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August 20, 2021 at 6:37 am #65247
Anonymous
August 20, 2021 at 5:27 pm #65269Moderator
Brian Masinick
::Just an FYI: While the following link pertains to systems available in the USA, there are probably similar sites in other regions. SEARCH when you are not sure; use Duck Duck Go, Yahoo, or Google. Information can almost always be found from one of those resources, or use “Bing” if you want to use an alternative from the Seattle-based company.
Here is one recommendation regarding systems under $500; you can adjust a search for whatever point you want, and you can look for brand new, slightly used, or very old systems, depending on what is appropriate for you:
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Brian MasinickAugust 20, 2021 at 5:35 pm #65270Moderator
Brian Masinick
::https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-F512JA-AS34-VivoBook-i3-1005G1-Fingerprint/dp/B0869L1326/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&qid=1629480711&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A7817224011%2Cp_n_feature_twelve_browse-bin%3A9521908011&rnid=9521907011&s=pc&sr=1-6 — This one says it comes with Windows 10 S; if that doesn’t scare you, the price (currently $399.99) might be interesting for someone. It might be a system worthwhile scrapping the OS and experimenting with Linux.
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Brian MasinickAugust 20, 2021 at 5:41 pm #65271Moderator
Brian Masinick
::https://makeawebsitehub.com/best-laptops-linux/
https://linuxhint.com/best-linux-laptops/Like anything else, look for what works for you personally.
All I’ve attempted to do here is demonstrate that in a few minutes, it’s possible to find a lot of options.
I’m not recommending or claiming anything, simply that it’s not difficult to search, look around.
Occasionally you may get really fortunate and find a great deal that perfectly suits your personal situation.--
Brian MasinickAugust 20, 2021 at 7:52 pm #65280Moderator
christophe
::@Kjellinux – If your goal is still the same – seeing what runs well on old hardware – using a live USB:
1. boot with that live-cd you made earlier.
2. use antiX to make a live-usb with Live-USB-Maker (under applications > antiX) – choose fully-featured, and use the defaults.
3. Reboot with USB from now on – when you boot, choose persistence option (F5) p_static_root; then choose F8 to save the configuration, so each time it will keep that default until changed.
4. During boot it will ask for a persistence file size – choose something like 3 GB, if using that 16GB stick. It will then offer to make a swap file – go ahead and let it.See how you like that – That’s test #1.
Tell us how it goes…. 😉
- This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by christophe.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by christophe.
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August 20, 2021 at 8:42 pm #65283Moderator
Brian Masinick
August 20, 2021 at 9:21 pm #65285Forum Admin
anticapitalista
::Here I downloaded antiX 19.4 base and used Rufus (as recommended on the antiX home page) to create a bootable USB stick. Much to my disappointment, Rufus also overwrote my preconfigured partitions.
Please post the link where antiX recommends Rufus. I can’t find it. Once found, I’ll remove it.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
August 20, 2021 at 10:16 pm #65289Moderator
Brian Masinick
::We have a “Live USB Maker”; for our distribution, it will allow you to use many of the features that distinguish our distribution; it can also create a Live USB for other distributions using the standard dd utility. We do not recommend other tools, so I agree with anticapitalista. Anything you may have seen regarding Rufus or other tools either were not on this site, or if they have been mentioned, they certainly were NOT an official recommendation. Other tools such as that one can (and apparently DO) things that we do NOT support or endorse in any way.
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Brian MasinickAugust 20, 2021 at 11:19 pm #65294Forum Admin
rokytnji
::Grinning as I see the baton picked up once again. I’ve ran that race. Good luck. It will teach you lots.
Like when I got Guy Dog 5.0.1 linux to work a old 128mb kodak camera sd card.
System: Host: puppypc15741 Kernel: 2.6.39 i686 (32 bit, gcc: 4.4.5) Desktop: Openbox 3.5.0 Distro: Guy Dog Linux Linux 2.6.39 [ arch] Machine: System: Acer (portable) product: Aspire 5534 version: V1.10 Mobo: Acer model: Aspire 5534 version: V1.10 Bios: Acer version: V1.10 date: 08/26/2009 CPU: Dual core AMD Athlon X2 L310 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 svm) bmips: 4788 Clock Speeds: 1: 1197.001 MHz 2: 1197.001 MHz Graphics: Card: ATI RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics] bus-ID: 01:05.0 X.org: 1.7.7 driver: radeon tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root Audio: Card: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: HDA Intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.24 Network: Card-1: Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath9k bus-ID: 02:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 08:00.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Drives: HDD Total Size: 250.2GB (20.3% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MK2555GS size: 250.1GB 2: id: /dev/sdb model: Multi size: 0.1GB Partition: Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured? Info: Processes: 82 Uptime: 2:02 Memory: 343.8/3546.9MB Runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A Client: Shell (sh) inxi: 1.9.16Now. I am just a used to be. Good luck. Mine was a broken heel bone instead of covid. Couch ridden for almost a year. Heel bones take a long time to heel.
Edit: after I learned antiX was hybrid iso. dd was good enough for me to install to usb.
But I have more than one linux box.
I guess for windows- This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by rokytnji.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsAugust 20, 2021 at 11:30 pm #65295Moderator
christophe
::@anticapitalista:
It’s on the download page, and speaks of when a person may only have Windows.Below is a list of mirrors available for downloading the antiX ISO images. These can be written and booted live from a cd,frugal install via hdd, from usb, etc. To make the most of using the antiX live system, particularly from a usb, it is recommended to use the antiX/MX live usb maker or Rufus if using Windows to make the CD. If either of these do not work for you, it is possible to use other image writing tools. Keep in mind that in most cases the way the image writer makes the live usb leaves the live boot media/image read only and therefor cannot make use of all the antiX live usb features.
confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019
August 21, 2021 at 7:50 am #65313Forum Admin
anticapitalista
::Thanks christophe
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
August 21, 2021 at 12:57 pm #65317MemberKjellinux
::@anticapitalista
Please post the link where antiX recommends Rufus. I can’t find it. Once found, I’ll remove it.
Apart from the Download page, it is also in the thread “Step by step guide to install antiX-Base”.
August 21, 2021 at 1:01 pm #65318MemberKjellinux
::@Kjellinux – If your goal is still the same – seeing what runs well on old hardware
That is still my goal and I will definitely try what you suggest.
August 21, 2021 at 1:02 pm #65319Forum Admin
anticapitalista
::Does using Rufus work? I have never tried it and just relied on others’ feedback.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
August 21, 2021 at 1:25 pm #65321MemberKjellinux
::For some reason, unknown to me, this thread took an unexpected detour. I’m not looking to get a new and better computer. I have the computers I need right now. In fact, it is not entirely easy to find harware that is low spec enough to test the lower limits for what can still run a Linux distribution. I can upgrade my test rig, an Acer Aspire 3100 with 512 MB RAM whenever I wish. I already have the RAM modules needed to upgrade to 1, 2 and 4 GB (maximum). I also have a 120 GB SSD waiting. Eventually those uprgrades will be made, but right now, doing so would defeat the purpose of my testing. In fact, I have a machine incoming that’s even older and lower specs.
I managed to solve the swap partition problem. I realised that by reversing the order of things, I could create a bootable USB first (using whatever utility) and after that was finished, I used GParted to shrink the main partition and create a swap partition. Having a swap partition made quite some difference. I’m currently in the process of testing base and full, 32 and 64 bit to see how they perform in comparison with other distributions that I have alredy tested. When I’m done with that, I will start looking into persistence.
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