Menu (and taskbar) entry question. (problem)?

[Member Thalassius]

Hi! 🙂

I uninstalled the default web browser (SeaMonkey?) and I went with Firefox instead.
Now I have afterthoughts about my decision, but that’s another story. 🙂

Both at menu and at taskbar there are left the “Web browser” icons (the ones, with the compass), but they’re inactive.
Can I remove them? How exactly?

menu-ice had a related entry, which I removed.
menu-applications doesn’t have a related entry.

After that, I also tried the “Refresh menu” button, but it doesn’t have any effect. It seems to be also inactive.
Am I missing something? 🙂

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Use IceWM Toolbar Icon Manager (under Applications > antiX) to remove the browser icon from the toolbar.

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[Member Thalassius]

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Fast personal menu manager, does not have a related entry, while
Menu manager indeed has a web browser one, but it reports it, as hidden.

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[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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Use IceWM Toolbar Icon Manager (under Applications > antiX) to remove the browser icon from the toolbar.

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[Member marcelocripe]

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Hello thalassius.

Have you read the excellent tutorials created by @PPC there?

Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie and How-to install applications – 2020 version.

thalassius wrote:
Both at menu and at taskbar there are left the “Web browser” icons (the ones, with the compass), but they’re inactive.
Can I remove them? How exactly?

PPC wrote:
Do you like SpaceFM enough to always want to use it to access your files? Make it the default File Manager:
Menu > Control Center > Default Applications (it’s the “yellow star” icon) > Click the input field to the right of “File Manager” and select “spacefm.desktop” from the list, Click “Open” on that selection window, then “Ok” on the main window. From now on, when you click the File Manager icon on the toolbar or the menu, or plug in and external drive, it will always launch SpaceFM.

Replace the word “SpaceFM” in the text with “Firefox” and “File Manager” with “Internet Browser” and follow the same steps for the compass icon to work again.

Can I remove them? How exactly?

To remove the toolbar icons read the help button text of the Toolbar Icon Manager program, go to Menu, Applications, antiX.

menu-ice had a related entry, which I removed.
menu-applications doesn’t have a related entry.

I couldn’t understand the automatic translation of your text into my language.

After that, I also tried the “Refresh menu” button, but it doesn’t have any effect. It seems to be also inactive.

The “Refresh menu” that is on the first level of the antiX menu does not do this, it “reloads the display” of the menus that are generated by the .desktop files that are in the /usr/share/applications/ folder. (Could an expert confirm or correct this information?)

Am I missing something?

Yes, you need to read the different tutorials that are spread on this forum, start with the two that I indicated, then, if you want to learn more, access the area at Portuguese, you will have to translate the texts to or your language with the automatic translation of the internet translators. You will find other tutorials that may be useful to you.

Several antiX community programs with a tutorial describing how to use them are available on this website Internet Archive.

As you may already know, I don’t know how to write in English and I send my texts translated by the internet translator. I hope you can understand everything, if your native language is not English, please translate my original text in Brazilian Portuguese language directly into your language with the help of internet translators.

marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)

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Olá thalassius.

Você lá leu os excelentes tutoriais criados pelo @PPC?

Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie e How-to install applications – 2020 version.

thalassius wrote:
Both at menu and at taskbar there are left the “Web browser” icons (the ones, with the compass), but they’re inactive.
Can I remove them? How exactly?

PPC wrote:
Do you like SpaceFM enough to always want to use it to access your files? Make it the default File Manager:
Menu > Control Centre > Default Applications (it’s the “yellow star” icon) > Click the input field to the right of “File Manager” and select “spacefm.desktop” from the list, Click “Open” on that selection window, then “Ok” on the main window. From now on, when you click the File Manager icon on the toolbar or the menu, or plug in and external drive, it will always launch SpaceFM.

Substitua no texto a palavra “SpaceFM” por “Firefox” e “Gerenciador de Arquivos” por “Navegador de Internet” e siga os mesmos passos para o ícone da bússola voltar a funcionar.

Can I remove them? How exactly?

Para remover os ícones da barra de ferramentas leia o texto do botão de ajuda do programa Toolbar Icon Manager, acesse Menu, Applications, antiX.

menu-ice had a related entry, which I removed.
menu-applications doesn’t have a related entry.

Eu não consegui compreender a tradução automática do seu texto para o meu idioma.

After that, I also tried the “Refresh menu” button, but it doesn’t have any effect. It seems to be also inactive.

O menu “Refresh menu” que está no primeiro nível do menu do antiX não serve para fazer isso, ele “recarrega a exibição” dos menus que são gerados pelos arquivos .desktop que etão na pasta /usr/share/applications/. (um especialista poderia confirmar ou corrigir esta informação?)

Am I missing something?

Sim, você precisa ler os diversos tutoriais que estão espalhados neste fórum, comece por aqueles dois que eu te indiquei, depois, se você quiser aprender mais, acesse a área em Portuguese, você terá que traduzir os textos para ou seu idioma com a tradução automática dos tradures da internet. Você encontrará outros tutoriais que podem ser úteis para você.

Vários programas da comunidade antiX com tutorial descrevendo como utilizar estão disponíveis nesta página eletrônica Internet Archive.

Como você já deve saber, eu não sei escrever em idioma Inglês e envio os meus textos traduzidos pelo tradutor da internet. Eu espero que você consiga compreender tudo, caso o seu idioma nativo não seja o Inglês, por favor, traduza o meu texto original em idioma Português do Brasil diretamente para o seu idioma com a ajuda dos tradutores da internet.

marcelocripe
(Texto original em idioma Português do Brasil)

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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Did I miss something here? SpaceFM (replaced by zzzFM) is a File Manager. Firefox is a Web Browser.

So to me, SpaceFM (or zzzFM) —> File Manager; Firefox (or Chrome, or LibreWolf) —> Web Browser.

Was something mismatched in the descriptions, or were these unintentionally changed?

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[Member Robin]

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Brian Masinick wrote:

Did I miss something here? SpaceFM (replaced by zzzFM) is a File Manager. Firefox is a Web Browser.

Marcelo obviouisly used this as an example only, how the process works in general:

marcelocripe wrote:

Replace the word “SpaceFM” in the text with “Firefox” and “File Manager” with “Internet Browser” and follow the same steps

So I believe, nothing was mismatched.

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[Member PPC]

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Like posted above, to solve both your “problems”:

-remove icons from icewm’s toolbar: anticapitalista, recommended twice to use ” IceWM Toolbar Icon Manager (under Applications > antiX) ”
-remove menu entries for applications that were uninstalled: try this: Menu > Terminal >

sudo desktop-menu --write-out-global
The menu should be updated. Usually it’s not needed to restart antiX to see the changes… But the icon you want to delete is a generic one, not one of an installed application – it points to the default Internet browser. since you removed the default browser, and did not select any other default browser, the icon now does nothing. that’s why Marcelo recommend that you should select Firefox as default Internet Browser- that way clicking the “compass” icon, summons Firefox…

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[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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OK, that explains the (unintentional) discrepancy.

I looked 2-3 posts back and couldn’t figure out why file managers and Web browsers were “reversed” in the example, but if it’s just an example of words to replace, I guess that is OK, as long as the translators understand what is taking place. Thanks for the clarification!

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[Member Thalassius]

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Ooops!…I missed the videos. 🙁
Let me take a thorougher look at them, and I’ll be back!

Meanwhile (as root):

#desktop-menu --write-out-global
Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
Writing Menu: fluxbox

(desktop-menu:2756): Gtk-CRITICAL **: 19:44:25.110: gtk_icon_theme_get_for_screen: assertion 'GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/desktop-menu", line 328, in <module>
    build_menu()
  File "/usr/local/bin/desktop-menu", line 300, in build_menu
    process_menu(menu)
  File "/usr/local/bin/desktop-menu", line 134, in process_menu
    icon = find_icon(entry) or default_folder_icon
  File "/usr/local/bin/desktop-menu", line 105, in find_icon
    if icon_theme.lookup_icon(appicon, icon_size, 0):
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'lookup_icon'
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It didn’t have any effect (even after reboot).

PS. Firefox is already the default browser.

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[Member PPC]

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Thalassius wrote:

Meanwhile (as root):

It usually is a very bad choice doing stuff on your system as root- try using a “regular” user, with elevated “sudo” privileges- sometimes simple things do not work as intended because they are done as root (probably not related to this errors you are getting, I don’t know)
If you selected Firefox as default browser using the steps Marcelo recommended, click the “compass” icon should start firefox.

As a side note: if you installed Firefox, and not Firefox-esr, unless you are using pulseaudio or pipewire, etc… You’ll probably have no sound…
You’ll have to edit Firefox’s .desktop file to make sure that the Exec line reads something like “apulse firefox”… And, when launching Firefox from the terminal, you’ll also have to run it that way (with the apulse prefix)-

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[Member Thalassius]

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Well…I don’t want to play “smart”, and I admit that I’m not familiar with Antix.
Having said that, all those years, I was using Debian (before the systemd incident), “su -” was the only thing (precaution) needed, for working as root (and never let me down. Didn’t mix the personal with root’s settings and files).
Never like sudo for PCs. It’s more oriented towards bigger systems at my opinion. For PCs it’s kind of an overkill.
OK! Just my opinion! 🙂

Sorry for the misinterpretation about Firefox.
I meant the repository version (ESR).

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Regarding the use of the root account, and also of using su versus sudo or some other administrative mechanism: su was and is the classical way of gaining privileged access from an ordinary account and it is accessible only by those who know the administrative root account password.

The sudo (and other versions of similar tools) were created primarily for use on individual, personal systems. Professional administration of systems should be conducted either using the root account or privileged access to the root account, with logged activity to use in order to track changes and resolve problems, especially in “all hands on deck” root cause analysis instances.

As far as personal systems go, it really doesn’t matter what you use, I use, or anyone else uses; experiment to your heart’s content, and be sure you have a way to rebuild the system, install or reinstall something else, etc. Specific example: at this very moment, I’m using my old Lenovo Thinkpad X201 laptop. Going into today, I had antiX 19.5 installed on it, and I still have a working USB stick to install it again if I so choose. I installed EndeavourOS to see how well it’d work on this system (the answer is, “very nicely!”). I still like using antiX here, so I went through my current USB’s near the top of my pile in my clear plastic box, and in addition to EndeavourOS, I found antiX 19.5 as noted, KNOPPIX 9.1, and antiX 21 runit “Base”.

I put in KNOPPIX and it booted up and spoke in the usual female voice: “Initiating startup sequence”, but when the desktop emerged, it DID NOT offer a Wifi solution on this hardware; it showed only Ethernet available, so if I want KNOPPIX to work here, I’ll need to pick up a Wifi dongle with a fairly universal interface card; they are inexpensive, but I typically don’t need one, so I probably will not do this. Instead, I went through the stack, found the antiX 21 I was pretty sure I had (and hadn’t overwritten), and sure enough, that’s what I’m using LIVE here; that way I can experiment with both antiX and EndeavourOS on this system.

I’ll probably pull out another dinosaur system collecting dust and see what else I can experiment with today! (Play day for this retiree; no shows or meetings to attend today). Distro play, here we come! 🙂

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The more manual way (outside of using the programs mentioned above) would be to remove them by editing the menu file and the toolbar file.
geany ~/.icewm/menu ~/.icewm/toolbar

You can also run desktop-defaults-set and change the default web browser to firefox which should make the buttons work again but for firefox.

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Dave wrote:

The more manual way (outside of using the programs mentioned above) would be to remove them by editing the menu file and the toolbar file.
geany ~/.icewm/menu ~/.icewm/toolbar

You can also run desktop-defaults-set and change the default web browser to firefox which should make the buttons work again but for firefox.

Yes, it is the way I usually use too (can be faster).

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