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ModdIt
Apart from having had numerous hit and miss usability or website compatibility
problems with midori on user devices the Privacy policy is interesting.
Astian Foundation is based in USA so any semblance of user privacy will be comprimised
by law.https://astian.org/blog/2022/11/15/astian-respect-for-users-privacy/Policy states personal data is collected. Astian is based in USA. Top choice avoid it.
If you must use midori do change to a privacy respecting search instance, block matomo.org.
analytics. Although it may well be that a matomo instance is running on astian.org
servers. As in.
Matomo On-Premise – gives you complete control. Once downloaded, you have 100% data ownership
as Matomo is hosted on your own servers.LibreWolf, UngoogldChromium, Firefox with arkenfox user.js and a privacy respecting search instance
are the better choices. If the machine will run them.
techore
Policy states personal data is collected.
Just read their ‘respect for users privacy’ and the title and contents are contradictory in my opinion.
Thank you for sharing. I will remove Midori from my list of “browsers to explore.”
banned
Creating multiple posts to include ungoogled chromium will not make your favoured software any better.
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/update-urgently-pls-ungoogledchromium/
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/ungoogled-chromium-update-available/
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/command-line-switches-chrome-and-ungoogled-chromium/Is there any independent verification that it is google free? Any connections to google servers – hidden or otherwise?
According to Midori company Astian….
https://astian.org/midori-browser-desktop/
A fast and secure lightweight browser available for your desktop computer
In addition, it fully respects your privacy and protects your information.
And…Total Privacy – With Midori Browser you have total privacy & total control, we don’t spy on you, we don’t track you.
And…Our own search engine – Midori is integrated with AstianGO, our own search engine, to further respect your privacy.
And…Features for productivity – Midori has improvements that allow you to increase productivity, bookmarks, history, gestures, VPN and more
With your convictions I would seek clarity from Astian 🙂
🙂 🙂 🙂
Yet once again we find you promoting the insecure ungoogled-chromium failing to provide any independent security audit or any independent reference at all…! After repeated requests – Nothing – Zilch…!
If your threat model requires security and privacy – as I have said many times – as have many security experts, news media, whistleblowers — Edward Snowden, NSA whistleblower, Activists, Journalists and their sources, etc – use Tails+Tor on a usb drive. Never had any trouble and it leaves no trace on the host computer that you were ever there – how cool is that 🙂 – It is just that simple 🙂
To Quote Borum (Tails) – You can download Tails for free and independent security researchers can verify our work. Tails is based on Debian GNU/Linux.If your threat model requires security and privacy on a smartphone use GrapheneOS – It is just that simple 🙂
Again posted as we, the 72 year old pensioner ? who first claimed to be a novice linux user,
recently posting a claim to be a genius, part of a group trying by any means to promote adoption of lxde.At least those users I support are decidedly uninterested.
No browser on the planet available to the civilian population at present provides total privacy or is ever likely to.
that includes tor on tails or any OS on a smartfone.The posts on Ungoogled chromium inform of available updates as up to date versions are not available from repos.
The last one a heads up with regard to an available fixed version due security breach in all chromium based Browsers.
Apart from Security sites like Ghacks among others using tools intercepting traffic to a small server allows
analysis but often not actual content of any browser requests due to the fact they are often encrypted or highly cryptic.Use whatever browser or desktop you like, others have made own choices.
Brian Masinick
I’m not sure about Midori; unless it’s been recently updated it appeared to be dormant for a while; I would definitely have “reservations” about it being anywhere near to “up-to-date”. Andy, do you have any recent information about the LXDE project? Some of the old window managers get at least occasional updates.
A few years ago now, a project was started to put the “LX” infrastructure on a Qt-based library structure. Unfortunately, from that time forward, I hadn’t seen any additional or incremental work being done on the LXDE project either, though I have not been watching it closely. It is/was certainly one of the most efficient, if not the MOST efficient desktop environment, prior to the change of direction on the LX project; if in fact, the Gtk foundation of LXDE does not get Gtk/Gtk+ changes, that project is on the third and fourth updates; that would be one concern unless at least a few people have at least been updating any security related issues.
Given your interest in LXDE ( it does indeed have an efficient footprint among the desktop environments ) do you have any updates on whether or not the environment receives regular updates any more? Thanks!
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Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
According to https://forum.manjaro.org/t/is-lxde-dead-or-still-usable/52093/4 LXDE is *NOT* dead; I probably saw one of the posts mentioned in this forum.
I’ll look around some more, but based on this, the information I read was inaccurate; it may have been fairly quiet for a while, but it’s certainly NOT dead!--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
More references and information – there WAS some slowdown in LXDE effort, but there has also been a resurrection of sorts, assuming it continues to be developed, ported and maintained: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LXDE.
As for Midori, I think at one time there was interest in using it with the Xfce desktop; I do not believe that is still the case; it’s possible that it’s used in some LXQt or LXDE setups.
Anyone more up to date on that work than me? (I can look it up, but at the moment it’s not my personal focal point).
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Brian Masinicktechore
Regarding LXDE and LXQt.
I was using LXDE when they decided to move from gtk to qt. The intent was to support LXDE until LXQt was fully baked. LXDE the distribution is not dead per se but nor is it thriving.
- This reply was modified 5 months ago by techore.
From Distrowatch:
“Nearly two years of development has gone in to shaping Xfce 4.18, which is due for release on December 15, 2022.
The release will be the stable series follow-up to Xfce 4.16 which debuted back in Christmas of 2020In the LXDE blog earlier this year there was talk of needing a promotion campaign to push the desktop.
LXDE has been seemingly sleeping, if the update has as much substance and style as the campaining here in a critical
pre distro update and transit development phase on what was an antiX forum, popularity is likely to “be affected”.Here a number of users with low end machines were clamouring and trialed LXDE and Midori.
With Midori, no way to login to school, Bank refused connection as did tax office Stating considered Insecure not audited.
University server for online seminars refused connection, a lot of websites would not work correctly. that was not pre
testable as normal since covid pandemic brought remote learning to the forefront.All group users here are now back to “our choice” of Usability, stability and reliability, antiX Full 22 Runit, or sysV as init.
Very well supported ICEWM. Often with BobC and PPC modding. Their contributions are very welcome and highly regarded.Browser choices: Firefox LTS or latest with a modified arkenfox Userjs. LibreWolf, Ungoogled Chromium, Tor. Palemoon and
Iceweasel also on offer but both have some site compatibility issues. For the German online Tax system Vivaldi.Call the moddits ISO bloated, it gives choices and gets important work, study and play done without fuss and pain.
Runs with stability both live or installed on a crazy variety of systems.First off – could I quickly suggest you guys visit DistroWatch and seek the opinion of their much trusted test and review expert instead of blathering on?
https://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20140707#feature
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=lxle
Hey – Just remember that was back in 2016 🙂 This years release is even better 🙂
Quote from old version review: “The LXDE interface was pleasantly responsive. I like the LXDE desktop as I feel it does an excellent job of balancing user friendliness, performance and features.”
You want my opinion 🙂 Nah 🙂 You heard it already…
Getting sidetracked – so perhaps will start a new topic: LXDE, is it Dead? Where folks can pretend whatever 🙂 Locos por Linux… does not exist 🙂——————————————————————————
Hi there folks – 72 year old pensioner – retired design engineer – Linux Amateur – New to AntiX – part of no group 🙂 Thought I was banned for talking back – defying misinformation – etc. Was bombarded by downloaded PHP files from Antix dot com – delete one and another immediately downloaded: What..!? – smear campaign – no – dirty tricks? – ban then infected laptop…? Okay, no problemo – for as always trying to help our members and genuine fears for their security 🙂
So guess what? Bomb out – power off. Then power up with Tails+Tor on USB 🙂 Phew; safe again 🙂
Back straight in – no problemo..!You will not have missed the Locos por Linux YT video channel – I noticed in one of his many AntiX vids he is using Midori – as I did before Trisquel-mini got too slow. I have not used the totally revamped latest version.
So Moddit keeps on claiming that nothing is secure yet promotes the insecure degoogled-chromium – you cannot be serious..? 🙂 As that star of tennis would say 🙂
It is of course the right of Moddit to promote anything he likes – as it is for me to highlight potential dangers. He also repeatedly claims that zero-day attacks affect ALL chromium browsers yet is in complete ignorance of GrapheneOS’s chromium based Vanadium and unaware of the strategy.So let’s cut to the chase about browser security or lack of it:- see screenshots below
On security check out contacting the Guardian with sensitive information. They recommend Tails+Tor.
I have been using it for about three years without issue as now on our forum.
I can bounce around the planet at any time to hide identity and location plus search and use the dark web 🙂 When I am finished with it and shut down it leaves no trace on the host device that I was ever on our forum or anywhere else or on any laptop or pc 🙂 As Ed Snowden says – the ultimate test is whether anyone gets caught by using Tails+Tor. So far zero. You can confirm this yourself by searching the deep web 🙂 Thousands have got caught and-or exposed by not doing so..!
A schoolkid could easily hack that insecure mess some promote 🙂That’s enough for now 🙂 please post similar to pictures below about your recommendations to other members on our forum…
It would appear that you do not understand GrapheneOS at all or its chromium based Vanadium browser…It should be obvious to ALL who is up to speed on privacy and security….???
Cheers – OAP Old Age Pensioner 🙂
ps who else is in this mystery group promoting LXDE – Gah – Must stop using it – I do not want to be part of any vacuous groupthink – OMG..! Ha ha 🙂
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Again posted as we, the 72 year old pensioner ? who first claimed to be a novice linux user,
recently posting a claim to be a genius, part of a group trying by any means to promote adoption of lxde.who else is in this mystery group promoting LXDE – Gah – Must stop using it – I do not want to be part of any vacuous groupthink – OMG..! Ha ha 🙂
Wild claims again with no answers? Claimed to be genius; where??? part of a LXDE promo group – where?
With Midori, no way to login to school, Bank refused connection as did tax office Stating considered Insecure not audited.
No trouble here in the UK 🙂 Where are you? Which Midori version(s) are you referring to?
Very well supported ICEWM. Often with BobC and PPC modding. Their contributions are very welcome and highly regarded.
How many YouTube subscribers…? Think Locos por Linux has 20,100 mostly Spanish speaking, last time I checked.
Hey Guys – No Bloat there – Super Fast 🙂
Could you explain why I can play three web live videos at once on my old laptop when other vids show their systems struggling to play one?Then we get to another prime insinuation.
Call the moddits ISO bloated, it gives choices and gets important work, study and play done without fuss and pain.
Runs with stability both live or installed on a crazy variety of systems.Don’t know what you are trying to imply – My wife and I have no trouble at all with important work, study and play – no fuss at all – simple desktop interface – gets our workflow done fast, efficient with the outstandingly reliable AntiX-22 Full LXDE. Thanks as always to Devs and Testers 🙂
Cheers Andy & Millie OAP married couple, combined age 150 years 🙂 🙂 Three very fast reliable computers 🙂 🙂 🙂
So it seems I am on the wrong forum, something like fox news XFCE promotions.
Mr andy will of course from now on support users on all aspects of antix instead
using the forum as a promo platform .Have fun guys.
I dont need the forum when it is in this shit state.
IMHO much worse than when No Clue was king.
My thanks to those who have given constructive criticism, support, and made antiX
a group go to distro over last years.
anticapitalista
Locos por Linux is a fraud.
His ‘spin’ is antiX plus lxde.
He does not mention that. In fact he pretends it is based on Debian.
He does not give any recognition to antiX.
Anyone with half a brain can see it is an antiX spinPhilosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
techore
@Andy, please do not misattribute me and don’t drag me into your disagreements.
I dont need the forum when it is in this shit state.
Using the Forum as a LXDE misinformation platform: ModdIt wrote previously:-
After using ICEWM LXDE feels very sluggish though.
LXDE makes the I5 Nvidia Tesla box I an using daily feel slow to react after more than two years with a highly customized and semi automated ICEWM.
I was forced to do an LXDE setup a short while ago, the user regretted the change even more than me :-). Now back to efficiency.
Many thanks to the Moddit clique – give it up for a round of applause 🙂 🙂 🙂
A monument and his legacy of deliberate misinformation – there again would that clique know how to set up AntiX-LXDE..??? 🙂 I doubt it – how about you? 🙂
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