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June 5, 2018 at 6:26 am #10733Forum Admin
This is the First I heard about it.
REDMOND, Wash. — June 4, 2018 — Microsoft Corp. on Monday announced it has reached an agreement to acquire GitHub, the world’s leading software development platform where more than 28 million developers learn, share and collaborate to create the future. Together, the two companies will empower developers to achieve more at every stage of the development lifecycle, accelerate enterprise use of GitHub, and bring Microsoft’s developer tools and services to new audiences.June 5, 2018 at 6:39 am #10734Forum Admin
Since I am not hip on what all this might entail. I will just throw this in here cuz it cannot hurt this thread.
Back Up GitHub and GitLab Repositories Using GolangJune 5, 2018 at 2:00 pm #10741Forum Admin
Here is the MX forum thread for more infoJune 5, 2018 at 3:38 pm #10743Member
I was disappointed to see this, Microsoft is no friend of open source. Never have been, IMHO never will be. MS still has lawsuits going forward against many corporations. claiming patents on everything you could never dream of.
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The Art of WarJune 6, 2018 at 10:17 am #10750Member
anti just said everything will be moved to Gitlab. What a mess thanks to MS.June 6, 2018 at 11:17 am #10751Forum Admin
anti just said everything will be moved to Gitlab. What a mess thanks to MS.
Yes, antiX is being moved to gitlab.
I don’t see there being a mess if you mean our collaboration with MX Linux and if they say with github.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.June 6, 2018 at 11:28 am #10752Forum Admin
All I know is skype has not been the same since Microsoft absorbed it. I don’t github. So I have no dog in this hunt.
I know skidoo, D.O., Dave, Bitjam, and Anti github though.
I’ll leave skidoos and Anti’s links out of this post. I really don’t think there is any need to worry yet.
It is still early in this process of assimilation.
But it pays to be careful when Microsoft walks into the room.June 6, 2018 at 1:40 pm #10753Forum Admin
its all git underneath, so I think we will be fine, even if the MX stuff stays on github (for at least a while). I’m in no hurry, but I totally get why anti (and many many others in the linux community) might want to move the git repos. Its all good. its all git underneath (for now…cue ominous villain music).
In other news, Apple announced gitlab integration with their new developer kits at the WWWDC. So its not just linux folks looking for a alternative.June 6, 2018 at 2:39 pm #10754Member
I don’t have enough technical knowledge to fully understand the implications of all this. But I’m worried, MS brings a corporate mission that has nothing to do with the open-source philosophy. A wolf can dress up as a lamb but remains a wolf … even more dangerous.
But it pays to be careful when Microsoft walks into the room
I totally agree
So it reassures me that anti and the antiX dev team are thinking to move to gitlab.
I’m sure the MX team will come to the same conclusion… probably they need a little more time.
June 9, 2018 at 3:12 am #10795Moderator
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I don’t know the technicalities of all this, but I’d rather not have anything to do with MS, as they have always been anti freedom in everything they seem to do.
Linux (& BSD) since 1999June 30, 2018 at 2:28 pm #11186Moderator
While Microsoft has been against any kind of open software over the years, they have actually joined many so-called “open” forums and is a contributor to several code projects that can be freely used by others. What I see is that they do contribute in some places that share software, but still vigorously retain any assets they have that are “non-free” in any way.
What this says to me is that anywhere Microsoft CONTRIBUTES free software themselves under FREE licenses, any of us should be SAFE in such places. As long as whatever code in GIT has already been freely licensed, Microsoft cannot take away any PAST or CURRENT freedom, but they could fork and privately license future work. I doubt that they will do that, but I do believe that they will still vigorously defend (charge and prosecute) to maintain anything for which they own an exclusive license, patent, or other legal mechanism that they are allowed by law to license and protect.
As long as you know which efforts are freely licensed and which are not, there should be no conflicts. Each person has a right to choose how to react; I choose not to fear, but to be aware of what is taking place.
Brian MasinickJuly 1, 2018 at 5:30 pm #11206Member
I don’t trust Microsoft worth a damn. I hope that some day all these big multibillion dollar businesses like Microsoft will be forced to decentralize, and unionize for that matter. Here’s to hoping that Github won’t go down the tubes. Microsoft could easily decide a year from now “Github just isn’t profitable enough” or use some other similar corporatist excuse to shut down Github, which provides ample support to their competitors GNU/Linux, BSD et cetera and the political movements therein.
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Bertolt Brecht's beautiful poem, the Unconquerable Inscription.October 12, 2018 at 11:29 am #12519Member
I don’t trust Microsoft either and find this concerning enough to want to reach out in solidarity to those who I might disagree with about other issues.
I’m not much of a programmer and was just starting to enjoy Git Hub when this happened, but it’s not as if I wasn’t warned. I’m using https://notabug.org/ now, but there is another notabug website that looks like some sort of a Reddit-style politics discussion.
I’ll check out Gitlab too. Thanks bunches. 🙂
Gnu/Linux user #387554 (since 2005-4-17) with old thinkpads and a strong preference for free-as-in-freedom over proprietary software.
Having loved and dabbled in antiX for a long time, I find that I still have so very much to learn and that learning is so very enjoyable.October 12, 2018 at 12:18 pm #12524Moderator
After the initial fury and concern in these matters, I have seen very little discussion anywhere since. The “Good News” in our area is that there are always alternatives, and our wise developers have chosen to take advantage of them, so the only “inconvenience” from our perspective and there’s was the time and effort needed to organize and move development to different servers.
Though I am not an active developer and did not pay or exert the efforts, as a somewhat “outside observer”, a potentially good “side effect” of all of this is/was to have a good means to back up, organize, and move our servers, services, and development code around. I doubt that it will be the last time we’ll need to do this, either in the antiX community or in other (future) successors or new efforts that our friends and associates develop.
I also believe that though we’re currently doing legacy stuff, for the most part, for “OLD” devices, that could change at some point too. Either what is deemed as an “old device” is likely to change, or even the types of systems and services we choose to offer may change, and that is why I think it is always healthy to be able to store, modify, or move any technologies we have, either now or in the future.
That said, I’ve been completely DELIGHTED with the technologies, programs, ideas, and services we’ve had here now for well over a decade for OLD stuff!
(Now *I’m* part of the “OLD STUFF” too)! [grin]
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