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  • #41501
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      Fresh install of antiX 19.2,on an old inspiron 530, on boot fluxbox appears, when icewm is chosen from the menu, it loads long enough to see the icons then logs out, logging in brings us back to fluxbox.

      Installed LightDM Icewm JWM and fluxbox are offered but LightDM reboot and logout , suspend, and shutdown options are greyed out,…. but it will boot icewm……with no pinboard.

      calling “rox –pinboard=Default”
      gives the messages;
      Gtk-Message: 19:45:50.154: Failed to load module “gail”
      Gtk-Message: 19:45:50.154: Failed to load module “atk-bridge”

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        Hallo Red_Fir,
        What you describe sounds like a bad image, or possibly stick. Did you check your downloaded
        image before writing to the stick, pls tell us how you wrote the stick.
        Having done a lot of, AntiX and MX installations over the last months my experience has shown a
        corrupt image was cause of failure in majority of cases.
        Second came USB stick fake size or hard to detect formatting problem. I have found some sticks formatted with the Antix tool will not work until after command line format. How to test for fake stick with linux, Posted in Forum.

        How to check downloaded image has been written in Help and forum many times.

        Using command line to format always works, even on corrupted sticks. I have seen a number of those lately.

        correctly identify your USB Stick. enter: df -h to show drives then pick out your drive.

        Ensure the drive is not mounted, enter: sudo umount /dev/sdXX You must enter your drive designation.

        To Format with FAT32 enter: sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdXX
        To format with sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdc1

        Flash your image and run live, if live works ok then move to install.
        If you need further help you must please post more detail in the forum.

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          I downloaded the 64 bit full version, checked the md5 checksum with an online generator, and burnt it with xfburn, on a dvdrw,
          The live environment works fine….persistence is less then as advertised,
          I found the solution to the two mentioned messages and now an attempt to run “rox –pinboard=Default” results in a flat grey screen with a Rox-filer link at the upper left, no conky, no developed start menu

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            The problem lies here:

            Installed LightDM

            Changing from slim to lightdm has given problems to many, including myself. You will have to check if you have to replace the instructions for the session files in /usr/share/xsessions.

            antiX Live system enthusiast.
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              More than willing to believe that but…..
              without LightDM any attempt to change from fluxbox crashed and brought me back to a login prompt with no options
              , logging in would simply bring me back to fluxbox

              #41524
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                You could also test the option in Menu> Desktop > Other Desktops and select any of the other fluxbox flavors there. Not sure if it will also work with lightdm installed.

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                  There are probably people here capable of guessing things for you even lacking any info, but I’m not that smart.

                  You also haven’t told us enough about the machine and what/how its loaded. We probably don’t have a machine like it to test with. Please post the output of inxi -Fxz so everyone can see what hardware and OS/drivers are running.

                  You didn’t say why you were installing LightDM or what you at setting up the machine to do? AFAIK, the persistence works, but not knowing anything about what you have or are trying to do, or how you were trying to do it, makes it kinda hard to help much, other than guess.

                  If I was to guess, at some point in that sequence (after getting LightDM installed and running), the list of desktops got corrupted, and so IceWM options were no longer on the list to select, and maybe you selected Fluxbox at that point. If that is your only problem, there is a solution for that posted here involving reinstalling one desktop package (I forget the name, but basically LightDM uses files in the same directory, so they don’t play nice together as I recall).

                  If there are also other issues, my solution would be to reinstall from scratch. On the new install, if you need to change things, change them one at a time, and keep a record of what was done in what sequence, so that others can help reproduce the same problems and from doing so, can see how to help you resolve them. I’m not trying to complain, just trying to suggest an easier (quicker too) way of getting good results.

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                  #41531
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                    yes
                    I tried the Menu> Desktop > Other Desktops
                    With fluxbox it crashes regardless of which dm is used
                    With any other desktop there is no Menu> Desktop > Other Desktops
                    IceWM offers standard IceWM options with no (antiX?) pinboard ditto for JWM

                    #41532
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                      You didn’t say why you were installing LightDM or what you at setting up the machine to do? AFAIK, persistence works, but not knowing anything about what you have or are trying to do, or how you were trying to do it, makes it kinda hard to help much, other than guess.

                      I think the problems you are having are rooted in trying to replace Slim with LightDM. If I was to guess, at some point the list of desktops got corrupted. Maybe Xecure knows a way, but if I recall, the options that change desktops are designed to work with Slim the way antiX has everything configured, not LightDM. I actually run LightDM on this machine, but knowing that, I would not try changing desktops from the menu.

                      My solution would be to save anything of value and reinstall from scratch. On the new install, if you need to change things, change them one at a time, and keep a record of what was done in what sequence if you want help from others. We need to be able to reproduce the same problems and from doing so, can see how to help you resolve them. I’m not trying to complain, just trying to suggest an easier (quicker too) way of getting good results.

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                        Hello Red_Fir
                        You wrote “burnt on dvdrw.”
                        Please trial write to dvd+r.

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                          I did say why I installed LightDM……..with SLiM there were no options, none of any kind, no f options… nothing. A simple login that went directly to fluxbox, and from fluxbox any attempt to gain another desktop crashed and brought me back to the SLiM login…with no options.

                          With LightDM I can boot into any of the basic desktops without the Rox additions

                          I reinstalled SLiM and switched back to it….same behavior.

                          Switching back to LightDM in any of the desktops and invoking Rox from the command line gives a monochromatic grey desktop a rox-filer in the upper left and standard (for any of the window managers) WM options.

                          Can I import the pinboard from the dvd? and where do I find it?

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                            No dvdr available will try a usb stick

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                              No need to import from DVD to get the pinboard.
                              Open ~/.icewm/startup (you can get there navigating or from Control centre > Desktop > Edit IceWM Settings)
                              Add this line if you want the rox pinboard:
                              rox --pinboard=antiX-icewm &

                              or add this line if you want spacefm to control the desktop:
                              spacefm --desktop &

                              If after relogging in it doesn’t launch, it means that you need to edit the icewm.desktop in /usr/share/xsessions so that TryExec says:
                              TryExec=icewm-session

                              I am trying to avoid lightdm until I fully understand how desktop-session-antix works, so I cannot help with that right now.
                              For your case, if you keep experiencing other strange things apart from this, try reinstalling and see if this also happens in vanilla antiX.

                              By the way, did this also happen in antiX live (DVD) session?

                              antiX Live system enthusiast.
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                                Fi/ With at lest Lightdm, it is interesting to also have an other icewm-session.desktop (and the initial icewm.desktop) into /usr/share/xsessions/ … (would be by default into antiX for me)

                                with inside:
                                Exec=icewm-session
                                instead
                                Exec=icewm

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                                  After installing, when booting with Slim you don’t see the different desktop options, and it is actually set for whatever you have as default. If you keep pressing F1 at the login screen it should go through the list of window manager/file manager/desktop options and you see them showing up underneath one at a time.

                                  Maybe that didn’t appear or work?

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