available in TUI. Very cool!
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November 12, 2019 at 6:43 pm #29292Moderator
christophe
::Skidoo & Seaken64,
I liked those links. The framebuffer looks very interesting (if complex) to me. I know links2 -g runs in the framebuffer, so it may be less complex than I was thinking…
Also, ranger is great! It works very nicely in roxterm (in X). (I like how it opened qpdfview when I clicked a pdf file!)
In just console (no X), mc doesn’t like tmux; it runs up both my processor cores to 90% & fills up my root persistence file (logs, I believe). Lots of lag — rendering mc unusable. I thought the cause was tmux at first, but after further testing, I found that mc was the culprit. Which I thought was horrible, because I liked it so much — I have fond memories of running it in “zipslack” way back when (circa 2000)!
But ranger will be a fine, if not better, substitute. Thanks for the suggestion! I have yet to run it much outside of X. But I’m getting used to tmux (and I tested that it doesn’t react like mc does), so I’m very excited about it.
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November 12, 2019 at 7:28 pm #29294Moderator
christophe
::An update: I’m posting this from links2 via antiX 19 core without X. Having lots of fun exploring what can be done here — even without adding X!
tmux (installed by default, it seems) & “ranger” file manager are a must, IMO.
Incidently, does anyone know of a good cli pdf viewer, so I can read my books from “naked” core?
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November 12, 2019 at 9:07 pm #29295Moderator
christophe
::Regarding pdf files, it seems I needed a work-around. I found these instructions on the net: I installed poppler-utils & opened a pdf file in ranger with “pdftotext”. It copied the pdf to a text file; then selecting the new file, ranger opened it in nano. It looks just fine. I could use “pdftohtml” & view in a browser, but I haven’t tried that yet.
I’ll just have to manually keep my place somehow, I think, though (with either method).But if it were TOO easy, would it be as fun? (Maybe. But I guess I’ll never know.) đ
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November 13, 2019 at 7:35 pm #29334Anonymous
::christophe, below are my up-n-running working notes for a true “viewer” that I successfully tested in antiX 17 a while back. As I recall, you can set bookmarks while viewing a document, but the marks are discarded when the program exits. When viewing a looooong doc across multiple sessions, you could note the page number prior to exit and “touch ~/reminderfilename228” (or something like that, some filename to jog your memory).
FWIW, after the test drive, I just deleted the app and archived the notes. I don’t consume many PDF-formatted docs. Of the few currently on my system, most are sitting as *.pdf.gz and I would probably only ever access ’em (within an Xsession) if they surfaced within recoll search results.
cd /tmp git clone https://github.com/jichu4n/jfbview cd /tmp/jfbview ### retrieve build dependencies (29.8MB) sudo apt install libssl-dev libopenjp2-7-dev libjbig2dec-dev libharfbuzz-dev libncurses5-dev libimlib2-dev libmupdf-dev make ### creates THREE executables: ### ### jfbview </path/to/somefile.pdf> ### ^--- BEAUTIFULLY RENDERED OUTPUT, INCLUDING INLINE IMAGES ### HUGE MEMORY FOOTPRINT (48MB+) EVEN IF WHEN YOU SPECIFY --cache_size=1 ### ### v--- UGLY ~~ ITS WORDWRAPPED OUTPUT OFTEN SPLITS WORDS ACROSS LINES ### jpdfcat </path/to/somefile.pdf> | less ### jpdfcat </path/to/somefile.pdf> 3 8 ### CAN OPTIONALLY SPECIFY A PAGE OR RANGE OF PAGES ### this utility is analagous to "pdftotext" ### ### jpdfgrep </path/to/somefile.pdf> 'my search string' rm *.o ### optional cleanup sudo apt purge libssl-dev libopenjp2-7-dev libjbig2dec-dev libharfbuzz-dev libncurses5-dev libimlib2-dev libmupdf-dev ### NOW SWITCH TO A VIRTUAL TERMINAL AND TEST: sudo updatedb && locate .pdf /tmp/jfbview/jfbview </path/to/somefile.pdf> man -l /tmp/jfbview/jfbview.1- This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by Brian Masinick. Reason: From skidoo
November 13, 2019 at 8:38 pm #29335Moderator
christophe
::Thanks, Skidoo!
Compiling programs is something I’ve shied away from in the past (except once, when you walked me through compiling & testing your 32-bit gexec a while back). But I’m adding this to my list (along with shell scripting). I copied your notes & looked up general knowledge on using github.
(Regarding gexec: I find myself using it nearly every day. I especially like the tick box to keep the dialog box open after running — that’s a nice addition.)
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November 13, 2019 at 10:41 pm #29337Anonymous
::zero github knowledge required, just a prerequisite that I neglected to mention: sudo apt install git
After that, you should be able to copy/paste the steps shown in my notes.February 4, 2022 at 1:43 am #76734Anonymous
::Nov 2019, skidoo said:
you can even run an âX-lessâ web browser ~~ netsurf (debian package ânetsurf-fbâ)
sad news.
As of version 3.10, netsurf-fb (both the debian “bullseye” package, and as found in the upstream project)
apparently requires (declared within the libnsfb MAKEFILE) a wayland session.- This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by Brian Masinick. Reason: From skidoo
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