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July 21, 2022 at 7:48 am #86361Member
Peter Linu
::BobC,
The reason that I settled on antiX for my Live-USB is that the forum seems to be friendly and helpful. I have been running Mint for about 3 years and their forum is full of accessible, knowledgeable and pleasant people. They certainly don’t get angry nor unhelpful when faced with a ‘noob’ like me. Rather, if they can’t fix/explain they send me to a link. Those 3 things make Mint the best OS I have so far experienced.As I see it, the few manuals available here are NOT helpful to us noobs. If you would like to attract people other than IT experts then manual revision is where you need to start.
The Russian F1 help is merely an example.Live-USB = zzz-IceWM-antiX21-runit-64-base: static persistence
VirtualBox= zzz-IceWM-antiX21-runit-64-baseJuly 21, 2022 at 11:51 am #86368MemberModdIt
::About 2 years ago I came to antiX, I found it very easy to cope with it is after all a debian variant.
Manpages are available for pretty much every application. I was not and still am not an IT expert.
Support, Videos and documentation is for a distro with such a small team excellent.If you think the manuals are not helpful to the kind of noob you consider yourself to be you are surely
welcome to submit detailed useful improvements.Remember the antix dev, translation and documentation team is very small, the number of active helpers on
the forum too.NONE ARE PAID for the time they donate. Many including myself send financial help when possible and are very
grateful for the distro which is at least up with the best of the best.One reason moddit very rarely posts anymore is frustration (more anger) with some users flooding the forum
with any help demand they can think of rather than helping themselves and others.My friendly and helpful reminder, Your opinion is mint is ther better option, use it.
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July 21, 2022 at 12:04 pm #86370Member
Peter Linu
::Moddit,
As far as I’m aware Mint does not have a Live-USB option. That’s why I am here.Live-USB = zzz-IceWM-antiX21-runit-64-base: static persistence
VirtualBox= zzz-IceWM-antiX21-runit-64-baseJuly 21, 2022 at 12:34 pm #86371Member
marcelocripe
::As far as I’m aware Mint does not have a Live-USB option. That’s why I am here.
So, consider starting to read the various tutorials that other people and I have pointed you to. If there are tutorials, it’s because someone took the time to create the text, but you probably insist on not reading these tutorials.
Most of your questions have already been taught here on the forum and you keep repeating them all and that’s a fact. Sooner or later, the few antiX volunteers will get exhausted and will soon get tired of helping people here on this forum. Or even worse, you might run out of answers in the threads you create, one after the other. Pay attention to ModdIt’s advice, his experience and teachings are always extremely helpful.https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/w/index.php?search=liveusb&title=Special%3ASearch&wprov=acrw1
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As far as I’m aware Mint does not have a Live-USB option. That’s why I am here.
Então, considere começar a ler os diversos tutoriais que as outras pessoas e eu te indicaram. Se existem os tutoriais, é porque alguém dedicou o seu tempo para criar o texto, mas provavelmente você insiste em não ler estes tutoriais.
A maioria das suas perguntas já foram ensinadas aqui no fórum e você continua repetindo todas elas e isso é um fato. Cedo ou tarde, os poucos voluntários do antiX ficarão exaustos e logo se cansarão de ajudar as pessoas aqui neste fórum. Ou ainda pior, você poderá ficar sem respostas nos tópicos que você cria, um após do outro. Preste atenção nos conselhos do ModdIt, a sua experiência e ensinamentos são sempre extremamente úteis.https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/w/index.php?search=liveusb&title=Special%3ASearch&wprov=acrw1
July 21, 2022 at 12:50 pm #86372Member
marcelocripe
::Also at boot, I click on F1 (help) and it’s in Russian!
Press the F2 key first and select your language, surely the help texts of the F1 key will be in your language. If it is not translated into your language, please consider joining the antiX volunteer translator team.
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Also at boot, I click on F1 (help) and it’s in Russian!
Pressione antes a tecla F2 e selecione o seu idioma, certamente os textos da ajuda da tecla F1 estarão em seu idioma. Caso não esteja traduzido para o seu idioma, considere fazer parte da equipe de tradutores voluntários do antiX.
July 21, 2022 at 2:30 pm #86374ModeratorBobC
::Peter, You need to do more of the analysis on what you have and are trying to do (which you never posted), research (including searching, reading, watching videos), experimentation (including making notes on steps followed and results), and then once you find a way to get what you want out of it, you need to test it thoroughly to make sure it meets your needs above and works properly.
When you are done, help the next guy by making a video showing what you were trying to do and how to do it for the next newbie to find and follow.
It seems like you are giving us pieces of the problems, and then wanting us to figure it all out for you, then posting infinitely more questions or problems. I’m just saying you need to do more of the legwork yourself.
For example, telling us after pages of “stuff” that the F1 screen comes up in Russian, after not telling us what you did to get there isn’t going to help.
Not trying to be mean, just be considerate of the burdens you ask others to carry for you, and remember to give back in a usable form for the next newbie so we don’t answer similar questions again…
July 21, 2022 at 5:27 pm #86376Member
iznit
::I changed to ‘persistence_all’ however once at desktop, the conky still shows ‘persist root enabled’.
Here, I’m boggled by reading “still” [[[still shows…..]]] because the last I read stated you were using home [[[static, home only]]] persistence. The “root persistence enabled” conky text was not displayed in THAT scenario, was it? If it was, man that would be a bug.
If choosing “persistence_all” does yield a conky text stating “persist root enabled”, maybe seasoned antiX users have learned to expect this, this inexact labeling mismatch. I don’t have an unused pendrive in front of me right now, and won’t test that “_all” recipe or any other “static” recipe because this USB is so daggone slow.
Along the way, I had some confusion because some of the docs have “persist root” but elsewhere on a different page it will use “root persist” to describe the exact same recipe. This imperfect documentation and inconsistent labeling does invite confusion.
Furthermore I then go to ‘Remaster/Personal’ and get ‘Error: Have 429Mb available Need 1420’.
Multiple reasons could have led you to this eventuality. I won’t hope to guess which one, and trying to explain what to [[maybe]] do about it would probably further confuse and//or frustrate you.
July 21, 2022 at 5:28 pm #86377Member
iznit
::What persistence do you use?
Me? Well, not knowing what your goal//intent is, I didn’t want to say, didn’t want to bias or influence you. But it’s a good question, an important question so I’ll explain that several people here in shop use this pc throughout the day. It serves up a music jukebox, a browser to search online for tech answers….. sometimes we’ll sit and watch videos together if a couple people are luncing at the same time. All this would not be easily possible if each person had to login logout each time they wanted to use the computer for something, so I set it to autologin and anyone can boot the pc in the morning….. and if something in the system gets stuffed up, anyone can just reboot to clear it.
So, daily, zero persistence, none. If I boot with the intention of installing updates….. after installing a batch of updates, I will remaster. So on this pc I really don’t “need” persistence at all. On my home pcs, I choose persist_root, and probably enable the toram option so that I don’t have to drum my fingers waiting for writes to the slow USB [[[some of the pcs do not have USB3]]].
Your choice of persistence t ype needs to fit what you, in your use scenario, are wanting to accomplish. Maybe you ultimately don’t really “need” persistence, period, and are just tinkering to see what’s possible. From waht you’ve mentioned, this [[[just tinkering]]] seems to be the case, that’s fine but be prepared to experiment and to break a few eggs, requiring reinstall, on the way to perfecting your omelette.
July 21, 2022 at 11:38 pm #86379Memberolsztyn
::As far as I’m aware Mint does not have a Live-USB option. That’s why I am here.
This is a great reason to be in antiX domain! This is a unique (in addition to MX) Linux OS, which has a top of the line Live implementation. So do not discouraged when it takes a bit of time to fully understand these terms and options. I am running antiX exclusively Live and Frugal myself, no persistence of any kind…
What I would suggest, start simple:
– On your Live USB do not set any persistence, at least initially. Configure the look and feel and install programs you want.
– If you like the way it looks and works then remaster to make it permanent.
– If you are not satisfied with your changes then just reboot. Your Live antiX will return to the state you started with.
– If you want to save some data from your session before you reboot, put it in Live-USB-Storage on your USB.This way you build your perfect antiX configuration.
This is about how I am running.Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_ParametersJuly 21, 2022 at 11:52 pm #86380Membercalciumsodium
::… break a few eggs … on the way to perfecting your omelette.
What a great quote! I must have broken antiX a hundred times while I was learning how to use it. I started using linux only two years ago. My first linux distribution is antiX. So you don’t need to be an IT guy to use antiX. If I can do it, then many people can. For me, the best way to learn to use antiX is to be an alpha or beta tester. I don’t know how to program, but I can contribute by testing.
July 22, 2022 at 1:13 am #86381Moderator
christophe
::“persist_all” = dynamic persistence for root. Root persistence loaded into RAM. Only part may be shown in conky, because, since it loads to RAM, it also needs to share RAM for “regular RAM” purposes. So, here the “root” persistence file (rootfs) saves everything except /home. Home persistence is also used as part of “persist_all” – but the home persistence (homefs) is not kept in RAM, but is written to disk immediately. (The root portion is saved when “save persistence changes” is run.)
“persist_static” = a “saved-to-disk-immediately” version of the above. Saves the rootfs & homefs in separate files. Immediately. Rootfs not loaded into RAM.
“persist_home” = only saves the /home directory & beneath. If you use this (only), then you must remaster prior to a reboot, or you lose any system-wide changes (although home directory changes/additions will be saved). Saves immediately to disk.
“persist_static_root” (or “p_static_root”) = saves ALL changes/additions in ONE file (rootfs), even including /home. No RAM is used (saved to disk immediately).
“persist_root” = dynamic persistence, root-down, including /home. Everything saved to RAM until running “save persistence changes.” No separate home persistence file.
NOTE: When conky says “persist root enabled,” it is telling you that the “/ root” disk usage conky element is your persistence file usage, and is reminding (warning?) you that you have system-wide changes (potentially) being saved. It shows up when you use any type of root persistence, including: persist_static, persist_all, p_static_root, or persist_root (unless you comment that line in the conky out).
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July 22, 2022 at 3:38 am #86387Member
Peter Linu
::Thanx Christophe. Very helpful.
This is an example of what needs to be in the manual.Live-USB = zzz-IceWM-antiX21-runit-64-base: static persistence
VirtualBox= zzz-IceWM-antiX21-runit-64-baseJuly 22, 2022 at 4:31 am #86390Member
Peter Linu
::Boot options.
What is this and how could I change it? I’d be just as happy if you link me to an article.Live-USB = zzz-IceWM-antiX21-runit-64-base: static persistence
VirtualBox= zzz-IceWM-antiX21-runit-64-baseJuly 22, 2022 at 1:12 pm #86398Moderator
christophe
::Boot options are what you set/change when you customize your live-usb through that startup menu.
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July 22, 2022 at 2:52 pm #86405Moderator
caprea
::Please have a look at the antiX FAQ
https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/docs-antiX-19/FAQ/persistence.html
https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/docs-antiX-19/FAQ/boot-params.html
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