[SOLVED]: Live USB Maker Control Center (gui) Defaults to “dd”

[Member rej]

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When making a live-USB from antiX CC, with antiX or MX snapshot, it consistently defaults to “dd” and not “full featured” – is there a way to set it at full-featured mode automatically?

Thanks.

• This topic was modified 2 months, 3 weeks ago by Brian Masinick. Reason: [SOLVED]

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full-featured mode works ONLY for antiX and MX Linux because the tool is native to those infrastructures and they support the additional capabilities.
Other distributions can be written read only using dd.

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Brian, he said he is starting with an antiX or MX snapshot…

Hi rej,

You are using the Live-USB Maker tool from the antiX Control-Centre, yes?

Perhaps there is a problem with the snapshot, so the Live-USB-Maker tool doesn’t recognize the iso as an antiX or MX one?

What version of antiX are you using?

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stevesr0 wrote:

Brian, he said he is starting with an antiX or MX snapshot…

Hi rej,

You are using the Live-USB Maker tool from the antiX Control-Centre, yes?

Perhaps there is a problem with the snapshot, so the Live-USB-Maker tool doesn’t recognize the iso as an antiX or MX one?

What version of antiX are you using?

stevesr0

What I said I believe is accurate. You can create a live-USB using Live USB Maker, but it has to be a regular ISO image for MX Linux or antiX in order to utilize the Full Feature; if I am mistaken and the Full Feature is intended to work with a snapshot, then there is a regression in the capability.

Any other type of image will use dd.

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I just downloaded MX Linux 21.3_ahs_x64.iso.
When I ran Live USB Maker, the FIRST option for me was Full Featured Mode, as expected.
(antiX version of Live USB Maker in antiX 22).

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Of course if the snapshot image is defective, then it won’t operate correctly, even if it can be written in another form.

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I’m using the MX Linux 21.3_ahs_x64.iso USB image live that I created with the Full Featured Mode; working as expected and it was also the default selection as noted earlier. IF I happen to do a snapshot, I’ll try that to investigate that behavior.

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Check out this link at MX Linux –
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?p=683218#p683218
At least it’s able to build a USB from a snapshot!
(Command line version)

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This is from the Help Files of MX

“Full-featured mode is available for users of antiX/MX family systems, including snapshots. This mode enables all the live system features, including peristence and other features requiring writable media to function (save options, etc…).”

https://mxlinux.org/wiki/help-files/help-mx-live-usb-maker/

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In that case we may have a defect.

Full-featured mode is available for users of antiX/MX family systems, including snapshots. This mode enables all the live system features, including peristence and other features requiring writable media to function (save options, etc…).

The user reported being unable to create a full featured mode – at least not by default.

So to determine if there is a problem or not we need a snapshot, then a Live USB Maker test to determine the functionality.

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[Member rej]

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Thank you for the replies

AntiX CC defaults to “dd”, while the same snapshot and same USB stick, in MX21 “MX Tools” defaults to “Full-featured”.

Edit:
Forgot to mention – MX and antiX that I am using are on the same computer. This occurs with every USB stick and every snapshot that I have used. I always check the mode now, and maybe there is no answer. Just thought it might be a simple edit or change of setting.

Thanks again.

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I’m writing a snapshot image with Live USB Maker. I started my instance from the menu — antiX — Live USB Maker.

Previously I created an antiX, then an MX Linux instance. Both defaulted to the Full-featured mode.

Now I just created a snapshot image the same way and it allows me to snapshot my antiX images and then image them by default with Full-featured mode.

Are you starting from a different starting point that I haven’t tested?

Otherwise I am finding that the expected behavior continues to work.

Help me understand what’s different and also try it the way I did and see if there is a different result, OK?

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[Member rej]

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Hi Brian-

Thanks for your help.

When creating the snapshot it has the option to change the name of the file, and I just recently started using that feature, not realizing, that when the name is changed, it probably no longer recognizes the snapshot as “MX” or “antiX” and goes to “dd” automatically.

I had not connected the two until today.

Thank you for taking the time to do the tests and provide feedback – I appreciate it!

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rej wrote:

Hi Brian-

Thanks for your help.

When creating the snapshot it has the option to change the name of the file, and I just recently started using that feature, not realizing, that when the name is changed, it probably no longer recognizes the snapshot as “MX” or “antiX” and goes to “dd” automatically.

I had not connected the two until today.

Thank you for taking the time to do the tests and provide feedback – I appreciate it!

So did that effectively solve your issue? What I’ve consistently seen is that I can always create either antiX or MX Linux images using the Live USB Maker tool and it recognizes images from these two distributions, but given your discovery about the names, I suspect there is something in the code that examines whether or not a Full-featured mode is selected – and apparently the choice is based on the “distribution-provided” identifiers; I did not know that, but the other reason is that the built-in, recognized capabilities are in those two distributions. While there may be other distributions capable of certain features beyond what dd offers, there’s no way to ensure that, hence the reason why other named distributions are copied with dd, which is simply a byte for byte copying tool.

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[Member rej]

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Hi Brian-

Yes – it is resolved – it was past the time for the option of being able to edit the post as such.

Knowing why it was happening and not inadvertently using “dd” was all I wanted.

If you are able to mark it “Solved”, please do.

Thanks again for your help and the explanation.

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