legacy computer or modern computer question

[Member f23948]

My computer built in 2016, please i would like to know is my computer legacy or modern?

[Member marcelocripe]

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Hello f23948.

Welcome to antiX Linux and the forum.

I don’t know how to write in English and I send my texts translated by the internet translator. I hope you can understand everything, if your native language is not English, please translate my original Brazilian Portuguese text directly into your language with the help of internet translators.

Regardless of your level of knowledge about GNU/Linux, I recommend you read these excellent tutorials created by @PPC:

What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.
How to: correctly use antiX forum.

When I first started using antiX, I read the tutorials that PPC created, these readings saved me a lot of time and I think it saves time for any new antiX user. Your time will not be wasted with these readings, everything will seem to be much easier than you could imagine. You won’t waste your time searching the internet or even creating new topics, on the contrary, you will gain a lot of time with these readings.

I recommend you try out desktops that have “zzz” in their name. I usually use zzz-IceWM or zzz-JWM or zzz-Fluxbox (each of these desktops has its own characteristics and consumes more or less resources), zzzFM will be the default file manager for your desktop, it it is very similar to the other file managers of other GNU/Linux distributions and Windows XP. To access other antiX workspaces, click on Menu, Desktop, Other Desktops and click on the workspace name, instantly the workspace will be loaded.

Whenever you need to ask for help or technical support, post the output of the terminal command $ inxi -Fxz, copy and paste it in the message of the topic you are going to create in this forum.

When you start a topic or participate with a post, remember to check the option “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, by checking this option, you will receive a message in your email box whenever there are replies from topic in question.

My computer built in 2016, please i would like to know is my computer legacy or modern?

Surely the Modern Kernel will work on your computer.

marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese language)

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Olá f23948.

Seja bem-vindo(a) ao antiX Linux e ao fórum.

Eu não sei escrever em idioma Inglês e envio os meus textos traduzidos pelo tradutor da internet. Eu espero que você consiga compreender tudo, caso o seu idioma nativo não seja o Inglês, por favor, traduza o meu texto original em idioma Português do Brasil diretamente para o seu idioma com a ajuda dos tradutores da internet.

Independentemente do seu nível de conhecimento sobre GNU/Linux, eu recomendo você ler estes excelentes tutoriais criados pelo @PPC:

What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.
How to: correctly use antiX forum.

Quando eu comecei a utilizar o antiX, eu li os tutoriais que o PPC criou, estas leituras me pouparam muito do meu tempo e acho que poupa o tempo de qualquer novo usuário do antiX. O seu tempo não será perdido com estas leituras, tudo parecerá ser muito mais fácil do que você poderia imaginar. Você não perderá o seu tempo com pesquisas na internet ou até mesmo em criar novos tópicos, ao contrário, você ganhará muito tempo com estas leituras.

Eu recomendo você experimentar as áreas de trabalho que possuem “zzz” em seu nome. Eu costumo utilizar o zzz-IceWM ou zzz-JWM ou zzz-Fluxbox (cada uma destas áreas de trabalho possuem características próprias e consomem mais ou menos recursos), o zzzFM será o gerenciador de arquivos padrão da sua área de trabalho, ele é muito semelhante aos outros gerenciadores de arquivos das outras distribuições GNU/Linux e do Windows XP. Para acessar as outras áreas de trabalho do antiX, clique no Menu, Área de Trabalho, Alternar Entre as Áreas de Trabalho e clique sobre o nome da área de trabalho, instantaneamente a área de trabalho será carregada.

Sempre que você precisar solicitar ajuda ou suporte técnico, poste o resultado do comando do terminal $ inxi -Fxz, copie e cole aqui na mensagem do tópico que você for criar neste fórum.

Quando você iniciar algum tópico ou participar com alguma postagem, lembre-se de marcar a opção “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, marcando esta opção, você receberá uma mensagem na sua caixa de e-mail sempre que houver respostas do tópico em questão.

My computer built in 2016, please i would like to know is my computer legacy or modern?

Certamente o Kernel Moderno funcionará no seu computador.

marcelocripe
(Texto original em idioma Português do Brasil)

[Member f23948]

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You said “Surely the Modern Kernel will work on your computer.”

Thank you for reply my computer built in 2016 is modern kernel

• This reply was modified 11 months ago by f23948.
• This reply was modified 11 months ago by f23948.

[Forum Admin rokytnji]

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Don’t sweat it. I don’t. Windows 11 and MacOS are the only isos that thinks your computer is legacy.

$ inxi -M
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 755 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> 
           Mobo: Dell model: 0GM819 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Dell v: A11 
           date: 08/04/2008 

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[Member marcelocripe]

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You said “Surely the Modern Kernel will work on your computer.”

Thank you for reply my computer built in 2016 is modern kernel

Remember to read the tutorials I indicated for you.

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You said “Surely the Modern Kernel will work on your computer.”

Thank you for reply my computer built in 2016 is modern kernel

Lembre-se de ler os tutoriais que eu indiquei para você.

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As far as I know there is no uniform definition of what is a legacy computer. there are several ways to think about it. Examples: consider 32bits devices as legacy, or single core devices as legacy, or devices without UEFI as legacy… etc..

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f23948 wrote:

My computer built in 2016, please i would like to know is my computer legacy or modern?

You could group computers into legacy / modern by measuring the average spec of a computer used in countries by capita level.

Zimbabwae, in Africa, has a low GDP per capita. Computer users from this region of the world are still buying & using refurbished Core2Duo machines, which cost between $150-$300, which is around 1-2 months wages. Core2Duo’s where the early 64 bit machines, but by rich western country privileges, they are considered legacy.

I would say a Core2Duo machine is the middle ground, but by no means are these machines poor in quality. I had a Intel Yorkfield Q8300 Core Quad for 10 years and I haven’t really noticed any speed increases with the modern Ryzens or I5’s. In gaming you can notice some differences but for normal everyday stuff … no difference.

So back to your question, is a 2016 machine legacy? No its very modern.

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f23948 wrote:

My computer built in 2016, please i would like to know is my computer legacy or modern?

Im running Antix 21 full iso on a 10 watt TDP 2013 Pentium ATOM. Works great off Solar Panels.

$ inxi
CPU: Quad Core Intel Pentium J2900 (-MCP-) speed/min/max: 2348/1333/2666 MHz
Kernel: 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 Up: 48m
Mem: 1178.1/7839.4 MiB (15.0%) Storage: 931.51 GiB (7.5% used) Procs: 154
Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.06

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My youngest computer apart from a raspi 3B is 12 years old. Plenty powerful.
Core 2 Duo is fine for everyday tasks when given enough memory.

Forget industry telling everything should be replaced every two years. If it
is up to a task it is good enough.

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ModdIt wrote:

My youngest computer apart from a raspi 3B is 12 years old. Plenty powerful.
Core 2 Duo is fine for everyday tasks when given enough memory.

Forget industry telling everything should be replaced every two years. If it
is up to a task it is good enough.

I agree; I have a couple of old Hewlett Packard systems (one desktop and one laptop), plus an old Lenovo Thinkpad (which was actually sold by IBM so IBM could focus energies on other things and get some “capital” for their ongoing projects). All three of those systems are quite suitable for antiX.

Ironically enough it’s my newest system that is the first one that doesn’t work well with antiX. I did get antiX 21 runit Full to be recognized from a USB; the problem for me is that it recognizes only the Ethernet device, not the Wifi device, so on that one system, an Acer Aspire 5 Model A515-55, I run other distributions; there the siduction distribution, a Debian-based distribution, is superb.

Today, I’m here with my Dell Inspiron 5558; it runs antiX REALLY well.

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The menu entry re legacy v modern refers to the kernel not the hardware.

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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anticapitalista wrote:

The menu entry re legacy v modern refers to the kernel not the hardware.

Thanks anti! Several of us apparently ignored that specific question.

For those who aren’t familiar, there are a few changes in the specific hardware systems that the kernel supports.
I’m not 100% positive when the exact changes took place, but over the past few years some long term support was removed for super old devices, so it definitely makes a difference, and that is one reason why we support multiple kernels.

Most of my systems run fine with either kernel, but in a few of my recent tests, I’ve actually found a few cases where the 4.9 kernel is just perfect for my oldest systems, whereas the newer kernels are better in terms of capabilities and maximum performance on systems that are five years old or newer, and a few of the very newest systems are ONLY supported by the absolute newest, cutting edge kernels.

My current group of systems covers that range of systems much better than what I had before; in one case, the 4.9 is best; I even had a few problems with 5.10 or newer kernels. Then I have one system that’s quite picky; it runs great on the newest stuff, but it’s the first system I’ve had in 15+ years that’s had any difficulty; I attribute that to the ever increasing size of the Linux kernel and the separation of features between older, repeatedly patched kernels to support aged hardware and the updated support for newer systems. It’s difficult to support so much hardware; at least it is easier now to understand why so many proprietary operating systems become a huge mass of difficult to support systems.

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