Minor U.I. suggestions for future antiX versions

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  • #121614
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    Brian Masinick

      @PPC all of this is REALLY good!

      Until a week or two ago, it had been a few years since I had previously used antiX Core or antiX Base.
      I went back to use both – on my Dell Inspiron 5558 laptop, since both start up with a V5 kernel.

      Of course they are still outstanding versions, but it quickly became very clear how many usability
      tools have been added to antiX over the past couple of releases. You’ve played a significant role
      in that difference; thank you very much for all that you do – and it’s STILL lean and efficient! 🙂

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      #121618
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      PPC

        Thanks, Mr Masinick – I worked hard, on my free time, to try to help in antiX where I could – creating simple but efficient GUI’s or scripts, so regular computer users, that know nothing about using the Terminal or configuring config files, can use it. I also tried to make it look as best and polished as I could, and offer has much features as possible, without using extra resources.
        I don’t know anything about the real important stuff, like compiling kernels, drivers, programming applications in python, etc- but all the small GUIs and scripts that got added to antiX over recent years (by all kinds of forum users) made antiX, in it’s Full version, a pleasure to use. I’ve tested heavy distros, that run on Gnome or KDE, and I can say that most of what those distros offer, antiX offers too, with a much, much smaller resource footprint.

        I’m currently thinking about a way to create a project to propose that Portuguese public service computers run Linux, antiX in particular, since most are very, very old. Main problem- I’m unsure if antiX works with the “professional” network printers those services use…

        P.

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        #121619
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        Brian Masinick

          @PPC I haven’t built or rebuilt my own kernel in quite some time, but the good news for all of us is that there are numerous possibilities that are available in BINARY kernels, already prepared. The Debian repos have quite a few right up to the 6.5 kernel, Damentz makes some AWESOME kernels called Liquorix, and you can read about them at https://techpatterns.com/forums/forum-34.html – the same site that h2 uses for inxi and smxi (just in a different topic). Xanmod is another alternative source for modern kernels, and of course, we have an excellent selection of kernels that are directly provided in our antiX specific repos too, so alternatives abound, no need to personally be a kernel expert.

          Gamers might want to look into either the Liquorix or Xanmod kernels; Xanmod kernels are the largest and seem to offer several added features – I’ll go onto my other partition and follow up with more details because I’ve been experimenting there…

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          #121621
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          Brian Masinick

            @PPC – size of the various kernels I’ve installed on my sysVinit version of antiX 23:

            drwxrwxr-x 2 root root 4096 Aug 28 17:47 uefi-mt
            -rw-rw-r– 1 root root 7619360 Sep 26 13:17 vmlinuz-6.1.55-antix.1-amd64-smp
            -rw-rw-r– 1 root root 9139904 Oct 8 10:30 vmlinuz-6.5.0-0.deb12.1-amd64
            -rw-rw-r– 1 root root 8738368 Oct 19 17:47 vmlinuz-6.5.8-1-liquorix-amd64
            -rw-rw-r– 1 root root 10969440 Oct 20 03:08 vmlinuz-6.5.8-x64v3-xanmod1

            To read more, see
            https://liquorix.net/
            https://xanmod.org/

            and if you want the latest Linux stuff:
            https://kernel.org/

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            #121622
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            Brian Masinick

              Also https://docs.kernel.org/

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              #124558
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              PPC

                I can say it’s a good thing, when I look at my computers and think: “OK, I have nothing more I want to change, this looks perfect!”
                Some of the suggestions I made here, I commited in antiX’s git and will probably be adopted in a future antix release. In particular, one tiny annoying feature, make a new task manager window pop up every time the user clicked icewm’s resource monitor square, on the system tray- that simply made the OS look unpolished, will be solved. I know that this also happens with some of the GUI’s I created, but hey… we do have to start somewhere, when we start polishing a jewel, right?
                Some of Fluxbox’s problems, when using the compositor will also be solved, as will, by default allowing the key combination that toggles on/off external screens (a user mentioned to me that IceWM uses the same keys as Windows- something that I did not know, since I’ve not used Windows in a while)
                In the mean time, since I last posted on this thread, I developed Finder, another GUI, that seems will replace Searchmonkey in future releases- as a simple way to find files, folders, applications and even perform web searches (and even find answers to just about anything using an AI- but that features depends on a web service that occasionally fails to work, there’s nothing I can do about that- when it works, it’s usually great, when it doesn’t, it doesn’t)
                My aim was to try to make antiX as easy to use and as feature rich as possible, for basic users, that don’t want to use the terminal or manually edit configuration files, WHILE not “bloating” antiX.
                I can’t see any more big improvements I can suggest to antiX’s UI, but, now and then, I notice a tiny detail that can be easily (or not so easily) polished. It was mentioned before that the GUI script that mounts android devices fails to work on some devices – when I can (not sure when), I’ll try to improve the script (it’s hard, since I can’t test the changes- the script works on all the devices I tested it in).
                Lately I’ve been trying to relax a bit more, not to “burn myself” with this almost insignificant details, when I have really big (real life) problems to deal with…

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                #124568
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                marcelocripe

                  My aim was to try to make antiX as easy to use and as feature rich as possible, for basic users, that don’t want to use the terminal or manually edit configuration files, WHILE not “bloating” antiX.

                  And you did it, you can be sure of that. It’s a good thing that the anticapitalista accepted most of his programs.
                  antiX 23, and probably antiX 23.1, are much easier and more user-friendly than the antiX 19.2 that I discovered when I arrived here on the forum.
                  Before I needed to do a lot of work downloading, converting several “.po” files to “.mo” and copying them to the “pt_BR” translation folder to have antiX translated a little better. In antiX 23 I only need to restore the translations of the “.desktop” files that are lost with program updates.
                  The program that mounts Android devices stopped working on my Moto E phone (XT1022), before I could use the “File Transfer” option, currently I can only access the “Photo Transfer” option (or a text similar to this ) which accesses far fewer files than the other option.
                  Thank you very much PPC.

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                  My aim was to try to make antiX as easy to use and as feature rich as possible, for basic users, that don’t want to use the terminal or manually edit configuration files, WHILE not “bloating” antiX.

                  E vocĂŞ conseguiu, pode ter certeza disso. Ainda bem que o anticapitalista aceitou a maioria dos seus programas.
                  O antiX 23, e provavelmente o antiX 23.1, são muito mais fáceis e amigáveis do que o antiX 19.2 que eu conheci quando eu cheguei aqui no fórum.
                  Antes eu precisava ter muito trabalho baixando, convertendo vários arquivos “.po” para “.mo” e copiá-los para a pasta de tradução “pt_BR” para ter o antiX um pouco mais traduzido. No antiX 23 eu preciso apenas restaurar as traduções do arquivos “.desktop” que sĂŁo perdidos com as atualizações dos programas.
                  O programa que monta os dispositivos Android parou de funcionar no meu telefone Moto E (XT1022), antes eu conseguia utilizar a opção “TransferĂŞncia de arquivos”, atualmente eu sĂł consigo acessar a opção “TransferĂŞncia de fotos” (ou um texto parecido com isso) que acessa bem menos arquivos do que a outra opção.
                  Muito obrigado PPC.

                  #124589
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                  Brian Masinick

                    I’m not sure exactly what we changed between antiX 23 and antiX 23.1, but there must be a few subtle differences because on my HP-14 here, when I’m running antiX 23 I have to be super careful how I stop the system – and I haven’t 100% come across a foolproof method of always closing and CLEANLY shutting down the system. I’ve even taken care to close nearly everything except a terminal, then issued multiple sync operations, waited a bit for them to run, then close the terminal, and finally run the shutdown program. Sometimes it’s enough, sometimes it isn’t, but all of this works better with antiX 23.1; maybe I should check to see if I unintentionally have something incorrect in my login/logout configuration.

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                    #124593
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                    Brian Masinick

                      The “symptom” of incorrect shutdown is that when I boot the next time this instance will frequently say it wasn’t shutdown properly – what?

                      My solution is to close as much as possible, then sync 6-10 times, wait long enough for a write to actually take place, then explicitly halt/poweroff; that at least does it right “occasionally”. This is on my list to figure out what’s different and/or wrong and correct it. It’s also a relatively recent thing; last year and years past I only saw messages in scenarios when I didn’t run a system for a while or if an fsck was needed once a month or so, otherwise all would be correct and “normal”, that is, no messages suggesting an improper shutdown.

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                      #124594
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                      PPC

                        I haven’t 100% come across a foolproof method of always closing and CLEANLY shutting down the system

                        Just in case you haven’t yet done so, that should be reported on the antiX 23.1 thread, so anticapitalista reads it and try to solve that problem (unless you reported that by other means).

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                        #124604
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                        Brian Masinick

                          I haven’t 100% come across a foolproof method of always closing and CLEANLY shutting down the system

                          Just in case you haven’t yet done so, that should be reported on the antiX 23.1 thread, so anticapitalista reads it and try to solve that problem (unless you reported that by other means).

                          P.

                          My only hesitation in doing that is the possibility that I have a configuration issue, which is why I’ve simply commented on it here.

                          My intention – though I’m not 100% sure when I’ll be able to do it, is to compare the slightest differences between the login components in my system and see if it’s something in error on my system. If I see nothing, then perhaps I’ll write more, but I currently have insufficient information and the lack of 100% reproducibility, factors I want to include when I enter a defect report, so you can tell why I’m hesitant to report a defect, which MAY be of my own making.

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                          #124615
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                          Brian Masinick

                            I found one key difference in my IceWM configuration settings; now to test a few times to see if it’s what was making the difference:

                            These lines were missing from my other instance of preferences:

                            #  Confirm logout
                            ConfirmLogout=0 # 0/1

                            Will see how the behavior changes; I do NOT want to confirm logout, and it’s been behaving the way I expect in all aspects when this is present.

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                            #124626
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                            rokytnji

                              I usually add oreo mouse cursors and nu-ice icewm themes on all my installs. Since this is a minor UI thread.

                              https://store.kde.org/p/1360254/

                              https://www.box-look.org/p/1315719

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                              #124629
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                              Brian Masinick

                                Those are nice @rokytnji !

                                I generally like a red mouse cursor because it stands out against my typical environment; both the screens and the backgrounds.
                                When I’m using IceWM I install xcursor-themes, which allows me to select a variety of them; I choose the redglass cursor;
                                not as fancy, but I can get it on all of my Debian-based systems; these days that’s all I’m using.

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                                #136619
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                                PPC

                                  antiX has always been extremely efficient, since I started using it. The main problem was that I could not use the default File Manager, Rox. Then I found out that it also included spacefm (zzzfm “parent”), more in line with what I was used to. There were also other problems with antiX: it was ugly as sin, looked like Windows 98. Worse that it’s looks was that there were not that many GUI’s to perform basic tasks: updating the system, adding a quick-launcher to the toolbar or pin it to the Personal menu, setting time and date, configuring wi-fi… all that had to be done either on the terminal, running cli apps or editing config files. Even the default calendar was a CLI app. CLI apps are great and very light on system resources, I love them… but they are not for mainstream users. Editing config files, even the ones that have extremely easy syntax, is not for the average user. Many users freak out even their Windows updates and an icon changes slightly or is on a slightly different place. Now imagine asking an average user to have the courage to edit a config file (stuff that most people think is what Hackers do- I kid you not, once, a friend of mine told me something like “You know about computers, how can we get money, using computers?” Yeah, sure, “knowing” about computers makes anyone a super hacker, that can crack bank accounts and, without a trace, move a fortune to their personal accounts and live happily ever after. I wish… anticapitalista would be living on his own personal greek island, and I would still be married, seeing my kid every day, and giving her everything she deserves. I can’t even imagine what Dave and Robin’s life would be like… 🙂

                                  To the point- I think that the default antiX GUI looks so cool and modern (and includes IceWM CC that allows to easily change it’s looks) that it does not need much:
                                  – The single UI suggestion I think antiX 23.1 could do with would be an improved version of my Conky manager script – that not only manages the official conky’s position and color but also implements a modern “MX like” Conky, with features like displaying the weather, etc, that users can enable or disable at will.

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